ThurmasThoman Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Someone please help me see the good in this. I thought we should have gotten a TE for Allen but instead draft a 5'7 RB?? Maybe this is just my gut reaction but I cant help but feel disappointed I really want to like this pick. Please help!! Read "Take Your Eye Off the Ball": https://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1629371696/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XREZ8Z5LXMQZ&keywords=take+your+eye+off+the+ball&qid=1556333569&s=books&sprefix=take+your+eye+off%2Caps%2C165&sr=1-1 5 bucks used on amazon. It's a well written, easy to understand explanation of football from someone with an eye (and a knowledge) for the game. It will help you understand the way the game is played, and the way teams are constructed to play. There's nothing you could learn about the player in particular that would change your opinion about it in a meaningful way. But there are things you could learn about why he was drafted, and how he compares in style and skillset to his peers and the running backs on Buffalo's roster that might make you appreciate the pick. Also, any pick viewed in isolation can be dissected and critiqued to the point of it seeming like a "bad" pick, but the reality is--each pick is made in the context of an offensive system or a playbook, a salary cap, new positional coaches, the health of other players, the strength of other positional groups, the long term viability of other positional groups against the cap, etc. Long story short: what the Bills are looking for in an elusive back is a more dire need than what theyre looking for from the tight end position next fall. That may be because Shady's health is worse than we know, or because they plan on using an offense that relies on the tight ends as pass catchers less than we assume (or want). So when people say "trust the process", although it seems like its a meme about clapping and beane and whatever else, really it means trust that the coach, qb and gm are on the same page in building the 2019 buffalo bills--and if you want to know the part the qb plays in the process of building a team--read that book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<bills4life> Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Emmit Smith ran a 4.7 forty. I’m pretty sure he had a decent career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tcali said: jerry rice ran about a 4.6 40....never ever saw him get caught from behind Yet if you watch Singletary's highlights he gets caught from behind every time. He does not pull away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, BillsVet said: You're comparing Bill Belichick's team building record with...Brandon Beane. Besides, this is a massive conflation. Yes. That's exactly what I'm doing. Beane is obviously the second coming of Bill Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: 4.7 actually thank you for the clarification. there is football speed.....adrenaline and focus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills7834 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, 5ths the charm said: Such a great player...no bio or stats That's his NFL stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Don't get me wrong ... I was on the Winovich bandwagon (and hate he's on the Pats now) ... too much lineage to Nicovich (3rd cousins ?) ... but trust Beane and his choices .. OL crappiness aside .. Shady has lost a step .. this kid has 2 steps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, <bills4life> said: Emmit Smith ran a 4.7 forty. I’m pretty sure he had a decent career. Emmitt was never a fast burner back.. He had an outstanding O-line and what made Emmitt great was his longevity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, daz28 said: Yet if you watch Singletary's highlights he gets caught from behind every time. He does not pull away. OK--i will take your word for it...But he gets the job done I assume...getting up to the line quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, <bills4life> said: Emmit Smith ran a 4.7 forty. I’m pretty sure he had a decent career. Different era, no one trained for the combine like they do now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tcali said: jerry rice ran about a 4.6 40....never ever saw him get caught from behind L Bell ain't a burner. The only stock I take in that 40 time if accurate is he won't take it to the house when he really hits his hole. So.. 40 yard gains instead of 70 TD. You still have to have all the other tools to make that break out run to begin with and many don't have it. Makes the 40 time a hill of beans if they can't break runs often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, daz28 said: Yet if you watch Singletary's highlights he gets caught from behind every time. He does not pull away. Thurman didn't exactly pull away every time either. You guys are too hung up on this stuff. The Bills drafted a gamer here. Let's hope it works out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) One thing I will say is that is not 4.66 speed on the film. Edited April 27, 2019 by MrEpsYtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, Herc11 said: Emmitt was never a fast burner back.. He had an outstanding O-line and what made Emmitt great was his longevity. Emmit also extremely strong...and again good football speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, daz28 said: Yet if you watch Singletary's highlights he gets caught from behind every time. He does not pull away. yeah, he's only gonna rip through the line for 10 or 15 yards....sux. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mramefa Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 For everyone thinking that 40 time is a perfect indicator of game speed, just think of Josh Allen. He ran mid 4.7s, and can absolutely take off and outrun players on the other team. His measured top speed in-game was the fastest of any QB over the last several years (outside of Mariota). Running a 40 without the ball and with no padding is a really noisy indicator of what you can do with the ball in a game situation. Singletary is going to surprise people thinking he's slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napmaster Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 This kid has Barry Sanders stop/start skills, and just like Barry will get caught from behind. This Fantasy Football Site couldn't hype him any higher: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 We traded back in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) So anyway, BOTH Butler and Ridley are still available, and we're about to pick again. This could all change in about 5 mins. Edited April 27, 2019 by Nelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I don't recall Gillislee being insanely fast. The man just took advantage of Cog's road grading to break some chunk runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, daz28 said: It's called holes. He isn't going to power his way in. Last years line would have killed this kid. Maybe it says something about McBeanes faith in this line/scheme Weve not been great at offensive talent, which is a worry- but it’s a productive guy widely slated to go where he went and a position of need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: Thurman didn't exactly pull away every time either. You guys are too hung up on this stuff. The Bills drafted a gamer here. Let's hope it works out. I'm not negative on it. Just stating facts. At best it's an interesting pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDVA Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 who cares about a running backs 40 speed? It is about how fast you run and achieve 5 yards. If you average 5 yards over the course of your career, chances are you will be waring a yellow blazer. 2 minutes ago, akcash said: We traded back in! commercial of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: yeah, he's only gonna rip through the line for 10 or 15 yards....sux. No that's fine with me, but it doesn't make for good average. This kid gets caught behind the line if they suck. It really is mini shady w/o the game breakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke of Pants Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Great pick. The kid does nothing but score touchdowns. Got quick feet and good vision. Plus, at 5'7" and 203 pounds, he's a tank. Love this kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, LEBills said: Where'd you see this? Reports I found says he pulled up on his first 40 attempt with a tight hamstring http://fauowlaccess.com/tag/fau-pro-day/ Can't find it now. I may have been on another prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, RunninRebel37 said: What we doin with all these RB's? Somehow one of these guys doesn't make it on the roster. The way I see it, one of the elders wont make it through camp without an injury so lete bring them all to Pittsford. Things will sort out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 And there's your TE, BillsVet! Happy to have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: No that's fine with me, but it doesn't make for good average. This kid gets caught behind the line if they suck. It really is mini shady w/o the game breakers he is a lot stronger than shady...different kinda runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, Herc11 said: I really want to like the guy, but I just don't think he has the speed for his style of running. Check out these highlights against OU. For his style of running, he won't be able to hit the outside runs, NFL LBrs are too fast. Sure he can make some fast cuts, but there is no top gear. I sure as hell hope he proves me wrong. I highly doubt him being drafted means the end of Shady. This is the only team Singletary played agains that is even worth talking about and he got pancaked a lot. He doesn't have the fast burst around the edge that you need in the NFL. Players like Freddy are extremely rare, he didn't have the speed either, but he was a surgeon up the middle and in between the lineman. Devin only had great numbers because he was playing against the likes of Bethune freaking Cookman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Nope. Singletary is a nice complimentary piece though. 4 RBs. None play Special Teams. McCoy the ONLY one with Value. Just watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: L Bell ain't a burner. The only stock I take in that 40 time if accurate is he won't take it to the house when he really hits his hole. So.. 40 yard gains instead of 70 TD. You still have to have all the other tools to make that break out run to begin with and many don't have it. Makes the 40 time a hill of beans if they can't break runs often true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tcali said: Emmit also extremely strong...and again good football speed Emmit ran the ball hard every down- an A+ back he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 His teammate at Florida Atlantic was my super sleeper, Kerrith Whyte Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tcali said: he is a lot stronger than shady...different kinda runner I said he was a gore/shady hybrid. He loves going to the tackler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Shady,Gore,Singleton RB committee...will keep everyone fresh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Tcali said: Shady,Gore,Singleton RB committee...will keep everyone fresh And yeldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: Emmit ran the ball hard every down- an A+ back he was. no doubt...its kinda in vogue for people to talk about his O line to diminish the guy.....and there may be a point to that if people are spewing about him being the best ever or top 5(hes not close) because all the yards he piled up.But he was still a tremendous runner/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, 100DollarBills said: This is the only team Singletary played agains that is even worth talking about and he got pancaked a lot. He doesn't have the fast burst around the edge that you need in the NFL. Players like Freddy are extremely rare, he didn't have the speed either, but he was a surgeon up the middle and in between the lineman. Devin only had great numbers because he was playing against the likes of Bethune freaking Cookman. You don’t think that just maybe Oklahoma’s defensive front seven overwhelmed FAU’s offense? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, daz28 said: I said he was a gore/shady hybrid. He loves going to the tackler. oops sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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