YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: He would really help on 1st and 2nd downs. Could also be an option to free Zo up to rush the passer more, which frees Lawson up to kick inside more. Hoping Milano is good to go, but would be nice insurance policy fir that as well. At 36, he may be looking for a familiar system and coach to play for. Where else would he rather be? I think that would be a huge factor - imo. He would want to be productive, not just a guy, and that’s his best chance. He could add value in a leadership role as well given the departure of Kyle, something he seems to enjoy. But we don’t really know what he’s looking for, that’s just my assumption. Edited January 10, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I think we do it .. we're not paying for production in my mind .. look what happened to Josh .. when we surrounded him with same position vets (DA & Barkley) in the QB room .. now we need to do the same for our stud(s) on the defense Edmunds/ and even Milano .. Edmunds especially needs same position mentoring and TD is perfect for that role .. .. Also, think it will help with continuity with Star and his role to free up Edmunds and attack angles. Those that are indicating playing time for younger players .. we have to remember the 1st round investment in Edmunds .. like Josh .. and surround them with people for those times off the field in the film room so that things click when on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Given his resume, age and production last season I have to think he’s chasing a ring. Be the perfect way to go out for him. I don’t think he’ll be chasing the best money available. With that said obviously he’s a perfect fit for this team and I am 100% sure they’ll kick the tires and gauge his interest and bring him in if he’s willing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I'd take him on a 1-year deal if the money was right, and I think he probably has 2-3 years in him... dude can still play, and you KNOW he and McDermott are close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Hello classic McDermott overspend on a FA, this written in the stars long ago. And im alright with it. Seems like a smart vet built for this defense where he's going to mentor the young guys. Gotta spend it somewhere, do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 I wonder how close he is with Star? That might be a factor too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) I'd absolutely bring him in. Tremaine Edmunds is still 20 and needs some smart vets around him. Remember our preseason game v the Panthers and Thomas Davis and Luke Kuechly surrounding McDermott and being in awe of Tremaine's size. Edited January 10, 2019 by FeelingOnYouboty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 This move makes too much sense. Not only would he very likely still be a producer on the field but the leadership and more importantly the intangibles of giving insight, how he prepares for each game would be invaluable for both Milano and Edmunds. Bring him in PLEASE!!!!! I BEG OF YOU!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) The guy is ancient by NFL standards and tore up the same knee 3 times, fresh off a PED suspension last season. Davis has always been one of my favorites but it’s time to hang them up. Lots of people want him around to teach Edmunds/Milano, if he is a good teacher bring him in as a coach. I’d be surprised if he makes it through a camp/preseason. Edited January 10, 2019 by CommonCents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Could also depend on where Wilks will land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Imo, it depends on what the FO is thinking re: von Miller. If they feel they can get a reasonable trade done, and Elway doesn't block it, it will be a better choice. But if Miller is out of bounds, I would like to have Davis on a 1-2 year deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 WP man of the year. Grizzled Vet. Old. Carolina. May as well print his Bills Jersey now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 39 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Imo, it depends on what the FO is thinking re: von Miller. If they feel they can get a reasonable trade done, and Elway doesn't block it, it will be a better choice. But if Miller is out of bounds, I would like to have Davis on a 1-2 year deal von miller??? where is this coming from? just hopes or dreams or has there been speculation? first I am hearing of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 GIT 'R' DUN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I would love this and I bet it gets done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) It's pretty much a no brainer. 1. Familiar coach 2. Familiar scheme 3. Familiar teammate 4. Fairly solid player 5. Experience and mentoring 6. Chances are McBeane will over pay like they did Star. Unless he gets a ridiculous offer from a contender I don't see how he's not a Bill next season. Edited January 10, 2019 by billsbackto81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: 1 year deal to mentor the young LBs? You know McD loves him. Anything left? So I got no info on the key questions - whether he's got anything left and whether he would be a good mentor. But at some point, a HC desire to bring in guys he's got a previous connection to is counterproductive. We saw this with Rex where it sometimes seemed he was trying to turn the Bills into NYJ West. We may have seen this with Beane overpaying for familiar faces such as Star Lotuleilei and Kelvin Benjamin. We may have seen it with Castillo bringing in Ducasse and sticking with him above OLmen who seemed to be better athletes/more able to react quickly just not as skilled at Castillo's preferred techniques. I'm not saying they shouldn't sign him, just questioning would he really be the best FA LB available or would it be the case that he got the job because "he knows someone"? McDermott has been here two years. Shouldn't he be beyond the point where he needs someone familiar to him to mentor his current team? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: von miller??? where is this coming from? just hopes or dreams or has there been speculation? first I am hearing of it There have been rumors over the past few days that he may be available. Don't have links handy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Worst Superbowl performance ever by a linebacker with a broken arm smh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I don't know much about Davis other than he was once a very good LB. Based on what I have seen in this thread from others who have seen him play recently, I think he'd be a good short-term signing. Likely many teams will be interested and the connections to McDermott and Beane should give the Bills an edge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Wish he was younger, for sure but he's been a yuge part of keuchlys success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I would be shocked if the Bills didn't sign Davis. He most likely play for a cheap deal, and his leadership and work ethic alone would be worth having him in the defensive room. Plus, he's an upgrade from some of the backups we have at LB. He is a guy that McD and Beane know and trust. After losing Kyle Williams, bringing in Davis makes total sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, dezertbill said: I would be shocked if the Bills didn't sign Davis. He most likely play for a cheap deal, and his leadership and work ethic alone would be worth having him in the defensive room. Plus, he's an upgrade from some of the backups we have at LB. He is a guy that McD and Beane know and trust. After losing Kyle Williams, bringing in Davis makes total sense. Can he play Special Teams well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsVet Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 McDermott signing Davis is almost the same thing as Gregggg pushing for Eddie Robinson in 2002. Now, if only Chad Pennington could make a comeback and juke Davis out of his cleats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: Imo, it depends on what the FO is thinking re: von Miller. If they feel they can get a reasonable trade done, and Elway doesn't block it, it will be a better choice. But if Miller is out of bounds, I would like to have Davis on a 1-2 year deal why not both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Joe Marino on the Locked on Bills podcast today made a good case for signing Davis. He isn't the same player as Lorenzo Alexander. Zo plays more in pass rush situations, whereas Davis is better in coverage situations. He's apparently one of the hardest workers in the league so he brings that leadership quality to a young LB core. And if you put stock in PFF they graded him better in 2018 than in 2017 or 2016 so he isn't necessarily declining. I'm convinced this would be a really good signing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) On 1/9/2019 at 6:51 PM, YoloinOhio said: Could be depth too. Would be better than Julian Stanford/Corey Thompson Instantly - it didn't make or break anything but we clearly were hurting when Milano went down, and even when Tre went through the protocol you could see a difference. Until Tre can develop more, if either he or Milano goes down our lack of support there gets exposed. On 1/9/2019 at 6:56 PM, JoeF said: He is still a high-level player. I know its hard to believe at 36 but he can still cover TEs and most running backs and is aces against the run. I have watched him the last 5 years (live in NC) and have been waiting for a drop off-- there has been none. I offer him 2 years at $6 million ($2.5 million SB and base salaries of $1.75 million per year) and make the same offer to Lorax. Get both and let them share the position. This is one ex-Panther I really hope we get... Good against the run you say? Well, if there's one thing we weren't good at this year it's that - especially at the LB level until Edmunds develops that part of his game, and maybe Davis could mentor him in that regard. Who knows, a 1 or 2 year deal, by the time that's over Edmunds should at least be starting to flash his prime self. Edited January 11, 2019 by ctk232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 On 1/10/2019 at 6:40 AM, CommonCents said: The guy is ancient by NFL standards and tore up the same knee 3 times, fresh off a PED suspension last season. Davis has always been one of my favorites but it’s time to hang them up. Lots of people want him around to teach Edmunds/Milano, if he is a good teacher bring him in as a coach. I’d be surprised if he makes it through a camp/preseason. He will be a depth signing for 1 year. If they don't sign Davis OBD needs to find someone similar to sign. If he got hurt before the season they put him on IR and still get his mentoring. I don't see any real risk. Puts off drafting a LB until next year. Davis has seen and done everything as an NFL LB, if he's got one year left it would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: He will be a depth signing for 1 year. If they don't sign Davis OBD needs to find someone similar to sign. If he got hurt before the season they put him on IR and still get his mentoring. I don't see any real risk. Puts off drafting a LB until next year. Davis has seen and done everything as an NFL LB, if he's got one year left it would be great. One year left....isn’t that same mindset they are lending towards Lorax? There is risk, using multiple roster spots on old guys jeopardizes the depth and puts you in a tough spot next year come draft/FA. It reminds me of Patriot fans getting excited over the corpse of David Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, CommonCents said: One year left....isn’t that same mindset they are lending towards Lorax? There is risk, using multiple roster spots on old guys jeopardizes the depth and puts you in a tough spot next year come draft/FA. It reminds me of Patriot fans getting excited over the corpse of David Harris. Even though I do believe he would contribute and have a positive impact on the field, I believe his off-the-field work habit, how he prepares for the game and his familiarity with what McD is truly wanting from an ex ALL PRO like Davis would pay immeasurable dividends for the young guys like Milano and Edmunds. He'll find a way to get on the field in coverage situations plus as we all know injuries are bound to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, CommonCents said: One year left....isn’t that same mindset they are lending towards Lorax? There is risk, using multiple roster spots on old guys jeopardizes the depth and puts you in a tough spot next year come draft/FA. It reminds me of Patriot fans getting excited over the corpse of David Harris. I hear you but I already said if they have a better option in FA this year they should do it. Do you got someone in mind they should target? The cap space for Davis and Lorax ( if he does sign) in 2020 will get them enough to pursue a decent vet. As to this years draft, with all the other needs the best they probably should do drafting a LB would be one of the 5th's or a 6th. After using a lot of capital this year on the offense, Beane can use a higher pick LB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I hear you but I already said if they have a better option in FA this year they should do it. Do you got someone in mind they should target? The cap space for Davis and Lorax ( if he does sign) in 2020 will get them enough to pursue a decent vet. As to this years draft, with all the other needs the best they probably should do drafting a LB would be one of the 5th's or a 6th. After using a lot of capital this year on the offense, Beane can use a higher pick LB next year. Beane says he is going BPA in the draft, with 10? picks (IIRC) they will end up with a LB at some point. I’d rather not keep around two guys at that stage of their career who would basically both have the same role. Mentor/part time player. Jordan Hicks would be a high risk high reward signing, if could stay healthy he would improve an already solid coverage unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Beane says he is going BPA in the draft, with 10? picks (IIRC) they will end up with a LB at some point. I’d rather not keep around two guys at that stage of their career who would basically both have the same role. Mentor/part time player. Jordan Hicks would be a high risk high reward signing, if could stay healthy he would improve an already solid coverage unit. You picked a guy I think OBD should be looking at too. I'm interested how much Hicks will want in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Would play a lot here even with Alexander. Alexander didn't really play much this year. We have zero LB depth. Wouldn't mind giving Milano a break and he has got injured both years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Please don't. He's 35. His athleticism has hit the bricks. He'd be a good leader for the defense but he's just too old, so is LORAX. We only need one of them for veteran leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 might as well set up his Bills locker right now 100% he will be here as the "Kyle replacement" on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: Please don't. He's 35. His athleticism has hit the bricks. He'd be a good leader for the defense but he's just too old, so is LORAX. We only need one of them for veteran leadership. He still looked pretty good to me in 2018. You could do a lot worse for a veteran depth guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 On 1/10/2019 at 10:42 AM, Boyst62 said: Wish he was younger, for sure but he's been a yuge part of keuchlys success. So what's your take? Tiger in the Tank still, or "Carolina North" nepotism signing if they take him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So what's your take? Tiger in the Tank still, or "Carolina North" nepotism signing if they take him? He's a smart player and that makes a big difference. It'd be akin to signing Nick Barnett with what's left. His playing ability is skillful and it's like having a free safety covering your mistakes in the middle of the field who plays limebacker if that makes sense. Didn't see much this season to see if he lost a step but last season he did not. He can cover Gronk when he's on point. I'd love to get him and meant nothing negative by the Barnett equation. Barnett shouldn't have been starting the full tenure of his buffalo years. Davis may be better, he's definitely above the quality we brought in with Morrison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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