Ed Oliver to visit Buffalo

[Just Joshin']

At first I did not want him for the Bills. As I learn more, he would be a good pick and now I worry he will be gone at 9.

[BillsFan1988]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

Kyler Murray

Quinnen Williams

Nick Bosa

Josh Allen

Delvin White

are the 5 I am almost certain that go before Oliver.  Hopefully teams panic and trade up for Lock and Haskins.  We need Tampa to select Sweat.  I am doubting Oliver makes it to 9.  Aaron Donald won back to back defensive player of the year awards.  It's hard not to see similarities.  Bills run to podium to select Oliver if he makes it to 9 IMO.

That begs the question- what do Bills do if Oliver and those 5 are not available?  Do we trade down?  Do we select Gary or Wilkins?  Jonah or Jawaan?  DK?  Hock?   And if Lock and Haskins make it to 9-we are in prime spot for QB needy teams(plenty of them) to leap Denver at 10.  So that just might be a nice consolation prize if we do lose out on Oliver

 

Oliver is not there take TJ Hock all day. I dont like Sweat he's to tight in the hips and plays to high to much same can be said about Gary those 2 guys are the most overrated players in this draft. They will be solid NFL players but not the production u want from a top 10 pk. 

 

TJ on the other hand has to me the highest floor and possibly the highest ceiling out of any prospect in this draft. Kid can flat out ball and he loves the game and plays with ton of energy  This type of attitude and passion will be great for the team and can permeate threw the locker room. 

 

If it was up to me I'm taking Oliver or Hock to start this draft. 

[wppete]

4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Ed Oliver has to be the favorite to be picked at 9....provided he is still there

 

I agree. If he is not there we go:

- Rashan Gary 

- Montez Sweat

- Devin White 

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, wppete said:

 

I agree. If he is not there we go:

- Rashan Gary 

- Montez Sweat

- Devin White 

I am a little worried about Montez Sweat

[zevo]

This is the guy I want...going to be very upset if he gets picked before us.

[billspro]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

I am a little worried about Montez Sweat

 

I am not a fan of his style. I would much prefer Burns. I wish Gary had a little more production. I would be very happy with Devin White though. I think he will be even better than Edmunds.

[LSHMEAB]

22 minutes ago, billspro said:

 

I am not a fan of his style. I would much prefer Burns. I wish Gary had a little more production. I would be very happy with Devin White though. I think he will be even better than Edmunds.

I watched every game of Gary's career as a Michigan fan. NO THANK YOU.

 

Oliver would be the ideal choice IF AVAILABLE. I'd prefer Sweat over Gary, but I'm not particularly enthused. The Bills seem to be very high on Christian Wilkins and Taylor and I wouldn't hate either. I'd be good with Burns of Ferrell. All of this assumes that by some force of nature, a guy like Josh Allen doesn't fall into our lap.

 

So Gary is the nightmare pick for me personally. I would also hate to see them reach for J Williams as I think his best NFL position is center or guard.

[PetermansRedemption]

1 hour ago, zevo said:

This is the guy I want...going to be very upset if he gets picked before us.

When* ??

[PIZ]

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

2 visits with the Bills?

 

 

[GimmeSomeProcess]

5 hours ago, Logic said:

We pick 9th.

Kyler Murray
Quinnen Williams
Nick Bosa
Clelin Ferrell
Josh Allen
Dwayne Haskins
Rashan Gary
Brian Burns
TJ Hockenson
Greedy Williams
DK Metcalf
Jonah Willams
Jawaan Taylor

All of the above guys are, depending on who you ask, ranked as high or higher than Ed Oliver in terms of value. SOMEBODY good is bound to slip to the Bills. Given Oliver's less than prototypical size, it's not unreasonable to think it could be him.

Wrong! At least 5 of those guys are not ranked higher. That’s not included TJ and Gary 

[Logic]

1 hour ago, GimmeSomeProcess said:

Wrong! At least 5 of those guys are not ranked higher. That’s not included TJ and Gary 

It's all guess work, man.

None of us -- not analysts, ESPN talking heads, not Kiper, not you, not me -- know how teams actually rank these guys.

C'mon.

[BillsFan1988]

10 hours ago, whorlnut said:

In this scenario, I think the only two players keeping the Bills from trading down are Jawaan Taylor and T.J. Hockenson. The Bills could finish the o-line for years to come with Taylor and give Allen the best protection possible. Hockenson could provide good blocking and pass catching skills as a safety blanket to Allen. Either one would be a huge upgrade and provide us with a potential pro bowler. 

 

I think the Bills have their eyes on Jerry Tillery at 40. Apparently, they have been at a lot of ND games this year and I could see Beane being enamored with Tillery’s size. He loves prototypes. 

 

All that said, I hope we trade down and pick up a second 2 or 3. This would allow us to get another potential starter and give us ammo to move around the board. 

I think u are on to something here is can see any combination of Hock & Tillery or Oliver & a TE either a trade up for Fant or Irv Smith at #40.

[3rdand12]

15 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Minor heart issue. Not in the metaphoric sense.

thanks for clarification and chuckle

[aristocrat]

Two meetings with bills? Seems like it’s getting pretty serious 

[GimmeSomeProcess]

7 hours ago, Logic said:

It's all guess work, man.

None of us -- not analysts, ESPN talking heads, not Kiper, not you, not me -- know how teams actually rank these guys.

C'mon.

You know what, this is a 100% correct. Well played 

[Pbomb]

I think there is a very small chance he gets past the bills at 9, curious to see if they try to trade up to 6 or 7 to make sure they get him

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Top 5 seems pretty set with

 

CARDINALS-KYLER MURRAY
NINERS-NICK BOSA
JETS-JOSH ALLEN
RAIDERS-QUINNEN WILLIAMS
BUCS-DEVIN WHITE

 

It gets murky after that with the Giants, Jaguars and Lions who are most rumored with Jawaan Taylor, Montez Sweat, Rashaan Gary, TJ Hockenson, Ed Oliver, Greedy Williams, Johnah Williams and Ed Oliver
 

[eball]

10 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Top 5 seems pretty set with

 

CARDINALS-KYLER MURRAY
NINERS-NICK BOSA
JETS-JOSH ALLEN
RAIDERS-QUINNEN WILLIAMS
BUCS-DEVIN WHITE

 

It gets murky after that with the Giants, Jaguars and Lions who are most rumored with Jawaan Taylor, Montez Sweat, Rashaan Gary, TJ Hockenson, Ed Oliver, Greedy Williams, Johnah Williams and Ed Oliver
 

 

And Ed Oliver.

[BuffaloHokie13]

10 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Top 5 seems pretty set with

 

CARDINALS-KYLER MURRAY
NINERS-NICK BOSA
JETS-JOSH ALLEN
RAIDERS-QUINNEN WILLIAMS
BUCS-DEVIN WHITE

 

It gets murky after that with the Giants, Jaguars and Lions who are most rumored with Jawaan Taylor, Montez Sweat, Rashaan Gary, TJ Hockenson, Ed Oliver, Greedy Williams, Johnah Williams and Ed Oliver
 

with Ed being available twice I like our odds!

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

with Ed being available twice I like our odds!

 

 

......but he’d only be half the player you were used to seeing in college.  

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Sorry. Like the Bills I have Ed Oliver scheduled for two meetings with us. 

[GunnerBill]

28 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Top 5 seems pretty set with

 

CARDINALS-KYLER MURRAY
NINERS-NICK BOSA
JETS-JOSH ALLEN
RAIDERS-QUINNEN WILLIAMS
BUCS-DEVIN WHITE

 

It gets murky after that with the Giants, Jaguars and Lions who are most rumored with Jawaan Taylor, Montez Sweat, Rashaan Gary, TJ Hockenson, Ed Oliver, Greedy Williams, Johnah Williams and Ed Oliver
 

 

I think 9ers could go Bosa but also could go Williams.

The Jets are Bosa or Allen

The Raiders I think will take Devin White

Whoever is left will go to Tampa.

 

I agree though it is hard after those 5 to predict the order of the next 15 players picked.... Do the Giants go QB? If not where do they go?

[FeelingOnYouboty]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think 9ers could go Bosa but also could go Williams.

The Jets are Bosa or Allen

The Raiders I think will take Devin White

Whoever is left will go to Tampa.

 

I agree though it is hard after those 5 to predict the order of the next 15 players picked.... Do the Giants go QB? If not where do they go?

 

Sounds like the Giants are going QB with their second pick which doesn't make sense LOL!

[YoloinOhio]

2 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Two meetings with bills? Seems like it’s getting pretty serious 

One to see the facility/get his physical and one to look for real estate? 

[TOboy]

19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think 9ers could go Bosa but also could go Williams.

The Jets are Bosa or Allen

The Raiders I think will take Devin White

Whoever is left will go to Tampa.

 

I agree though it is hard after those 5 to predict the order of the next 15 players picked.... Do the Giants go QB? If not where do they go?

 

It's all rumors right now. Even if this is what teams are thinking right now, another team could be aggressive in moving up for a QB (Haskins?) and jump that crowd, throwing everything off. 

 

It's fun to speculate, but we really don't know much until it all unfolds. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Giants are taking Haskins. Its really up to 7 and 8 if we land Oliver. 

[YoloinOhio]

This is Oliver’s pinned tweet from 3 years ago. Speaks McDermott.

 

 

[BuffaloButt]

If Ed Oliver is available when we pick he's a Bill.  To good to pass up for McD.  

[YoloinOhio]

15 hours ago, PIZ said:

 

 

McDermott looks like he wanted to grab him and bring him home

[wppete]

 

[XABI64]

waste of a pick. we do not need to be spending a top 10 pick on a DT

 

DT's are no longer a position of importance in the NFL. We have a rookie QB entering year 2 we need to be spending our capital on helping him develop. Take the top Oline guy or TE in the draft and call it a day. 

 

is Ed Oliver going to help Allen develop into the QB we need him to be? No

[BillsBlue]

On 3/16/2019 at 8:26 PM, wppete said:

 

I like this guy. He has a good story and seems like a McDermott Process guy.

Ed Oliver from Louisiana replaces Kyle Williams from Louisiana.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/03/18/buffalo-bills-mock-draft-ed-oliver-houston-first-round/3202700002/

i can totally dig this we need a pro bowler at dt again its what makes our d work 

[LEBills]

On 3/29/2019 at 8:37 AM, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Top 5 seems pretty set with

 

CARDINALS-KYLER MURRAY
NINERS-NICK BOSA
JETS-JOSH ALLEN
RAIDERS-QUINNEN WILLIAMS
BUCS-DEVIN WHITE

 

It gets murky after that with the Giants, Jaguars and Lions who are most rumored with Jawaan Taylor, Montez Sweat, Rashaan Gary, TJ Hockenson, Ed Oliver, Greedy Williams, Johnah Williams and Ed Oliver
 

A rumor on a website I never heard of before is Atlanta will trade up with Detroit for Ed Oliver and Detroit will drop back for Hockenson

 

https://detroitsportsnation.com/detroit-lions-trade-2019-nfl-draft/ddrysdale/detroit-lions-news/03/28/2019/202370/

 

[OldTimer1960]

On March 28, 2019 at 6:05 PM, Logic said:

I definitely believe that if the right offer comes in, Beane would accept it.

That being said, I DON'T get the impression that they're desperate to trade down. There are lots of potential difference makers at positions of need that could be available at 9 but that they'll miss out on if they trade down too far. Oliver and the two offensive tackles, for instance. 

Personally, I find it more likely that they pick a player at 9 and then use some of their "extra" picks this year to move BACK up into the late 1st or back up into the 2nd to take more premium players. The sheer amount of free agents they've added and the lack of ability to find spots on the roster for 10 more players leads me to believe the Bills will draft no more than 7 players come April. As such, I don't view a trade down from 9 to be as likely as some Bills fans seem to think. Just my opinion.

I'm not against them trading up, but their 2nd and 3rd only gets them into the very back of the 1st and adding both 4ths doesn't move them much further up.

 

i think that they'll sit tight in round 1 and 2 but might try to package both 4ths into another late 3rd or maybe try to trade up to the top of the 4th two grad the best guy remaining on day 4.

[Big Turk]

With that type of speed and explosiveness, why wouldn't teams move him to Edge Rusher?  He is going to have serious problems at 290 lbs in the NFL trying to play inside...being that light, he will make some disruptive plays I'm sure by being quick into the backfield, but he will also get steamrolled as well when teams just decide to run it right at him.

 

EDIT:  Well, I take that back..Aaron Donald is only 284 lbs and JJ Watt is only 289 lbs that doesn't seem to bother them...Watt and Donald have the potential to single handedly destroy your offensive gameplan on their own if you aren't careful(at least before Watt's injury he did) and have won multiple defensiev player of the year awards between them, so I guess the lighter, quicker DT's can be highly effective as long as they have a lot of strength to go with it(especially lower body strength to anchor the point of attack)

Edited March 30, 2019 by matter2003

[Dr. Who]

8 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I'm not against them trading up, but their 2nd and 3rd only gets them into the very back of the 1st and adding both 4ths doesn't move them much further up.

 

i think that they'll sit tight in round 1 and 2 but might try to package both 4ths into another late 3rd or maybe try to trade up to the top of the 4th two grad the best guy remaining on day 4.

I seriously doubt the plan is to make small moves in the middle of the draft. 

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

With that type of speed and explosiveness, why wouldn't teams move him to Edge Rusher?  He is going to have serious problems at 275 lbs in the NFL trying to play inside...

I anticipate he will he moved around, which adds even more value to him. Very difficult to game plan for.  Gary can do the same (though he’s not as good imo)

Edited March 30, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I anticipate he will he moved around, which adds even more value to him. Gary can do the same (though he’s not as good imo)

Makes sense...with that type of quickness off the ball , it would be near impossible for most centers/guards to block him effectively.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

No brainer for Bills if this guy is available. Give Brady something to think about inside!