RUMOR: Benjamin Allbright Cites Conjecture that Brian Daboll Could Replace Marrone in Jacksonville

[DCOrange]

1 hour ago, Flip Johnson said:

There will be some weird hires this offseason with the trend towards innovative offensive minds. Some guys that wouldn't previously have been considered deserving will get hired, but I'm not sure that will include Daboll.

 

Not only that, but we could end up with like 8 head coach vacancies this offseason so teams will likely have to go pretty far down the list to find their new coach. Wouldn't shock me if Daboll gets interviews. Ties to Belichick and Saban and the general consensus has been that he's done a good job this year. Allbright isn't the first person to mention Daboll as a possibility for teams this offseason.

Edited December 7, 2018 by DCOrange

[Albany,n.y.]

18 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

LOL

 

I used to live down the street from someone who had an old black busted ass chevy cavalier, and on the hood had an Audi symbol

This reminds me of the time I bought a new Audi and kept my beat up old VW Golf with the drivers side held together with bolts & Bondo for the 1st winter.  When I drove the VW I'm sure the other drivers had a whole different opinion of me than when I drove the Audi.  I was thinking of getting a bumper sticker to put on the VW saying "My other car is a new Audi" just because it really was but never did.  The problem with the VW was that if it got wet it would stall out whenever the car stopped for a light.  I once got stuck in a traffic jam where it was continually stalling and got a lot of grief from the people behind me.  All I could think of was I should have driven in the Audi that day.

 

 

[DCOrange]

38 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

Daboll is a Bills fan though correct? This is his dream job. Give him another offseason to tweak and make changes. If Daboll is successful with Allen though then I could see him being a desirable HC candidate. Ultimately Daboll needs to put up numbers for a few years. Build that resume up.

 

Being an offensive coordinator probably is not his dream job. And things change. Being the head coach at Syracuse was Doug Marrone's dream job. Then he unceremoniously left to become the head coach of his local-ish NFL team: his new dream job. Then he left Buffalo and ended up in Jacksonville.

 

If Daboll is offered a head coaching job, I would not at all be surprised if he took it, especially coming off a season in which the offense was pretty putrid.

[Virgil]

Daboll must have a lot of inappropriate pics saved in his phone of owners wives. I just don’t get it 

[DCOrange]

30 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Except that there really don’t appear to be any very good QB’s this year.

 

Besides, the team is in cap hell, and old man Caughlin calls all the shots.

 

Jags will probably be the worst opening.

 

Just off the top of my head I would think the Redskins potential opening is easily the worst.

 

I don't think the Jags opening is bad at all to be honest, and even so, I doubt Daboll will have his pick of the litter. If he's offered any head coaching job this offseason, it could easily end up being the only one he gets for many years.

 

The Jags will have basically all the pieces of what should have been an elite defense intact next season (minus Dareus and probably one other underperforming player like Barry Church). Offensively, they'll have to figure out the QB position and probably iron out the O-Line but they don't have many holes to fill to be right back in the playoff picture again next year IMO

Edited December 7, 2018 by DCOrange

[thebandit27]

3 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Daboll must have a lot of inappropriate pics saved in his phone of owners wives. I just don’t get it 

 

His play designs are actually quite good--his ability as a play-caller is something I'm skeptical of at this point, but who knows how much of that has been trying to (a) protect his rookie QB, or (b) protect his offense when all he's got is a 3rd-string or replacement-caliber QB running the show.

1 minute ago, DCOrange said:

 

Just off the top of my head I would think the Redskins potential opening is easily the worst.

 

I don't think the Jags opening is bad at all to be honest, and even so, I doubt Daboll will have his pick of the litter. If he's offered any head coaching job this offseason, it could easily end up being the only one he gets for many years.

 

The Jags will have basically all the pieces of what should have been an elite defense intact next season (minus Dareus and probably one other underperforming player like Barry Church). Offensively, they'll have to figure out the QB position and probably iron out the O-Line but they don't have many holes to fill to be right back in the playoff picture again next year IMO

 

In addition to GB and Cleveland, I feel like we could see any of NYJ, Jax, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Arizona (yes, I think Wilkes could be one-and-done), Carolina, Tampa Bay, Atlanta make a coaching change.

 

Crazy

[N.Y. Orangeman]

He's not going anywhere.  Blake Bortles at QB, the loss of 3 LTs and their best receiver should buy him another year, though I'd be very worried if I was Jim Caldwell and Tom Coughlin.

[DCOrange]

For what it's worth, one of the casinos in Vegas had Daboll among the top 4 most likely candidates to replace Mike McCarthy in Green Bay as of a few days ago too.

[Reed83HOF]

46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I want this to happen specifically for the media interaction with his nemesis Manish Mehta.

#MeToo

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

A team hiring daboll at head coach this off season is a gutsy hire.

 

Daboll's coaching trajectory is he will be a head coach at some point if he wants it, but to hire him this off season. What has the guy done?

My thoughts exactly.  He hasn’t had the greatest players to work with, but he also hasn’t shown himself (yet) to be an excellent offensive mind in the NFL.

[CommonCents]

I don’t think Daboll gets a HC job this year. A more interesting conversation would be what happens if the offense takes a major step forward next year and Allen/Daboll take the league by storm.

 

He would definetly fit the mold of an OC who can work with a young quarterback and he would be a lock for a HC job. Would the Bills entertain promoting Daboll to HC to keep him from leaving. 

 

I know, deal with the problem when/if it comes but it’s not that far fetched. If McD still can’t get the game management part of coaching down I think they Pegulas would have a tough decision.

[K-9]

56 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Marrone is going to the Jets I think. I think he wants out of Jacksonville and wants to go be with his boy Mike Maccagnan. They Jets hired their coach and GM separately, which obviously is dumb. I believe that Marrone is the guy Mike Maccagnan wants to be his head coach. If Marrone isn't fired he will probably quit anyway to go to the Jets.  

Oh, I don’t know. I just can’t see Marrone choosing to simply quit and walk away for another coaching job.

[Coach Tuesday]

It would be like the last time an inept organization hired away our coordinator (Pettine).

[Aussie Joe]

Funny that three weeks ago Daboll was getting fired from the Bills... now he is the trendy new Head Coach candidate..

 

Hope they get at least one more year out of him..I would like to see what he can do with Year 2 Allen with some weapons and an OL 

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

It would be like the last time an inept organization hired away our coordinator (Pettine).

It’s like anytime anyone has even a glimmer of success in Buffalo the rest of the league is like wow that guy must be a genius! Or a “Saint...”

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

Didnt Chris Polian suck as GM of the colts?

 

If I'm a person potentially getting my first HC gig, the last person I want to be tied to is Chris Polian.  A HC typically succeeds or fails based on the talent he has and I wouldn't trust Chris to give you any help there. 

[Bangarang]

He’s not HC material yet. Still on the fence about him even being a decent OC.

[Lofton80]

I think the coaching fraternity is pretty familiar with each other. If he was hired away, it would be for a career of work not just this season. I am curious to see how the offense runs with better personnel.  

[PIZ]

Are any of these early guesses ever right?  We're barely into December and these clowns like Albright are already saying who is going where?

 

 

 

[Ray Finkel]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He is friends with Chris Polian.

St Franny connection

[H2o]

I could see McCarthy landing in Jax as HC. Daboll has work to do before he gets a HC gig. 

[Captain Hindsight]

2 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Neither do I

In my opinion it would be smart of daboll to wait a couple years get more experience and pick his spot

There are 32 HC's jobs in the NFL and they dont always open for you. If you have a shot, you take it 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

16 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

There are 32 HC's jobs in the NFL and they dont always open for you. If you have a shot, you take it 

My thinking comes from two areas

 

1.I think highly of daboll and believe its a matter of when not if he becomes a head coach

 

2. The jags job isn't a good one. Its an organization id stay away from

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, Flip Johnson said:

There will be some weird hires this offseason with the trend towards innovative offensive minds. Some guys that wouldn't previously have been considered deserving will get hired, but I'm not sure that will include Daboll.

 

Check out my post in the Green Bay thread.  Offensive minds are at a premium right now, and Daboll is an offensive mind.   Allen is starting to trend up and has been brought along the right way.  Jax likely will break in a new QB next year.  Daboll has a great pedigree.  I’m worried about the Jets getting involved with him, but Jax makes a ton of sense, too.  I will not be surprised at all if we have to look for a new OC in mid-January. 

6 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

My thinking comes from two areas

 

1.I think highly of daboll and believe its a matter of when not if he becomes a head coach

 

2. The jags job isn't a good one. Its an organization id stay away from

 

 

Agreed on both points.  And, for what it’s worth, I think the Jets job is worse than Jax.  But if somebody offered me $15 to $20 million and a shot to work with a young QB on the East Coast, I would take it. 

[Bing Bong]

2 hours ago, jr1 said:

he'll try this with Fournette 

 

That's a pretty good run. Can't gameplan for that.

[Chris66]

In this new nfl. If you have a decent oc you better make him a head coach. If you dont someone else will.

 

The bigger question will be all the newlynfired dc coaches where will they end up

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Ray Finkel said:

St Franny connection

Yes, but Caldwell was too and be may be out. He gave Chris a job in Jax, after working for Chris in Indy. So that’s a bit awkward. 

 

I guess I find it odd that Caldwell would be out, but polian would stay. He’s basically his asst GM.

 

i could see Caldwell being out, Bortles was his guy, and his power has been diminished since Coughlin got there. But just not sure how aware Allbright is on the tangled web here. 

[bigK14094]

3 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Marrone is going to the Jets I think. I think he wants out of Jacksonville and wants to go be with his boy Mike Maccagnan. They Jets hired their coach and GM separately, which obviously is dumb. I believe that Marrone is the guy Mike Maccagnan wants to be his head coach. If Marrone isn't fired he will probably quit anyway to go to the Jets.  

I seem to recall that Marrone had some time as a coach w the Jets......

[MrEpsYtown]

3 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

No way.  Imagine the NY media if the Jets hired a guy fired by Jacksonville after a double digit loss season.  The GM would be run out of town on a rail.  

 

The Jets are going to play to the media & hire a big name like one of the Harbaughs or McCarthy.  They're not bringing in a rookie coach again unless they feel that Darnold needs continuity and promote Bates.  

 

2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Oh, I don’t know. I just can’t see Marrone choosing to simply quit and walk away for another coaching job.

 

I think they will have one of those mutual "parting of the ways" and I truly believe that they can spin everything to be Blake Bortles' fault. Marrone gets out of this thing clean in my opinion because his quarterback blows. I think the media and such see a good coach who has been let down by his ***** quarterback, who he did not draft btw. 

[PirateHookerMD]

I have to think that Daboll wants to build this thing. He moved back to WNY for his family and I doubt he would be chomping at the bit to take that Jacksonville job. Have Terry give him a raise and I doubt he leaves for a HC job after 1 season. 

 

Not only that, but has the guy really earned a HC job? Suspect resume as this point. Sure there are extenuating factors but doesn't seem like he deserves it yet. 

Edited December 7, 2018 by PirateHookerMD

[C.Biscuit97]

Please let some team be dumb enough to hire Daboll as a head coach.  That’s hilarious.  Have to love the cronyism of the nfl that a guy with this resume is considered a head coaching “candidate.”  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/DaboBr0.htm

Just now, PirateHookerMD said:

I have to think that Daboll wants to build this thing. He moved back to WNY for his family and I doubt he would be comping at the bit to take that Jacksonville job. Have Terry give him a raise and I doubt he leaves for a HC job after 1 season. 

OMG!!! We are giving raises for the worst offense in the nfl now!  What is going on right now!!!

[PirateHookerMD]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Please let some team be dumb enough to hire Daboll as a head coach.  That’s hilarious.  Have to love the cronyism of the nfl that a guy with this resume is considered a head coaching “candidate.”  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/DaboBr0.htm

OMG!!! We are giving raises for the worst offense in the nfl now!  What is going on right now!!!

 

lol, while I don't disagree, if someone actually tries to hire him away, you do what you can to keep the guy for the sake of Allens development. 

[1st&ten]

3 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Marrone is going to the Jets I think. I think he wants out of Jacksonville and wants to go be with his boy Mike Maccagnan. They Jets hired their coach and GM separately, which obviously is dumb. I believe that Marrone is the guy Mike Maccagnan wants to be his head coach. If Marrone isn't fired he will probably quit anyway to go to the Jets.  

 

Good for him----he can text his players that he's leaving instead of telling them in person----then the Bills can kick his fat a**  twice a year.

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, PirateHookerMD said:

 

lol, while I don't disagree, if someone actually tries to hire him away, you do what you can to keep the guy for the sake of Allens development. 

Yeah, keeping a bad coach for the sake of a qb wonder wonders for Mariota and Winston.

[1st&ten]

2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Oh, I don’t know. I just can’t see Marrone choosing to simply quit and walk away for another coaching job.

 

Well maybe Commander Tom shuts the office door & slaps the sunglasses off his fat head & tells him to get the hell out.

[LSHMEAB]

3 hours ago, DCOrange said:

 

Being an offensive coordinator probably is not his dream job. And things change. Being the head coach at Syracuse was Doug Marrone's dream job. Then he unceremoniously left to become the head coach of his local-ish NFL team: his new dream job. Then he left Buffalo and ended up in Jacksonville.

 

If Daboll is offered a head coaching job, I would not at all be surprised if he took it, especially coming off a season in which the offense was pretty putrid.

Yeah, I'll go a step further and say that if Daboll were offered a head coaching gig, I'd be SHOCKED if he didn't take it.

 

Once you reach a certain place professionally, all the WNY ties and such are out the window. Any assistant coach who doesn't have aspirations to be a Head Coach is a coach I'd rather not have on the staff.

 

 

2 hours ago, Commonsense said:

I don’t think Daboll gets a HC job this year. A more interesting conversation would be what happens if the offense takes a major step forward next year and Allen/Daboll take the league by storm.

 

He would definetly fit the mold of an OC who can work with a young quarterback and he would be a lock for a HC job. Would the Bills entertain promoting Daboll to HC to keep him from leaving. 

 

I know, deal with the problem when/if it comes but it’s not that far fetched. If McD still can’t get the game management part of coaching down I think they Pegulas would have a tough decision.

I worry about that scenario kind of like I worry about how to keep the dynasty together if we start winning Superbowls.

[Commish]

When a job is offered to an OC like Daboll, can/do/should the head coach extract a promise to stay at least two years?

 

[K-9]

41 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I think they will have one of those mutual "parting of the ways" and I truly believe that they can spin everything to be Blake Bortles' fault. Marrone gets out of this thing clean in my opinion because his quarterback blows. I think the media and such see a good coach who has been let down by his ***** quarterback, who he did not draft btw. 

You give my post far too much respect with your well thought out response. 

 

I was being totally sarcastic about how he left his job here. Although, as he did here,  it would be hilarious to see him quit the Jags thinking the Jets naming him HC is a fait accompli only to see it  not happen again.

25 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Yeah, I'll go a step further and say that if Daboll were offered a head coaching gig, I'd be SHOCKED if he didn't take it.

 

Once you reach a certain place professionally, all the WNY ties and such are out the window. Any assistant coach who doesn't have aspirations to be a Head Coach is a coach I'd rather not have on the staff.

It’s ironic that a major reason he’d be offered the Jags job is because of those WNY ties in the first place. 

[Ray Finkel]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Yes, but Caldwell was too and be may be out. He gave Chris a job in Jax, after working for Chris in Indy. So that’s a bit awkward. 

 

I guess I find it odd that Caldwell would be out, but polian would stay. He’s basically his asst GM.

 

i could see Caldwell being out, Bortles was his guy, and his power has been diminished since Coughlin got there. But just not sure how aware Allbright is on the tangled web here. 

Good point.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Hmm daboll....  well he did take one of the worst QB draft prospects of all time and turn him into the PFF QB of the week in just a few months

 

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