Aussie Joe Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: If Beane likes him, I love him I agree... If Beane likes him enough to pick him at 9 then everyone should get excited... Just don't whaley it up and trade up for him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315Mafia Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: Curious what people think would happen after we made all the recent moves to upgrade the wide receivers, You take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Trade back. Get Risner and Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: I'd respectfully challenge you on all those points. If you want to argue limited route tree, health, etc., I think you'd have a better argument. Metcalf doesn’t run good routes other than a go. He is pretty special at that route though. Feel free to prove me wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 trade back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 46 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: Curious what people think would happen after we made all the recent moves to upgrade the wide receivers, If he is BPA - you take him, but he will not be BPA at 9 there is almost no way with his production and agility numbers. If he is BPA when we are picking it means we probably moved back in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: Curious what people think would happen after we made all the recent moves to upgrade the wide receivers, You draft him, unless you rob another club and trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 If he's the BPA on the Bills board at #9, their scouts need to be fired, because it means they got enamored by his combine stuff instead of watching him on film. If he's picked before #9 I'll cheer because it will mean the Bills can't take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 BPA is in the eye of the beholder. If Oliver, Jonah and DK are all sitting there @9, who is really the BPA. And what analytics guarantees that selection. You have to factor some need into your decision. What if Kyler Murray drops to 9? And the "Big Board" says he's BPA. Do you run out and draft him? Of course not! BPA is subjective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said: He would be a nice security blanket for Josh, just don't know if he'll be the best talent on the board at 9. He's not in the top 9 so he won't be BPA at pick 9. Frankenstein runs better agility drills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, billspro said: Metcalf doesn’t run good routes other than a go. He is pretty special at that route though. Feel free to prove me wrong though. Google Ole Miss OC and/or offense. You'll see why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said: i agree i don't even think hes the best WR of the class. I may be in the minority but hes got bust written all over him He wasn't even the best WR on Ole Miss. All the physical skills, but his mental lapses led to drops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: Google Ole Miss OC and/or offense. You'll see why... I don’t think he is a bad prospect. I have said before that he has Randy Moss potential. I do think he is one dimensional though. Also, his three cone time confirmed most of the concerns about his change of direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Taking a guy like Metcalf at #9 is exactly what old Bills regimes would've done. We are not that organization anymore. I really don't think any team aside from maybe the Raiders values him in the top half of the first round. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 He won't be. Being able to change direction is very important for a WR. He's not a top 10 player in this draft, therefore he can't be BPA at #9. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 None of this amounts to a hill of beans. The only thing that matters is who is BPA in the eyes of McBeane.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I don't think he will be dude. I wouldn't take him much earlier than 20. He's a gigantic reach to me at 9 at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Metcalf wont be BPA until the early to mid 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Doesn’t matter what they do. This Board will be: https://giphy.com/gifs/shocked-seinfeld-kramer-QMcamps7Gzj2g 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Then he’s BPA. It will be a mistake, but if that’s how the Bills FO sees it, nothing we can do about it. They’ll be hoping that his physical traits will payoff down the line combined with their ability to coach him into being a weapon at the WR position. Because as far as that goes, his Ole Miss teammate AJ Brown is the far superior player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 It’ll be FREAK OUT TIME on TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, billykay said: There is no way , imo, that Metcalf will be the BPA at #9. He would be a reach at #9. He's the perfect candidate for a team in the 20-32 range. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Not unless we trade back. I want a dominating DT to replace Kyle. Also, no to Ziggy. He's WAY overrated by many posters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 If they take Metcalf at 9 then I would see that as a problem with their evaluation system, not their draft philosophy. I have no problem with Beane taking BPA every time, all the time. i can’t fathom how anyone would arrive at Metcalf being 9th on their overall board though. The guy ran 2 routes in college, basically. There’s something to be said about raw talent/athleticism, which he certainly has, but a top 10 collegiate player? Those guys should have at least some level of polish to their game as well. DK seems lacking there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, 947 said: Taking a guy like Metcalf at #9 is exactly what old Bills regimes would've done. We are not that organization anymore. I really don't think any team aside from maybe the Raiders values him in the top half of the first round. I hope you're right, but Beane traded up twice in the 1st for a QB with "scattershot accuracy" and a 257 lb MLB that hits like a creampie and is usually a day late and a dollar short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, GreggTX said: Not unless we trade back. I want a dominating DT to replace Kyle. Also, no to Ziggy. He's WAY overrated by many posters here. Gotta agree. Going by what they've done so far I see Oliver at 9, a trade up for Hock, Smith or Fant and then best WR or OL after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Yav said: What if he could catch the ball? What if he could run more than 2 routes? What if he wasn’t a sophomore? What if he was the best WR on Ol Miss? Sorry just dont don’t see what the hype is all about. Even Stevie and Ray can see this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, the skycap said: Even Stevie and Ray can see this Ok, I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: He's not in the top 9 so he won't be BPA at pick 9. Frankenstein runs better agility drills. But Frankenstein can't go deep. Actually, I think the Bills have done a solid job setting themselves up to take the BPA.... Metcalf probably is not BPA at #9 ... What if Haskins or the Okie QB is BPA @9 and you can't trade back, do you go QB in back to back drafts ? Give me a guy in the gutter ... OT Taylor or DT Oliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I don’t think any of the WR’s in this draft are 1st rd talents. Plus you add in how stong the defensive players are in this draft and the two very good LT’s and I would be blown away if we drafted a WR at 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: But Frankenstein can't go deep. Actually, I think the Bills have done a solid job setting themselves up to take the BPA.... Metcalf probably is not BPA at #9 ... What if Haskins or the Okie QB is BPA @9 and you can't trade back, do you go QB in back to back drafts ? Give me a guy in the gutter ... OT Taylor or DT Oliver. ...his name is becoming more prevalent in recent mocks for Bflo........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: He's not in the top 9 so he won't be BPA at pick 9. Frankenstein runs better agility drills. I won't be surprised if he trims some time off the low numbers at his pro day. Looks like he had a little trouble with his footing at the combine. With the size/speed combo someone will take a chance on him. I would not mind putting him in there with brown and beasley, would could cover the entire field in half the time it would have taken our top three wr's last year. I have a funny feeling Zay is going to look really slow in the preseason games if DK is brought in. Edited March 13, 2019 by 4BillsintheBurgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I'd have him off my board...any dude with that horrible flexibility that he runs in the 2nd and 3rd percentile in 3 cone and short shuttle will have a very short and injury plagued career before he ends up out of the league due to them....dude will be David Boston and be done within 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 If he is bpa by the bills board. You draft him. Simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I'd have him off my board...any dude with that horrible flexibility that he runs in the 2nd and 3rd percentile in 3 cone and short shuttle will have a very short and injury plagued career before he ends up out of the league due to them....dude will be David Boston and be done within 5 years. When is his pro day? Maybe he really did slip in one or both agaility drills? Still, I tend to agree, a WR needs better agility than that, not just straight line speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 The speed at receiver is gonna keep those safeties out of the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 What if BPA available at 9 is a QB, do you take him too? When was the last time you've heard a team come out after the draft and state, "We didn't get the guy we really wanted, but wer'e happy with who we got instead" Instead all you ever hear is "he's the guy we wanted all along!" Likely the difference in grading between the 9th best and maybe the 15th best is so slight, one scout just grading ever so slightly different could probably bump a guy from 15 to 10 in the blink of an eye. Do teams even truly have a definitive order or do they group players together, these are our top 5, then the next five, and so on. But you'll here he was the BPA whomever it is. When you get below the 4th round or so, then BPA is more important as at that point, very little idea anymore if the person will even still be in the league in 3 years. In the 1st couple of rounds you want someone who'll work out for the team, and also be able to become a major contributor early on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) BPA at 9? Metcalf isn't even the best reciever from his school in this draft. Metcalf is the Mike Mamula of receivers. Edited March 14, 2019 by mob16151 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Augie said: When is his pro day? Maybe he really did slip in one or both agaility drills? Still, I tend to agree, a WR needs better agility than that, not just straight line speed. You can look at the video yourself, just go under his results and there is the playlist of video's. While he could be a look like tarzan play like jane guy, considering the chances we took last year on physical specimens I won't be surprised if he's the guy. I'm going to say if he trains for the drill a little more he will also take the time down. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/d.k.-metcalf?id=32194d45-5436-3377-5806-d2746f1b94aa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said: You can look at the video yourself, just go under his results and there is the playlist of video's. While he could be a look like tarzan play like jane guy, considering the chances we took last year on physical specimens I won't be surprised if he's the guy. I'm going to say if he trains for the drill a little more he will also take the time down. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/d.k.-metcalf?id=32194d45-5436-3377-5806-d2746f1b94aa First round last year was certainly about athletes with high ceilings. Small sample size, but maybe telling. What would you give for a look at their draft board??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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