Ittakestime Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Not sure how many people listen to Daniel Jeremiah's podcast, but he dropped the nugget about the Bills "I have heard from a ton of different people, Jonah Williams is someone to watch there." Just thought I would let people know. Here is his last mock of 2018: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000928661/article/jeremiah-mock-draft-40-browns-pick-baker-mayfield-no-1 Had the Bills trading up for Josh Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I really don't like him at 9, however, if Daboll thinks he is the guy, having coached him and seen him first hand, I can't argue with it. If you take him, I think you make the Zach Martin move and plug him at right guard. He's likely an all pro quickly there. I think Williams is the level of guard prospect, but I just don't like it at 9. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 If this happens I wont hate this, but I would prefer a few other guys now at 9.. At least Daboll knows him pretty well so you would think he would have to have a lot of confidence in the pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Dawkins - Spain/Feliciano - Morse - Williams - Nsekhe (possible flip flop the Tackles) with Long backup C/G, Waddle backup T, Feliciano/Spain backup G Waddle also may not be active on game days as Williams kicks out to tackle if either of those guys goes down. Night and Day vs. what we rolled out there a year ago. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Not sure about him at 9 if he projects as a guard. Too rich. For me the only linemen you spend a top 10 pick on is a legit LT - can maybe be talked into a RT, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Yeah i can’t see it. I’m convinced it’s DL or Hock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I’m okay with it as long as Ed Oliver is off the board 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 We may all have guys that we prefer, but I don't see how anyone could be mad at drafting arguably the best tackle in all of college football. His ceiling is "outstanding offensive tackle" and his floor is "Pro Bowl level guard". We could do a lot worse. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 If we move back to the teens I’d be fine with it, but not at 9, not after we’ve already done a ton to improve the line, and certainly not if a game changing prospect is on the board (Oliver/Hock). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, dneveu said: Dawkins - Spain/Feliciano - Morse - Williams - Nsekhe (possible flip flop the Tackles) with Long backup C/G, Waddle backup T, Feliciano/Spain backup G Waddle also may not be active on game days as Williams kicks out to tackle if either of those guys goes down. Night and Day vs. what we rolled out there a year ago. I keep seeing people say this. There are two options for Dawkins: Left Tackle, or Left Guard. He absolutely cannot play on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, TOboy said: If we move back to the teens I’d be fine with it, but not at 9, not after we’ve already done a ton to improve the line, and certainly not if a game changing prospect is on the board (Oliver/Hock). In my opinion, many of the moves on the line this offseason are temporary. We do need to draft along both lines and Williams has been a monster versus top level talent in the SEC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Jonah Williams is the guy I’ve been wanting all along, but with all the free agent signings and the depth of this draft at OT, I’m beginning to think Christian Wilkins at #9. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: I keep seeing people say this. There are two options for Dawkins: Left Tackle, or Left Guard. He absolutely cannot play on the right side. He has spent a little over 1 1/2 of 2 yrs. At Lt..and he has shown there's no way he can play the rt? Did he actually play there in reg games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 WOnt hate it....but I hope it means that they think he can be a ORT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) I’d have to trust that they know what they are doing. Sure, he is a good prospect, but it doesn’t seem like he is a great prospect. The line would project as a good C, an old career backup T and 3 guys who should be G. I should say that in general I am OK with taking a good solid prospect at 9 - doesn’t have to be a swing for the fences guy to make me happy, but I think there have to be equivalent or better prospects available at more important positions than G. I get that he might be capable of playing T, but do you really need two guys (Dawkins and Williams) that likely should be Gs playing OT? Edited April 9, 2019 by OldTimer1960 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 If the Clemson game is any indication, please no. But you can't argue with an oline/dline pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, The Senator said: Jonah Williams is the guy I’ve been wanting all along, but with all the free agent signings and the depth of this draft at OT, I’m beginning to think Christian Wilkins at #9. . Bleh... He's barely makes my top 5 Tackles for this draft... barely. I really hope we don't grab him at 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 As an interior lineman I can dig it completely. The Colts entire offense shifted due to Quenton Nelson. But if you want a tackle, why not take Dillard instead? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 45 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: He has spent a little over 1 1/2 of 2 yrs. At Lt..and he has shown there's no way he can play the rt? Did he actually play there in reg games? He couldn't unseat Mills at RT, and we were all expecting that, and I remember him not being very good at RT because he was more awkward on that side. Maybe I'm blending him at Kuandjio together, though. Maybe Dawkins isn't horrendous on the right side, but he's better on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 jonah or sweat at 9 I would strongly dislike! We could be leaving Oliver, DK, White, Hock on board- all 4 could be perennial all pro's IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Logic said: We may all have guys that we prefer, but I don't see how anyone could be mad at drafting arguably the best tackle in all of college football. His ceiling is "outstanding offensive tackle" and his floor is "Pro Bowl level guard". We could do a lot worse. but the championship game...sarcasm on my part but some did claim here that his value decreased due to the championship game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 If his floor is perrenial all-pro right guard, what’s not to love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 The balance of the off-season, that includes the draft, has to focus on the Bills being able to stop the run. We play against the majority of the premier RB's this year. Stopping the run will go a long way to making 2019 successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Williams was on the DJ's "Moving the sticks" podcast, it sounded like he wouldn't even entertain the idea of moving away from LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: If his floor is perrenial all-pro right guard, what’s not to love? I don't think that anyone really believes that his floor is perennial AP anything. 26 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Williams was on the DJ's "Moving the sticks" podcast, it sounded like he wouldn't even entertain the idea of moving away from LT. The only way he makes sense at 9 is if they see him as a future LT, so maybe there's something to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) Meh. Coaches and front office want things they cannot coach. Like speed, size....... They are confident they can coach the skills. Dont see them taking a technician.... More like Oliver, Metcalf or Taylor... Edited April 9, 2019 by Chris farley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 He kind of looked like an Average Joe in size/physique compared to the other O Linemen at the combine. I don’t expect him to be ripped but I did expect him to be bigger. Doesn’t mean he can’t be good, but he doesn’t really pass the eye test from a standpoint of a guy who looks like he’s gonna dominate NFL D Linemen. But maybe he’s a reverse ‘Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: WOnt hate it....but I hope it means that they think he can be a ORT This. He's not Quinten Nelson. If they don't think he can play tackle, HARD pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, BringBackFlutie said: He couldn't unseat Mills at RT, and we were all expecting that, and I remember him not being very good at RT because he was more awkward on that side. Maybe I'm blending him at Kuandjio together, though. Maybe Dawkins isn't horrendous on the right side, but he's better on the left. Clean slate with Juan gone. Would be nice to hear Dion say he can and will play anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: Clean slate with Juan gone. Would be nice to hear Dion say he can and will play anywhere. I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 hours ago, HansLanda said: Not sure about him at 9 if he projects as a guard. Too rich. For me the only linemen you spend a top 10 pick on is a legit LT - can maybe be talked into a RT, Yeah...Quentin Nelson was a huge reach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Yeah...Quentin Nelson was a huge reach... Not seeing how Williams is gonna be some dominant guard at 6’4” 301 pounds. Nelson was 325 at the combine and put up 35 bench reps compared to Williams’ 23. If he can’t play LT, not sure he projects anywhere else at that size. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Not sure how many people listen to Daniel Jeremiah's podcast, but he dropped the nugget about the Bills "I have heard from a ton of different people, Jonah Williams is someone to watch there." Just thought I would let people know. Here is his last mock of 2018: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000928661/article/jeremiah-mock-draft-40-browns-pick-baker-mayfield-no-1 Had the Bills trading up for Josh Allen Jeremiah 3 days ago 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: Yeah...Quentin Nelson was a huge reach... For every 1 Quentin Nelson, I'll give you 17 Joshua Garnetts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 6 hours ago, BringBackFlutie said: I keep seeing people say this. There are two options for Dawkins: Left Tackle, or Left Guard. He absolutely cannot play on the right side. Neither can Nsekhe if you listen to Skins fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 plz get Hock. I want this offense improved as much as possible. I cant stand to watch a ***** offense anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Personally after the initial free agent rush, I don't like it so much anymore, I'd rather go DT, WR, or TE first. Or trade down and get a OT later in the 1st. But if Jonah is the pick I won't be mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, purple haze said: Neither can Nsekhe if you listen to Skins fans. Well. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, purple haze said: Neither can Nsekhe if you listen to Skins fans. Skins fans are the last ones you should listen to. If there ever was a block o' morons, they qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) I don't believe that they would sign all these Free Agent O-linemen and then still use the 9th pick on a Guard. The question isn't really "How good is this guy?" it's "How much better is he than the guy we have, and how much more of a difference can he make?" I don't think he can make more of a difference than a top prospect D-lineman could for this team. The Bills need help there, and it's the obvious strength of the draft, it seems the most likely, by far. Edited April 10, 2019 by OJ Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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