GerstAusGosheim Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Brady retires. Foles to New England. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Not sure about the Redskins cap situation, but it's hard to imagine they're gonna be able to absorb a big QB contract unless Smith retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:  Because if their quarterback didn't blow, then they have a shot at competing. That is not a bad roster. They also have Marquise Lee coming back. They should not tear it down yet. But Bortles has to go one way or another.  They don't have any money to get a QB and they only gain 4 mil in cap by dumping bortles - They're currently 7 mil over the cap in 2019 . Jackson or dareus are both likely cut. If they want a QB worth anything they're going to have to cut both. And that's before drafting. They're most likely moving on from their top 5 pick RB, and losing all the other backs , Moncrief, their starting center and guard. They got a lot of holes and QB is only one of them.  It's not a good QB draft they are saying - so that means you can probably grab a replacement DT in the first who can step in and help right away. But you're rebuilding the line, and depending on what you spend to get a QB, you're probably still weak at wide receiver.   All this gets is a top heavy roster with players like Ngakoue and Ramsey who want to be paid in the top tier at their position - and like 0 depth. Edited January 8, 2019 by dneveu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Not sure about the Redskins cap situation, but it's hard to imagine they're gonna be able to absorb a big QB contract unless Smith retires.  Thats why my original guess was Tyrod. Let the chips fall and add someone at the end for less money and hopefully Smith is able to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, dneveu said:  Thats why my original guess was Tyrod. Let the chips fall and add someone at the end for less money and hopefully Smith is able to come back. Makes sense, but Smith and Tyrod(who I still like) on one team? I hope their WR's can block. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The best part about this thread is that our Bills are not any part of the discussion. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: The best part about this thread is that our Bills are not any part of the discussion.  Yep. I am surprised DA still wants to play but the fact he does means the Bills' QB room is all but finalised. I'd expect them to bring an UDFA in after the draft for the early part of camp to give the old boy (DA) some time off a bit like the Browns did with that kid behind Tyrod, Baker and Stanton, but I think it is pretty clear the Bills want to go into 2019 with the 3 they have on the roster now. Josh to start, Matt to back up and DA to mentor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Flacco to Washington makes sense in that he wouldn't even have to sell his house to go there. They could tailor the offense more toward his skill set, and include more play action & deep shots.  I think if Eli even wants to come back, he will be encouraged to retire. I could see NYG trading for Carr.  No idea on the Raiders. Could Gruden see Bridgewater or Tannehill as a WCO fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Foles is only a backup, but bet on him to go somewhere as a starter. He's better than most of the starters who are losing their jobs on their old teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Aside from Flacco, I don't think any of these guys have any hope as a starter next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Aside from Flacco, I don't think any of these guys have any hope as a starter next season. I think Tannehill and Foles probably get shots elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: I think Tannehill and Foles probably get shots elsewhere.  No one is giving Tannehill a shot. He's a loser QB with no upside.  Foles should stay in Philly. I don't know why he or the team would want him playing anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 He seems like a great dude and props for him coming back from that horrible injury.  But why do people think Bridgewater is good? 5 hours ago, Peace Frog said: I love that the Bills finally, FINALLY, don't have a QB situation that needs to be resolved going into the offseason. About time. Eh. I hope they are still looking to upgrade the position.  We literally saw the best start in Barkley’s career. Stop settling Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I think tyrod was exactly what the jags needed this year, a guy that won't throw pics and use his feet. Won't win games with his arm but if the defense can hold teams to feild goals then tyrod can win you games. I think the jags D is still elite but they just flat out gave up cuz the dumpster fire offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I think the dolphins would be crazy to let tannehill go. Not saying he's a franchise guy but other than foles, what FA is better than tannehill? And the draft class is pretty low for QBs. This last qb class was the fins chance. I think they ride out tannehill for another year and hope for a rookie next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:  If Tyrod goes to Baltimore, what happens to RGIII?  He stays on as QB3, like he is currently, imo. Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: He stays on as QB3, like he is currently, imo. Who knows  I think they wanted RGIII as an "insurance policy" that could play a Jackson-like game. I would think, if they took on Tyrod, they would let RGIII move on along, and that RGIII would try to find another landing spot.  2 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said: I think tyrod was exactly what the jags needed this year, a guy that won't throw pics and use his feet. Won't win games with his arm but if the defense can hold teams to feild goals then tyrod can win you games. I think the jags D is still elite but they just flat out gave up cuz the dumpster fire offense.  Interestingly, faced with a non-competitive offense, Captain Dareus started "phoning it it" down in Jax, just like he did with the Bills. So much for a new leaf.  I give Bortles credit that with a stalled run game, at least he tried to use his arm to make stuff happen even if he did throw picks. I think if they went back to having a top rushing game, it's possible Bortles might go back to adequate passing play. What the Jags really need is to upgrade at QB. I'm not sure Tyrod is that upgrade.  It is not entirely impossible Flacco might be a step up as a bridge if they draft a rookie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said: I think the dolphins would be crazy to let tannehill go. Not saying he's a franchise guy but other than foles, what FA is better than tannehill? And the draft class is pretty low for QBs. This last qb class was the fins chance. I think they ride out tannehill for another year and hope for a rookie next year  I would say the reason for getting rid of him is the same reason that teams shouldn't sign him, Flacco, Foles, etc. Paying below average to average starting QBs $20-25 million per year (in Tannehill's case, it would actually be more than that if Miami keeps him) is the worst place to be in football IMO. I'd rather sign someone cheap like Fitzpatrick and draft a rookie and pray than to invest that much of your salary cap in players that you know aren't good. If Tannehill, Foles, Flacco, etc. are your best option as a starting QB, I think you should just invest that money in other positions and go cheap at QB and hope you strike gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 The Dolphins are probably going all in on a cap reduction tank for 19. I doubt they sign a qb people care about. Especially one that will cost anything. They will probably start some garbage backup that they already have or sign a low $ FA like Teddy Bridgewater.  Washington probably expects Smith to be back and if Gruden stays, he will probably remain in love with Colt Mccoy.  Flacco was on his was out as being a capable starter in the league anyway and will be lucky to get another starting job. He’s just not good anymore.  The Jaguars would be dumb to not draft a QB. They are already in serious cap trouble, I doubt they are going to tie up money in a guy like Flacco or Eli. Probably will draft a guy and keep Kessler in the mix.  The Giants are going to start Eli and work a rookie in. As done as Eli is, they feel like they owe him and just won’t let it end.  I dont see these fringe starters getting nuch of a look. There are only so many jobs and very few that are open. Flacco isn’t good anymore. Eli is completely done and probably won’t be available. Bridgewater had a gift wrapped opportunity to impress and did what he does; Not make plays. Tyrod might have played himself out of another shot. Tannehill is young still and hes never really been that bad. He is the one guy I could see getting another legitimate shot. The only issue is where? Maybe if Alex Smith has to retire...maybe they would look at Tannehill. He seems like a player that wasn’t ever really given a fair shake and actually does have the tools to be good. Maybe it will take an injury but I think Tannehill gets another shot.  The most interesting guy is Foles. If he wanted it, he probably could get a starting job in several places. I think he has shown enough and proven that he has something extra that can’t be measured. The only issue is that it seems like he doesn’t have any interest in his own team. I think after last season, Foles could have forced the Eagles hand a little and cashed in off that run. It seems to me like he is content where he is. If that’s the case, it’s hard to figure him into the mix here.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 13 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: With a handful of notable QBs likely to, or expected to, leave their team, I'm curious in opinions or thoughts on where they may end up. Considering the lack of expected potential via draft at the position, I could see teams more willing to look to free agency for a signal caller. Here are my guesses:  Flacco: Jaxonville  Tannehill: Washington  Tyrod: Baltimore (backs up Lamar)  Manning: Retires  Bridgewater: Miami  My scenario leaves the Giants with a glaring need atvQB, where they could trade for Nick Mullens or select the highest ranked QB in the draft.  The other interesting scenario is Foles/Wentz in Phili, but ill let that play out to make a guess as to what happens.  Lmk if I'm missing anyone Giants get Haskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 12 hours ago, dneveu said: I think if they agree to the option it's easier to negotiate an extension - it wouldn't have the same limitations that a franchise tag has where the extension has to be met by a certain time. Foles can also just opt out for 2 mil and just sign where he wants and leave philly with nothing unless they tag.   They cannot tag Foles. Foles has play option to buy free agency. 10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:  Yep. I am surprised DA still wants to play but the fact he does means the Bills' QB room is all but finalised. I'd expect them to bring an UDFA in after the draft for the early part of camp to give the old boy (DA) some time off a bit like the Browns did with that kid behind Tyrod, Baker and Stanton, but I think it is pretty clear the Bills want to go into 2019 with the 3 they have on the roster now. Josh to start, Matt to back up and DA to mentor.  I am not surprised he wants to play since he would get more as #3 QB making veteran minimum than as a offense assistant working more hours. There definitely is something wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Didn't realize there were so many QBs likely to be on the move. Just like last season.  It's nice for once not to be shopping for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Didn't realize there were so many QBs likely to be on the move. Just like last season.  It's nice for once not to be shopping for a QB. Very well said. After the turmoil of the last few years, it's nice that the Bills now have three QBs under contract. I have to wonder when was the last time we could say that in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 9 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:  Eh. I hope they are still looking to upgrade the position.  We literally saw the best start in Barkley’s career. Stop settling Buffalo! You may be wrong Biscuit. It probably was Barkley's best start - whenever i saw him earlier he looked like Peterman. Oh, no, that might be it. Barkley reminds McDermott of Peterman!  Anyway, just about all the good journey men were lousy when they were young. They stuck around because they were smart team players who were helpful in the QB room. No one has a really good backup, and if they do, he's leaving.  I think they want Barkley, with Anderson, to give Allen some stability. They want to keep as much the same as possible going into year two.  Maybe in year three look to move on from Barkley, especially if you have a UDFA at QB on the practice squad in year two.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I could see Tyrod going to Miami. They must think he's a superstar down there. Plus he makes sense as a bridge for a team that has no real chance of contending next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Name that I did not see mentioned is on Tampa are they going to pick up the option on Winston or is that another landing spot with Arians coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Manning Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Thank God we got Allen. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 21 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: With a handful of notable QBs likely to, or expected to, leave their team, I'm curious in opinions or thoughts on where they may end up. Considering the lack of expected potential via draft at the position, I could see teams more willing to look to free agency for a signal caller. Here are my guesses:  Flacco: Jacksonville  Tannehill: Jets (as McCown retires...becomes the veteran backup)  Tyrod: Houston (backs up Watson)  Manning: (stays in NY)  Bridgewater: Miami  21 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:  My scenario leaves the Giants with a glaring need atvQB, where they could trade for Nick Mullens or select the highest ranked QB in the draft.  The other interesting scenario is Foles/Wentz in Phili, but ill let that play out to make a guess as to what happens.  Lmk if I'm missing anyone   Rosen: New Orleans....traded after Arizona drafts Haskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 hours ago, ILBillsfan said: Name that I did not see mentioned is on Tampa are they going to pick up the option on Winston or is that another landing spot with Arians coming in. They’ve already announced that Jameis will be their starting QB next year and Jameis was one of the main reasons Arians wanted the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 7:14 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: WWCKG?! Where Will Chad Kelly Go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 39 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Where Will Chad Kelly Go? Give that man a cigar! Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Foles will be in high demand.  The rest of the available QB’s are consolation prizes if you don’t get Foles or Haskins or one of the other 1st round QB’s.  Cousins and Keenum are cautionary tales about over-paying for average QB play.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 17 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:  I think they wanted RGIII as an "insurance policy" that could play a Jackson-like game. I would think, if they took on Tyrod, they would let RGIII move on along, and that RGIII would try to find another landing spot.   Interestingly, faced with a non-competitive offense, Captain Dareus started "phoning it it" down in Jax, just like he did with the Bills. So much for a new leaf.  I give Bortles credit that with a stalled run game, at least he tried to use his arm to make stuff happen even if he did throw picks. I think if they went back to having a top rushing game, it's possible Bortles might go back to adequate passing play. What the Jags really need is to upgrade at QB. I'm not sure Tyrod is that upgrade.  It is not entirely impossible Flacco might be a step up as a bridge if they draft a rookie. The only reason I think tyrod is an upgrade from bortles is the pics and his running ability. Tyrod doesn't have a better arm and isn't an overall better QB than bortles, I just think the jags could have used tyrod to help the run game and not throw pics. I don't think what happened this year was all on bortles, the jags didnt need alot from a QB with that defense they just needed someone that didn't throw pics and maybe some designed QB runs to soften up defenses and open up play action and tyrod can do that for you. Would tyrod be able to go out and keep up with offenses like the Rams, cheifs, and saints in the post season? No. But I think the jags would have had at least a respectable year with tyrod at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) On ‎1‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 6:47 AM, CommonCents said: Flacco on the Titans would probably make them more of a contender. I’m not sure they give up on MM yet.  Tyrod to Baltimore would be great for AFC teams and their wild card hopes. Talk about doubling down on stupid by the Ravens.  Tannehill and the Skins is the perfect combo of MEHHHH.  Best landing spot for Foles/Wentz would be NYG but you know they won’t make that deal in the division. That will be the most interesting off season story outside of the will he won’t he retire (Brady and BB).  The Ravens (far better team than Titans) couldn't contend with him.   And you're right, they won't give up on Mariota---certainly not for near end of career Flacco.. Edited January 9, 2019 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Jags have to go after Foles.  Bringing back Mr Personality as head coach means they have to win next year or he’s gone.  Would be extremely stupid to keep Maroone and draft a QB at pick #7.  But not sure why Foles would wanna go there.  Bad vibe and their coach is a dead man walking.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 I don't see how the Eagles let Foles go, especially with the injuries sustained by Wentz in back to back years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 4:56 AM, whatdrought said: Bridgewater to NYG makes sense. He had a chance to make decent money but didn’t show out, so he’ll probably be looking at something more in line with low level starter. Gives the giants a good backup/someone to plug in if Manning falters. Also, Schumer had him in MIN. Also, I think David Carr will legitimately be on the market. I think the giants make too much sense for that as well.   You mean David Carr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Manning - Jacksonville Flacco - NY Giants Carr - Redskins Foles - Dolphins Tannehill - Raiders Fitzpatrick - Cardinals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, from_dunkirk said: Â You mean David Carr? Â Hm.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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