COTC Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 This morning, I had a conversation with a Bills Executive, who wishes to remain anonymous. This was his thought on the game and general status of the team. “Allen showed composure. I like some of the movement under Dabol. The free agents, o-line and peterman are a waste. Tampa 2,3 zone 8 yards back made Flacco look like Montana. This is what happens when a insecurity replaces judgement in turning over roster. Darby for Jordan Matthews. Marcel for a 5th, Watkins, Tyrod and Glenn for picks never selected. Coleman cut Even Benjamin for a third looked like a bust. Let's just hope I am overreacting and next week we rebound against a team flying west to east. Last night, on a podcast, Mel Kiper predicted the Bills to have the worst record in football, losing their first 8. Let's hope not. There is no plan for Allen, however, will now remain the starter” 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 it sure doesn't seem like there is an actual plan for Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Mel Kiper loved JA though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Mel Kiper loved JA though.. Kiss of death.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 i always like hearing this stuff, but i'm not sure i learned anything. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I’m 50/50 that there was no executive involved 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Did this conversation take place during a high level business meeting? 1 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: I’m 50/50 that there was no executive involved Maybe it was former executive.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Flacco did look like Montana. With limitted pass rush Our secondary was a joke yesterday by the way, with so much else to B word about few people are talking about it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 To the OP.....perhaps the bills "plan" is to not be good this year and get into the premium picks with 10 picks in hand? This could TOTALLY be the case.....and a "executive with the bills" would know that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, COTC said: This morning, I had a conversation with a Bills Executive, who wishes to remain anonymous. I call BS. If there is one thing this coaching staff and front office know how to do (in fact, maybe the only thing they know how to do), it's not leak or talk behind each other's backs... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Jaraxxus and Lurker did you really feel you needed to make that point. If you don't like what the poster is saying just move on. I get tired of people making comments towards posters who do the classy thing and don't throw people under the bus. If you don't want to believe it that's your call but no one needs to hear it. It makes people not want to report information. Last year I had a good conversation with Brandon Spikes and I didn't throw his name out there and got bashed when I passed some of the things I learned from him along that I thought were interesting. Guess what, it will never happen again. I spoke with an insider with the Panthers who is very close to Beane and McDermott a few weeks back but those conversations I had will now stay close to the vest. Thanks COTC, appreciate you passing things along. Edited September 10, 2018 by offsides#76FredSmerlas 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, golfball323 said: lol, i actually could give details on a real live talk with a PSE exec. But that info was for my ears only. Let's just say that his predictions we're right on... I'm not surprised at all. Pegula was heard by one of my friends to say specifically "we need to bottom out" in regards to the Sabres a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I bumped into Terry Pegula recently ... some of he things he told me ...hoo boy... My lips are sealed though... 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Aussie Joe said: I bumped into Terry Pegula recently ... some of he things he told me ...hoo boy... My lips are sealed though... I cal BS on this, I have heard Terry speak, he says nothing and knows even less. Now if it was Kim you bumped into, most likely on purpose literally, that I would like to hear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Does he work in the Football Operations or an Executive in another department? I'm not trying to discount your story OP....I'm asking because about 15 years ago, I met a Bills Executive. He wasn't in Football Operations so he wasn't privy (Doug Whaley!) to any real football stuff. It was like a coffee break conversation you'd have with a co-worker. Edited September 10, 2018 by Royale with Cheese 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Another conversation Whaley was not privy to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, Foxx said: it sure doesn't seem like there is an actual plan for Allen. There was one. A Bills executive could be the head of the facility cleaning operation or the office manager. Are we talking about a bills executive or a BILLS EXECUTIVE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jaraxxus said: No offense intended, but in today’s environment I don’t put much stock into anonymously sourced information. ? Yeah. Just trying to share what I heard. Obviously this is nothing breaking, just a thought of an exec with the Bills. Really shows the disfunction. I don’t think They are happy with Beane or McD. Edited September 10, 2018 by COTC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Nothing like passing your own thoughts as a source. Nice job. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 If the guy is an executive in the football area he is a part of the mess and his opinion means very little. If he is an executive outside of the football operation his opinion on the football side of things means even less. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 56 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: No offense intended, but in today’s environment I don’t put much stock into anonymously sourced information. ? Come on man, I talk to Bills front office executives all the time, don't you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: I’m 50/50 that there was no executive involved Reminds me of a story that my boss, who is now a hotel mogul, likes to tell. In 1996, he was working the front desk of a hotel owned by his father. He was in college and starting to feel his oats a bit. A guest called down and said, "I need an Executive Decision." My boss thought, I'm the owner's son, I can handle this, and said, "Sure sir, I can make an Executive Decision for you, what do you need? The guest responded, "No, you idiot, I'm trying to buy the Kurt Russell movie "An Executive Decision" and it won't come through on the pay-per-view box in my room. Edited September 10, 2018 by ChevyVanMiller 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 48 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: To the OP.....perhaps the bills "plan" is to not be good this year and get into the premium picks with 10 picks in hand? This could TOTALLY be the case.....and a "executive with the bills" would know that This is another BS post! The same old "I want it now" and they got beat bad so I am throwing a temper tantrum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 “Insecurity Replaces Judgement in turning over the roster” this is a gem. Smh at beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: If I did, I wouldn’t share it here. Ya got me there! Great response! 1 hour ago, Foxx said: it sure doesn't seem like there is an actual plan for Allen. OK, you on your bat phone? 54 minutes ago, ricojes said: Did this conversation take place during a high level business meeting? On a mansion or a yacht? 52 minutes ago, offsides#76FredSmerlas said: Jaraxxus and Lurker did you really feel you needed to make that point. If you don't like what the poster is saying just move on. I get tired of people making comments towards posters who do the classy thing and don't throw people under the bus. If you don't want to believe it that's your call but no one needs to hear it. It makes people not want to report information. Last year I had a good conversation with Brandon Spikes and I didn't throw his name out there and got bashed when I passed some of the things I learned from him along that I thought were interesting. Guess what, it will never happen again. I spoke with an insider with the Panthers who is very close to Beane and McDermott a few weeks back but those conversations I had will now stay close to the vest. Thanks COTC, appreciate you passing things along. Where do these people come from and what is happening to this board? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Did he pen the NY Times OP-ED too? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 51 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: To the OP.....perhaps the bills "plan" is to not be good this year and get into the premium picks with 10 picks in hand? This could TOTALLY be the case.....and a "executive with the bills" would know that Judging by the off-season oline additions I think tanking must be the plan. The 5 year 50 mil contract to Star however, makes me think that maybe these guys just don't know what they are doing. Regardless of if it was planned, with the worst o line and wr corps in the league and a sieve of a defense, the Bills will almost certainly have a top 5 pick in next year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 35 minutes ago, COTC said: Yeah. Just trying to share what I heard. Obviously this is nothing breaking, just a thought of an exec with the Bills. Really shows the disfunction. I don’t think They are not happy with Beane or McD. I appreciate it when people share in good faith. Thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, COTC said: This morning, I had a conversation with a Bills Executive, who wishes to remain anonymous. This was his thought on the game and general status of the team. “Allen showed composure. I like some of the movement under Dabol. The free agents, o-line and peterman are a waste. Tampa 2,3 zone 8 yards back made Flacco look like Montana. This is what happens when a insecurity replaces judgement in turning over roster. Darby for Jordan Matthews. Marcel for a 5th, Watkins, Tyrod and Glenn for picks never selected. Coleman cut Even Benjamin for a third looked like a bust. Let's just hope I am overreacting and next week we rebound against a team flying west to east. Last night, on a podcast, Mel Kiper predicted the Bills to have the worst record in football, losing their first 8. Let's hope not. There is no plan for Allen, however, will now remain the starter” This page is filled with insiders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Dunkirk Don is back everyone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Why are people saying they talked to someone, but they won't tell you what they said. I can only understand it if you talked to your therapist, and you won't tell me what he said. Otherwise say nothing, just say nothing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 34 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: If the guy is an executive in the football area he is a part of the mess and his opinion means very little. If he is an executive outside of the football operation his opinion on the football side of things means even less. What mess. Oh the one from the last front office they are dealing with. Look a lot of the players from the last regime didn't fit what they are doing. 50 mil in dead money. One starting OL forced to retire another lost his mind I remained optimistic but I'm also realistic. Some people are just not as logical as others I guess. Maybe you thought we were going to the Superbowl or something. This season for me will be watching our young people so develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemfield2622 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Who was the executive? Was it amomimus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 48 minutes ago, COTC said: Yeah. Just trying to share what I heard. Obviously this is nothing breaking, just a thought of an exec with the Bills. Really shows the disfunction. I don’t think They are not happy with Beane or McD. OK - so who is above them to be unhappy? Sounds like BS IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, COTC said: This morning, I had a conversation with a Bills Executive, who wishes to remain anonymous. This was his thought on the game and general status of the team. “Allen showed composure. I like some of the movement under Dabol. The free agents, o-line and peterman are a waste. Tampa 2,3 zone 8 yards back made Flacco look like Montana. This is what happens when a insecurity replaces judgement in turning over roster. Darby for Jordan Matthews. Marcel for a 5th, Watkins, Tyrod and Glenn for picks never selected. Coleman cut Even Benjamin for a third looked like a bust. Let's just hope I am overreacting and next week we rebound against a team flying west to east. Last night, on a podcast, Mel Kiper predicted the Bills to have the worst record in football, losing their first 8. Let's hope not. There is no plan for Allen, however, will now remain the starter” Doug Whaley? Buddy Nix? Rex Ryan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 "Exectutive" CJO - Chief Janitorial Officer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Fan in LA Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Whether or not McBeane was strategizing to tank this year and be in a terrific position to use their accumulated draft picks to maximum advantage, it's a great idea IMHO. If the next few games are as disastrous as the last, it will certainly cross their minds, if it has't already. I don't give them that much credit though......... Beane is a good draft guy, McDermott is just a rah rah guy with limited coaching skill, again IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, ricojes said: Did this conversation take place during a high level business meeting? That was my thought. But can Chadwick or Dunkirk confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, COTC said: This morning, I had a conversation with a Bills Executive, who wishes to remain anonymous. This was his thought on the game and general status of the team. “Allen showed composure. I like some of the movement under Dabol. The free agents, o-line and peterman are a waste. Tampa 2,3 zone 8 yards back made Flacco look like Montana. This is what happens when a insecurity replaces judgement in turning over roster. Darby for Jordan Matthews. Marcel for a 5th, Watkins, Tyrod and Glenn for picks never selected. Coleman cut Even Benjamin for a third looked like a bust. Let's just hope I am overreacting and next week we rebound against a team flying west to east. Last night, on a podcast, Mel Kiper predicted the Bills to have the worst record in football, losing their first 8. Let's hope not. There is no plan for Allen, however, will now remain the starter” Sure does not sound like an Executive speaking here. Especially the criticizing line about the trades and the part about no plan for Allen. Maybe he talked to the Director of Food Services or something else not football related. I will admit I was puzzled by Buffalo playing a fairly deep zone in the rain, especially when Baltimore was in man coverage and slowing our receivers up at the line of scrimmage. McD was completely out coached in this one and coaching was as big a part of this ugly result as was the play of Peterman or the OL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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