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Thomas Davis won’t be back with Panthers, wants to keep playing

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Imo, it depends on what the FO is thinking re: von Miller. If they feel they can get a reasonable trade done, and Elway doesn't block it, it will be a better choice. But if Miller is out of bounds, I would like to have Davis on a 1-2 year deal

 

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39 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Imo, it depends on what the FO is thinking re: von Miller. If they feel they can get a reasonable trade done, and Elway doesn't block it, it will be a better choice. But if Miller is out of bounds, I would like to have Davis on a 1-2 year deal

 

 

von miller??? where is this coming from? just hopes or dreams or has there been speculation? first I am hearing of it 

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It's pretty much a no brainer.

1. Familiar coach

2. Familiar scheme

3. Familiar teammate

4. Fairly solid player

5. Experience and mentoring

6. Chances are McBeane will over pay like         they did Star.

Unless he gets a ridiculous offer from a contender I don't see how he's not a Bill next season.

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12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

1 year deal to mentor the young LBs? You know McD loves him. Anything left?

 

 

So I got no info on the key questions - whether he's got anything left and whether he would be a good mentor.

 

But at some point, a HC desire to bring in guys he's got a previous connection to is counterproductive.  We saw this with Rex where it sometimes seemed he was trying to turn the Bills into NYJ West.  We may have seen this with Beane overpaying for familiar faces such as Star Lotuleilei and Kelvin Benjamin.

We may have seen it with Castillo bringing in Ducasse and sticking with him above OLmen who seemed to be better athletes/more able to react quickly just not as skilled at Castillo's preferred techniques.

 

I'm not saying they shouldn't sign him, just questioning would he really be the best FA LB available or would it be the case that he got the job because "he knows someone"?  McDermott has been here two years.  Shouldn't he be beyond the point where he needs someone familiar to him to mentor his current team?

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58 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

von miller??? where is this coming from? just hopes or dreams or has there been speculation? first I am hearing of it 

There have been rumors over the past few days that he may be available. Don't have links handy. 

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I don't know much about Davis other than he was once a very good LB.  Based on what I have seen in this thread from others who have seen him play recently, I think he'd be a good short-term signing.  Likely many teams will be interested and the connections to McDermott and Beane should give the Bills an edge.

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Wish he was younger, for sure but he's been a yuge part of keuchlys success. 

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I would be shocked if the Bills didn't sign Davis.  He most likely play for a cheap deal, and his leadership and work ethic alone would be worth having him in the defensive room.

 

Plus, he's an upgrade from some of the backups we have at LB.  He is a guy that McD and Beane know and trust.  After losing Kyle Williams, bringing in Davis makes total sense.

 

 

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2 hours ago, dezertbill said:

I would be shocked if the Bills didn't sign Davis.  He most likely play for a cheap deal, and his leadership and work ethic alone would be worth having him in the defensive room.

 

Plus, he's an upgrade from some of the backups we have at LB.  He is a guy that McD and Beane know and trust.  After losing Kyle Williams, bringing in Davis makes total sense.

 

 

Can he play Special Teams well?

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McDermott signing Davis is almost the same thing as Gregggg pushing for Eddie Robinson in 2002. 

 

Now, if only Chad Pennington could make a comeback and juke Davis out of his cleats. 

 

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12 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Imo, it depends on what the FO is thinking re: von Miller. If they feel they can get a reasonable trade done, and Elway doesn't block it, it will be a better choice. But if Miller is out of bounds, I would like to have Davis on a 1-2 year deal

 

why not both?

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Joe Marino on the Locked on Bills podcast today made a good case for signing Davis. He isn't the same player as Lorenzo Alexander. Zo plays more in pass rush situations, whereas Davis is better in coverage situations. He's apparently one of the hardest workers in the league so he brings that leadership quality to a young LB core. And if you put stock in PFF they graded him better in 2018 than in 2017 or 2016 so he isn't necessarily declining. I'm convinced this would be a really good signing.

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On 1/9/2019 at 6:51 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Could be depth too. Would be better than Julian Stanford/Corey Thompson 

Instantly - it didn't make or break anything but we clearly were hurting when Milano went down, and even when Tre went through the protocol you could see a difference. Until Tre can develop more, if either he or Milano goes down our lack of support there gets exposed.

 

On 1/9/2019 at 6:56 PM, JoeF said:

He is still a high-level player.  I know its hard to believe at 36 but he can still cover TEs and most running backs and is aces against the run.  I have watched him the last 5 years (live in NC) and have been waiting for a drop off-- there has been none.  I offer him 2 years at $6 million ($2.5 million SB and base salaries of $1.75 million per year) and make the same offer to Lorax.  Get both and let them share the position.

 

This is one ex-Panther I really hope we get...

Good against the run you say? Well, if there's one thing we weren't good at this year it's that - especially at the LB level until Edmunds develops that part of his game, and maybe Davis could mentor him in that regard. Who knows, a 1 or 2 year deal, by the time that's over Edmunds should at least be starting to flash his prime self.

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On ‎1‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 6:40 AM, CommonCents said:

The guy is ancient by NFL standards and tore up the same knee 3 times, fresh off a PED suspension last season. 

 

Davis has always been one of my favorites but it’s time to hang them up. Lots of people want him around to teach Edmunds/Milano, if he is a good teacher bring him in as a coach.

 

I’d be surprised if he makes it through a camp/preseason. 

 

He will be a depth signing for 1 year.  If they don't sign Davis OBD needs to find someone similar to sign.

If he got hurt before the season they put him on IR and still get his mentoring.

I don't see any real risk.  Puts off drafting a LB until next year.

Davis has seen and done everything as an NFL LB, if he's got one year left it would be great.

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1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

He will be a depth signing for 1 year.  If they don't sign Davis OBD needs to find someone similar to sign.

If he got hurt before the season they put him on IR and still get his mentoring.

I don't see any real risk.  Puts off drafting a LB until next year.

Davis has seen and done everything as an NFL LB, if he's got one year left it would be great.

One year left....isn’t that same mindset they are lending towards Lorax? There is risk, using multiple roster spots on old guys jeopardizes the depth and puts you in a tough spot next year come draft/FA. It reminds me of Patriot fans getting excited over the corpse of David Harris. 

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2 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

One year left....isn’t that same mindset they are lending towards Lorax? There is risk, using multiple roster spots on old guys jeopardizes the depth and puts you in a tough spot next year come draft/FA. It reminds me of Patriot fans getting excited over the corpse of David Harris. 

Even though I do believe he would contribute and have a positive impact on the field, I believe his off-the-field work habit, how he prepares for the game and his familiarity with what McD is truly wanting from an ex ALL PRO like Davis would pay immeasurable dividends for the young guys like Milano and Edmunds.   

 

He'll find a way to get on the field in coverage situations plus as we all know injuries are bound to happen.

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9 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

One year left....isn’t that same mindset they are lending towards Lorax? There is risk, using multiple roster spots on old guys jeopardizes the depth and puts you in a tough spot next year come draft/FA. It reminds me of Patriot fans getting excited over the corpse of David Harris. 

 

I hear you but I already said if they have a better option in FA this year they should do it.

Do you got someone in mind they should target?

The cap space for Davis and Lorax ( if he does sign) in 2020 will get them enough to pursue a decent vet.

 

As to this years draft, with all the other needs the best they probably should do drafting a LB would be one of the 5th's or a 6th.

After using a lot of capital this year on the offense, Beane can use a higher pick LB next year.

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4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I hear you but I already said if they have a better option in FA this year they should do it.

Do you got someone in mind they should target?

The cap space for Davis and Lorax ( if he does sign) in 2020 will get them enough to pursue a decent vet.

 

As to this years draft, with all the other needs the best they probably should do drafting a LB would be one of the 5th's or a 6th.

After using a lot of capital this year on the offense, Beane can use a higher pick LB next year.

Beane says he is going BPA in the draft, with 10? picks (IIRC) they will end up with a LB at some point. I’d rather not keep around two guys at that stage of their career who would basically both have the same role. Mentor/part time player. 

 

Jordan Hicks would be a high risk high reward signing, if could stay healthy he would improve an already solid coverage unit.

 

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12 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

Beane says he is going BPA in the draft, with 10? picks (IIRC) they will end up with a LB at some point. I’d rather not keep around two guys at that stage of their career who would basically both have the same role. Mentor/part time player. 

 

Jordan Hicks would be a high risk high reward signing, if could stay healthy he would improve an already solid coverage unit.

 

 

You picked a guy I think OBD should be looking at too.

I'm interested how much Hicks will want in FA.

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Would play a lot here even with Alexander.  Alexander didn't really play much this year.

 

We have zero LB depth.  Wouldn't mind giving Milano a break and he has got injured both years.

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