HappyDays Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 36 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The head to head was 3-1 McD Gase ends his Dolphins career with a better win percentage against Bill Belichick than against Sean McDermott. Pretty weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Gase ends his Dolphins career with a better win percentage against Bill Belichick than against Sean McDermott. Pretty weird. Pats for some reason fall asleep when they go to Miami. I want to say that even started before Gase got there, as I recall. Could be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billvernsays Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I’m glad it wasn’t Rhule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Kind of pissed Gase gets a.chance with a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Gase will keep the Jets competitive. Does he get to pick his own assistants? Rhule was told he would not so that was a deal breaker Edited January 10, 2019 by stuvian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 The Jets will play hard for at least two games next season (against the Dolphins). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Gase's weakness is leadership. Combine the attitudes of some of the guys on his D, the NYC media and Gase and the next 2 years should be fun to watch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Wow. Idt Gase is a bad coach tbh. But happy they didn’t get McCarthy. The Bills dodged a huge bullet by Gase getting the job over McCarthy. In 2 years the afce will be ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: 15-17 Overall Record 4-8 in AFC East 1 Playoff Appearnce and 0-1 in Playoffs Whoops that is Coach McDermotts Record. actually in Miami Gase through two seasons was 16-16 Overall Record 6-6 in AFC East 1 Playoff Appearnce and 0-1 in Playoffs Just two sides of the same coin. And Gase is 3-3 against the Bills in his short HC career. Look, I'm not saying he's great. But if McDermott had been fired and, say, the Broncos had come calling, Denver fans would be saying exactly the same things about McDermott that we're saying about Gase. Example: - took a team on track to make the playoffs and inexplicably installed Nate Peterman as starter, only to do a 180 when he lost the locker room - had a player actually RETIRE on him at halftime of a game - once again bet on Peterman and went into a season with no veteran QB, forcing the GM to sign two guys off the street to start a game I'm also not saying McDermott is trash. In fact, I think both are decent but still unproven head coaches. Eye of the beholder ... Edited January 10, 2019 by The Frankish Reich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: I dont think its as good as you think. Gase is not as bad of a coach as you think. We were looking at a QB bust for NY and now he may get rescued. Jets fans ate idiots as are Dolphins fans and the majority of Pats fans. Being good at offense or developing QB's, which in Gase's case, is debatable, does not make him a good head coach. HC is about the entire team, strategy and operations as well as culture of the team and organization. How did Gase do with all of that in Miami? Not so hot from what I saw; which is why he was available. Edited January 10, 2019 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, purple haze said: Being good at offense or developing QB, which in Gase's case, is debatable, does not make him a good head coach. HC is about the entire team, strategy and operations as well as culture of the team and organization. How did shade do with all of that in Miami? Not so hot from what I saw. Does the name "Nathan Peterman" ring a bell? How about "Vontae Davis?" In what way has Gase shown himself to be a poorer leader of men than McD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Does the name "Nathan Peterman" ring a bell? How about "Vontae Davis?" In what way has Gase shown himself to be a poorer leader of men than McD? His boss fired him. Extrapolate from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Does the name "Nathan Peterman" ring a bell? How about "Vontae Davis?" In what way has Gase shown himself to be a poorer leader of men than McD? neither team had anything to play for on December 30. We won 42-17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: neither team had anything to play for on December 30. We won 42-17. So ... when two relatively equally matched teams play a meaningless end of season game, the winner of that game clearly has the better coach? But what about "the team with nothing to play for almost beat you while playing some guy named David Fales at QB in a game you needed to win to make the playoffs the year before" rule? How does that fit into your simplistic theory of Motivational Speaker Guy Coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thurman#1 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, whatdrought said: https://mobile.twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1083167880982786048 Ill remember this next December, Manish. Here's the final sentence on Manish's story: "Time will reveal whether they were right this time, but it sure looks and feels like they nailed it with Gase. " Gase and McCarthy both looked like they would at least maximize Darnold. I'd have picked McCarthy if I were the GM. Manish's comment was pretty reasonable, IMHO. I think Gase's got a decent chance. It always seemed to me that it was Miami and Tannehill holding Gase back rather than the reverse. Time will tell. Hope I'm wrong, as a Jets team mired in failure is always an entertaining spectacle. Edited January 10, 2019 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: So ... when two relatively equally matched teams play a meaningless end of season game, the winner of that game clearly has the better coach? But what about "the team with nothing to play for almost beat you while playing some guy named David Fales at QB in a game you needed to win to make the playoffs the year before" rule? How does that fit into your simplistic theory of Motivational Speaker Guy Coaches? It shows that one was motivated and the other quit. And Fales didn't "almost" beat us, we let our feet off the gas. Game wasn't close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 ROFL, well, the Jets just pissed away 3 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 8 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: I dont think its as good as you think. Gase is not as bad of a coach as you think. We were looking at a QB bust for NY and now he may get rescued. Jets fans ate idiots as are Dolphins fans and the majority of Pats fans. So St. Louis is the new Siberia? What say you @Hapless Bills Fan? We have to like this knowing we typically spilt with NYJ & MIA, and occasionally sweep them while being crappy ourselves. Knock it outta the Park this offseason, McBeane! The Yellow Brick Road is paved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 hours ago, purple haze said: Being good at offense or developing QB's, which in Gase's case, is debatable, does not make him a good head coach. HC is about the entire team, strategy and operations as well as culture of the team and organization. How did Gase do with all of that in Miami? Not so hot from what I saw; which is why he was available. Bad GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: So St. Louis is the new Siberia? What say you @Hapless Bills Fan? We have to like this knowing we typically spilt with NYJ & MIA, and occasionally sweep them while being crappy ourselves. Knock it outta the Park this offseason, McBeane! The Yellow Brick Road is paved! With a wuickly aging brady I dont necessarily disagree. But the Jets just got better, just not better than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Can't be thin-skinned when you face the NY media - not everyone is suited for it. Gase will have to grow up a bit if he's going to survive in NYC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Can't say that I'm impressed with this hire, but I can see what the Jets are trying to accomplish here if they (Jets and Gase) are open to retain the defensive system intact and Gase can develop Darnold, it could work. The thing is I don't really know if Gase deserves the "QB developer or the QB guru" tag. I was never impressed with his offense in Miami, I know he didn't have great QBs, but he never broke the average line in points for and yards. In 2016 Phins ranked 17th in points for and 24th in yards In 2017 Phins ranked 28th in points for and 25th in yards In 2018 Phins ranked 26th in points for and 31th in yards Time will tell, thumbs down if I were a Jets fan right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 What a weird selection by the Jets IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus99 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 AFC East will looks like it could be a mess . Good for us New England will unfortunately still win the division but this what I can picture of course things could drastically change New England 11-5 Buffalo 10-6 ( wild card ) Miami 5-11 NY Jets 3-13 Only time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 And the NFL continues to be the NFL, rotating the same tired names from location to location to location. I thought McCarthy was singularly targeting NYJ as his landing spot? Glad he's not in the AFC East, at least as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Glad he's not in the AFC East, at least as of now. Why? Terrible coach. I wanted him in division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 9 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: 15-17 Overall Record 4-8 in AFC East 1 Playoff Appearnce and 0-1 in Playoffs Whoops that is Coach McDermotts Record. actually in Miami Gase through two seasons was 16-16 Overall Record 6-6 in AFC East 1 Playoff Appearnce and 0-1 in Playoffs Just two sides of the same coin. the only thing I can say about this is even tho it's only 6 - 6 in AFCE, some of those wins are against the 1 AFCE team the rest can't seem to beat and that the Pats*** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Personally, I'm glad the Jets made this hire. His offenses haven't really been that innovative and he misused the talent he had in Miami, especially Stills and Drake. Hopefully he does the same thing in NY and wastes the next 2-3 years for them with Darnold at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Gase is a mediocre head coach who thinks he is Bill Belichick. He seriously needed to check his ego in Miami and didn't. He refused to use the talent he had based on whatever issue he had at any given point. I am sorry but to say Miami had no talent is ridiculous. Who here wouldn't have traded olines with them this year? Not sure what his personal issue was with Kenyan Drake but he is a talented back. He had both Drake and Damien Williams two seasons ago. He let Williams go, then decided to bring in gore rather than feature Drake who was younger and cheaper. That team had talent and he pissed it away or cut it because he has ego issues And not for nothing why didn't Denver run back to him? They could really use an offensive "mastermind" Edited January 10, 2019 by thenorthremembers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Not the sexiest hire but some of you are goingva little overboard. He is a pretty solid qb teacher. Tannehill is what he is. If Darnold really has elite skills (honestly, he confuses me), this could be a solid hire. He wasn’t close to as bad as some of you want him to be. Miami is a wasteland for football. With a few moves this offseason, the Jersey Jets will be far more talented than the Fins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Not the sexiest hire but some of you are goingva little overboard. He is a pretty solid qb teacher. Tannehill is what he is. If Darnold really has elite skills (honestly, he confuses me), this could be a solid hire. He wasn’t close to as bad as some of you want him to be. Miami is a wasteland for football. With a few moves this offseason, the Jersey Jets will be far more talented than the Fins. Then he should be a QB coach or OC, not a HC. He just proved he's not a good HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Then he should be a QB coach or OC, not a HC. He just proved he's not a good HC. In his first job, in place with RT as a qb, where no one cares. He had a better record after 2 years than our coach. like I said, it’s not an exciting hire. But it’s not close to as bad as some are making it out to be. It’s really all about Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: In his first job, in place with RT as a qb, where no one cares. He had a better record after 2 years than our coach. like I said, it’s not an exciting hire. But it’s not close to as bad as some are making it out to be. It’s really all about Darnold. His issue is attitude and personnel choices - he couldn’t tolerate Ajayi and Landry and ran them out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: His issue is attitude and personnel choices - he couldn’t tolerate Ajayi and Landry and ran them out of there. Ajayi sucks and I don’t think Landry is worth that money. I will say he needs to use his playmakers more (as a fantasy guy, I never got why Drake didn’t get the ball more) and pick a better DC. but it’s weird that Bills fans are mocking him like SM is some far superior coach. I’d argue that SM is the defensive Adam Gase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The head to head was 3-1 McD, and Gase would have gone 0-4 if Clay makes one catch. You remembered to include tannehill’s injuries but forgot to include that McD lost his starting QB for 6 weeks this season and had two guys off the street playing QB it was also Gase’s decision to bring in Cutler last year - and pay him 10 mill! He had him in Chicago for a year and arrogantly thought he could win with him, or he wouldn’t have paid him that much. the roster excuses are hard to take seriously - considering he had full control over the entire thing http://www.espn.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/19391/new-dolphins-head-coach-adam-gase-also-in-charge-of-53-man-roster Lets not forget NE's record in Miami..... Maybe Gase was part of that losing record for Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 he seems like a good coach as a designer of an offense but not a very good leader. The Dolphins really seemed to quit on him the past several years once they were eliminated from the playoff chase. That's one thing you have to credit McDermott for. The Bills never quit no matter what their record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Tsaikotic said: the only thing I can say about this is even tho it's only 6 - 6 in AFCE, some of those wins are against the 1 AFCE team the rest can't seem to beat and that the Pats*** Though Miami having the Pats number in Miami pre-dates Gase. 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Yea. If the Bills had just hired Gase as HC the same fans mocking the move now would be finding ways to praise it. I wouldn't be. I'd be saying exactly the same. Good offensive mind but just not cut out to be a Head Coach. He doesn't have the personality for it. If the Bills hired him as an OC I'd be pretty happy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 as a fan, i've never been nervous for the bills to go against a gase led team. i can't imagine this changes. 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Yea. If the Bills had just hired Gase as HC the same fans mocking the move now would be finding ways to praise it. scott talk! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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