twist_to_open Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 They said on Fox pregame that according to recent pictures he was posting on line it looks like he hasn't kept himself in game shape. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, PlayoffsPlease said: I think you are likely correct. But there is no bad blood with another team, only the Steelers. He might decide the Franchise money is worth it. I would rather keep shady though. You have a point, but I think the bottom line is Bell wants to get paid what he thinks he deserves. Also, a team isn't likely to give away a first round pick and more unless they're locking him up. That's what would make a deal for him so tough. Bell might need to hit free agency & see firsthand that he's overvaluing himself before he can face that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Could the Bills even make this trade if they wanted to? Bell can can only play under the tag this year, correct? When is the earliest they could sign him to a new deal? Cause if they can’t, they’d have to find other ways to move money around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I'd wait until he is a free agent next year, would definitely definitely definitely sign him to a lucrative deal then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Could the Bills even make this trade if they wanted to? Bell can can only play under the tag this year, correct? When is the earliest they could sign him to a new deal? Cause if they can’t, they’d have to find other ways to move money around. The way these kinds of trades usually work is the new team and player quietly work out a contract before the trade is announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Save to cap room for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 No thanks. Let someone else overpay for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 47 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Have you seen his quarterback and receivers? Any running back can run through wide open holes while the opposing D is completely focused on stopping the passing offense. Hard pass. not the question i asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchiseneedsme Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 He wont command more then a 5th. He is a rental player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I want AB let’s figure that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I dont think bell wants to play this year. He wants a large guaranteed contract before he retires not a one year franchise tag deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I dont think bell wants to play this year. He wants a large guaranteed contract before he retires not a one year franchise tag deal. That's ballsy then to say goodbye to 14 million. He will NEVER re-coop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Everyone against Bell has to be blind. The guy is a force who knows what he’s worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Returntoglory said: That's ballsy then to say goodbye to 14 million. He will NEVER re-coop it. Yes it is. But if he can get more guaranteed next year it might be smart long term(health and guaranteed money wise). Especially when you think about how many times he touches the ball for Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 No thanks- guys a pain in the ass and wants huge money. He could of made 14.45 mil this year- what Shady makes in 3 and turned it down. He is 27 years old- not worth a long term deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I dont think bell wants to play this year. He wants a large guaranteed contract before he retires not a one year franchise tag deal. He has to play at least 6 games or it will not count as a year of service and he can be tagged again at the same price he is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo86 said: Bell wouldn't accept a trade without a new deal being worked out. He'd go Darwin Walker. He is on the franchise tag which can not be changed at this time. Any team trading him would have to pay QB # next year with a third franchise tag or risk losing him. No guarantee he will sign with the team that trades for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Everyone against Bell has to be blind. The guy is a force who knows what he’s worth. He is a great back. He isn't worth a a high draft pick and paying 15mill a year for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I dont think bell wants to play this year. He wants a large guaranteed contract before he retires not a one year franchise tag deal. Bell has to spend at least 6 games on the 53 man roster or IR if he wants to be a Free Agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Everyone against Bell has to be blind. The guy is a force who knows what he’s worth. Amazing back who lost the window on a fair, long term deal. Now he will be chasing the coin. Dude has already lost 885k times 3 this season. Next year he is 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I dont think bell wants to play this year. He wants a large guaranteed contract before he retires not a one year franchise tag deal. As said many times before, he will report in week 10 to get his accrued season and dissolve the tag for 2018, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 A 3rd and shady. 3 years 45 mil. 40 guaranteed takes it down. Out of the backfeild and between the tackles he is the best in the business. All the cap space the next few years and Allen on his rookie deal, makes Buffalo a realistic player for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 53 minutes ago, /dev/null said: The way these kinds of trades usually work is the new team and player quietly work out a contract before the trade is announced Agreed. But my question was, is that possible in this specific case? There is a deadline to negotiate a new deal for franchise tagged players. Once the deadline passes, a new deal can not be worked on until after the season is over. https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2018/7/16/17576470/pittsburgh-steelers-unable-to-agree-an-extension-with-rb-leveon-bell-before-nfl-deadline-of-july-16 Quote The league-imposed deadline for the Pittsburgh Steelers to sign Le’Veon Bell to long-term contract passed on Monday at 4 p.m ET without any fanfare after both sides were once again unable to come to an agreement on a new deal. Adam Schefter of ESPN was one of the first to confirm the news via Twitter. As per NFL rules, negotiations toward an extension cannot now resume until after the end of the regular season, assuming they ever do. Bell will play under the franchise tag in 2018 and will earn a salary of $14.544 million this year. If he is traded, can the new team negotiate an extension? Or can he only play under the tag this season, no matter who he plays for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Everyone against Bell has to be blind. The guy is a force who knows what he’s worth. Just like anyone else he's worth what someone wants to pay. We'll see what that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 No way. This is the kind of move that would cause me to lose faith in Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Vontae Davis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 All Bell has to do is sign his franchise tender and report by Week 8 and he gets thst gusranteed money. He’ll report then and that’s why he’s okay losing game checks right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Returntoglory said: That's ballsy then to say goodbye to 14 million. He will NEVER re-coop it. Look at the Mack Deal or the the Donald deal. Non-QB deals. 14 million is officially chump change to those two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: As said many times before, he will report in week 10 to get his accrued season and dissolve the tag for 2018, What if he doesn't? Does the current franchise tag slide? Ie the steelers dont have to re tag him, he is just under this current tag until he reports? Also what does this do to the steelers cap? Is his contract included? (Not necessarily asking you/singling you out as I got 3 responses with the same message yours just happened to be the last one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: What if he doesn't? Does the current franchise tag slide? Ie the steelers dont have to re tag him, he is just under this current tag until he reports? Also what does this do to the steelers cap? Is his contract included? (Not necessarily asking you/singling you out as I got 3 responses with the same message yours just happened to be the last one) For him not to show would be ridiculously stupid on his part. He'd have to sign the same franchise tender next year. If the Steelers didn't let him go this year, they will never let him go next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 If we were one or two pieces away, maybe. Too many holes to fill. OL+, WR+, #2 CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Buffalo86 said: Bell wouldn't accept a trade without a new deal being worked out. He'd go Darwin Walker. No deal can be made until after the season after Steelers do not franchise him a second time. edit: team can negotiate a long term deal while on 2nd franchise tag again up to approx. July 15. Once he was tagged and the deadline passed in July 15 he can not sign a new contract now. Can only sign the franchise tender and play this year for Steelers or team he is traded to. If he holds out all year he is not a free agent next year either. That is why it is assumed he returns week 10, I think he needs 6 games to accrue enough games to have this year count towards free agency. Edited September 24, 2018 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Antiprocess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Shady and a 2020 3rd. That would be beautiful. Maybe he doesn’t fit “process” but it seems like a lot of this has been boiling in Pittsburgh for a while. And while I don’t usually side with players in contract holdouts, Bell has earned a contract extension. And the problem is they should’ve done a 4 or 5 year deal 2 or 3 years ago. Now they’re less inclined to do so because he’s only gotten older. It’s not the worst thing for the Steelers because they’ve been able to keep him for his prime years. But at the same time, he’s one of the top 5-10 offensive non-qb weapons in the league. This is a guy I would make a play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 Jets have called about him. Would suck for is but makes a ton of sense for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 8:00 PM, Mat68 said: A 3rd and shady. 3 years 45 mil. 40 guaranteed takes it down. Out of the backfeild and between the tackles he is the best in the business. All the cap space the next few years and Allen on his rookie deal, makes Buffalo a realistic player for him. From,what some are saying. And Dan Patrick parroted this. He does not want a sign and trade. He would go to a team as a one year rental. No tag. in 19 and the ability to be a free agent next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Good luck with that one. IOW he's sitting out until week 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: From,what some are saying. And Dan Patrick parroted this. He does not want a sign and trade. He would go to a team as a one year rental. No tag. in 19 and the ability to be a free agent next season. He could go to the Jets if they tell his agent they will sign him long-term for whatever he would demand in FA. They have the cap space to do it. He could be back in green and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Best Player Available said: From,what some are saying. And Dan Patrick parroted this. He does not want a sign and trade. He would go to a team as a one year rental. No tag. in 19 and the ability to be a free agent next season. The end of the day you would hold the cards. You could franchise him with the intentions of a long term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) I don’t think the Steelers want him back this year, they are getting great production out of Conner at a small fraction of the cost. Why pay 800,000$ a game when you can pay 600,000$ for a whole year of Conner. Don’t be shocked if they release him, even if it means losing out on a third round comp pick next year. Edited September 25, 2018 by Dr. Football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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