Yeezus Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Shows how Allens footwork keeps improving, stuff he got criticized for in college. Also highlights how abysmal our Oline was, literally half the players that don't know the ball was even snapped. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Allen looks to be the elusive franchise QB we've been waiting for. Baldinger is right about the OLine, which needs to get squared away quickly. The guys he picked on - Ducasse, Dawkins, and Mills were all there last year. This is on Juan Castillo. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Yeezus said: Shows how Allens footwork keeps improving, stuff he got criticized for in college. Also highlights how abysmal our Oline was, literally half the players that don't know the ball was even snapped. The snap was early. Groy's mistake. He's messed up the snap count twice this preseason, maybe something to watch. The OL struggled with communicating this game. I wonder if they were trying something new. Many mental mistakes. Edited August 18, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: The snap was early. Groy's mistake. He's messed up the snap count twice this preseason, maybe something to watch. The OL struggled with communicating this game. I wonder if they were trying something new. Many mental mistakes. One of the analysts was mentioning this happening to a lot of teams Offensive Lines. Linemen being completely lost by simple stunts around the league in preseason. Blamed it on lack of in-person tape watching with everyone taking their tablets home to watch tape instead of staying as a unit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The qb can make the o line look good just like an o line can make a rb look good. If Allen can make some plays and make quick reads our o line will look better. Gonna be some ups and downs but if our defense can shore up that run d Allen won’t have to sling it 40 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 If anything, Allen looks to be very coachable and that’s a great thing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Ducasse and Mills are putrid. They should not start. Play someone that sucks like them but at least care. Edited August 18, 2018 by Fixxxer 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, Yeezus said: Shows how Allens footwork keeps improving, stuff he got criticized for in college. Also highlights how abysmal our Oline was, literally half the players that don't know the ball was even snapped. Couldn't agree more; Allen rocks , Oline sux. 17 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Allen looks to be the elusive franchise QB we've been waiting for. Baldinger is right about the OLine, which needs to get squared away quickly. The guys he picked on - Ducasse, Dawkins, and Mills were all there last year. This is on Juan Castillo. or those guys are trash and Beane better address this next year (along with TE, WR and RB ) With McD playing the guy who gives us the best chance to win , Allen should be the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I hate Juan Castillo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 OL looked as atrocious on these clips as they appeared to the naked eye last night. Only Worse! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: OL looked as atrocious on these clips as they appeared to the naked eye last night. Only Worse! That’s because Baldy had the Full Frontal view showing how bad they were up close and personal. Defenders were past our O line before their hands got up. I have to believe this was by design. Maybe they wanted to see the QBs under duress and if they can take a hit or two or seven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 2019 draft and FA will correct the offense I believe. We have all our picks and top 5 in money to spend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 This o-line looks exactly like it should when it’s leader has left and no one has stepped up to take over. I’m talking about E Wood of course. They need someone to take over and it usually has to be the center. Groy or Bodine? NOT good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 41 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Couldn't agree more; Allen rocks , Oline sux. or those guys are trash and Beane better address this next year (along with TE, WR and RB ) With McD playing the guy who gives us the best chance to win , Allen should be the starter. Wow, Dawkins has one bad pre-season game against a guy who might be one of the rising superstar pass rushers and he's "trash"?...yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, thurst44 said: Wow, Dawkins has one bad pre-season game against a guy who might be one of the rising superstar pass rushers and he's "trash"?...yikes. I just read in the who hurt/helped themselves that Dawkins hurt and if you watch the above video he let a guy said right by him. I'm not saying hes the worst but all the other guys should be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 The video clip was only 2:19 and it seems to cut off prematurely with Baldinger in mid-sentence. Does anyone know where to find the full video? If someone can post it that would be great. The original source for this material is not Twitter, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yeezus said: Shows how Allens footwork keeps improving, stuff he got criticized for in college. Also highlights how abysmal our Oline was, literally half the players that don't know the ball was even snapped. Nice share. Game does not seem too big for him, thus starting him won’t ‘spoil’ him. He will screw up but his confidence isn’t getting shattered. Edited August 19, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 55 minutes ago, NickelCity said: I hate Juan Castillo. He makes me yearn for the days of Carl Mauck. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Honestly, one of the most beautiful things I have seen as a Bills fan is the way Allen ducked away from the defender while keeping his eyes down field. He could sense pressure without having to turn and see it. That is a skill that has been consistently lacking in our long string of lackluster quarterbacks. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: Allen looks to be the elusive franchise QB we've been waiting for. Baldinger is right about the OLine, which needs to get squared away quickly. The guys he picked on - Ducasse, Dawkins, and Mills were all there last year. This is on Juan Castillo. Starting O-line was fine against Carolina. I wouldn't panic yet. See how they look against the Bengals. First game they will do a bit of game planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: The snap was early. Groy's mistake. He's messed up the snap count twice this preseason, maybe something to watch. That center (who snapped the ball early) looked like he was wearing 66, and that is Bodine. Who shouldn't be starting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: The qb can make the o line look good just like an o line can make a rb look good. If Allen can make some plays and make quick reads our o line will look better. Gonna be some ups and downs but if our defense can shore up that run d Allen won’t have to sling it 40 times I agree...this was the difference between Big Ben and JP in their rookie season...Big Ben was elusive and made ccurate throws that didn't require his OL to block all day for him. On the flip side for both JP and Trent Edwards, the line needed to protect them if they had to connect. The other aspect I see with Josh is his "anticipation". Something Tyrod could never do. A Offensive game plan like the Patriots is pre-determined on QB's anticipation of where a receiver is going to be and to throw before that...Tyrod refused to do that so many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, ganesh said: I agree...this was the difference between Big Ben and JP in their rookie season...Big Ben was elusive and made ccurate throws that didn't require his OL to block all day for him. On the flip side for both JP and Trent Edwards, the line needed to protect them if they had to connect. The other aspect I see with Josh is his "anticipation". Something Tyrod could never do. A Offensive game plan like the Patriots is pre-determined on QB's anticipation of where a receiver is going to be and to throw before that...Tyrod refused to do that so many times. Including last night. ? But seriously, how is Mills still employed? He looked like that the entire game against San Diego last year. I thought he did it on purpose because of Tyrod, but now I see he is just complete garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: The video clip was only 2:19 and it seems to cut off prematurely with Baldinger in mid-sentence. Does anyone know where to find the full video? If someone can post it that would be great. The original source for this material is not Twitter, is it? Yeah, I’d love to see the whole video too. I’ve been trying to find it myself with no luck so far. All I can find is the video posted above. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr02pica Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 C’mon guys and girls let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Allen has shown flashes and I’m very optimistic for the future with his arm under center...BUT it’s preseason and though he has shown flashes and that he’s learning he still has things to learn and improve on. I’m all for Picky Pete to start the season. He’s shown improvement and has been the more consistent passer this preseason. He elevated the third string today and was poised with the ones last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) I never thought a real life OL would look as atrocious as the linemen do in EA Sports Madden NFL, but our line proved me wrong. Edited August 19, 2018 by NewEraBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I'm wondering if part of the o-line's troubles have to do with the limited number of snaps Josh Allen has had with the top group of linemen. Maybe they just aren't as accustomed to his snap cadence as they are to AJ McCarron and Nate Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, TigerJ said: I'm wondering if part of the o-line's troubles have to do with the limited number of snaps Josh Allen has had with the top group of linemen. Maybe they just aren't as accustomed to his snap cadence as they are to AJ McCarron and Nate Peterman. No. Indecisiveness on who to block has nothing to do with the QB and everything to do with guys just not understanding how to apply what they were taught to what is happening in the game. It might be they don't understand what was trying to be taught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) What Baldy didn't mention in the short clip I watched was that Allen was going against the Browns 2nd string defense. ANNNND, Allen was sacked by an unblocked defender and was thrown to the ground on his head. The last thing Bills fans want to see is another Trent Edwards Arizona type concussion on Allen. That first string Cleveland defense hit AJ McCarron enough to knock him out for 8-10 weeks with a cracked collarbone. What a crap O-line!! What I also don't want to see is Josh Allen attempting to survive behind that craptastic O-line against the Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Packers, Texans defenses. I hope Beane can do some trades or pickups off the waiver wire that will help the Bills QB's make it through this season. Edited August 19, 2018 by Nihilarian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I'm wondering if part of the o-line's troubles have to do with the limited number of snaps Josh Allen has had with the top group of linemen. Maybe they just aren't as accustomed to his snap cadence as they are to AJ McCarron and Nate Peterman. Probably more a function of alternating centers instead of just sticking with Groy. And it seems apparent Ducasse is a zone blocker (last year's scheme). Get him out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Baldinger is one a very few former players I pay attention to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 6 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: He makes me yearn for the days of Carl Mauck. Or that guy who beat up teenagers over a chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Bring it said: This o-line looks exactly like it should when it’s leader has left and no one has stepped up to take over. I’m talking about E Wood of course. They need someone to take over and it usually has to be the center. Groy or Bodine? NOT good!! It was pretty bad last year, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Paulus said: It was pretty bad last year, too. They regressed from the season before for sure. Was it Ducasse or the Glenn injury? I’m not sure. Shady made them look good at times. They struggle much more in pass protect than the run. That speaks to lack of leadership when assignments are late or just plain missed! Maybe the new scheme needs more time. The run calls are much more varied now with Daboll. Some of these guys may never get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Might be missing Eric Wood (the OL Communicator) more than we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 They went from a power scheme under Kromer to a zone scheme last year per Dennision's desires That's why there was a drop-off and suddenly Miller looked like crap. They went back to zone this year but with the flux on the OL, it's been hard to jell and rotating centers IMHO wasn't a smart idea (they should have stuck with Groy from the get-go). Still I have to give them credit for dumping Dennison after just one season when it would have been far easier to keep the status quo and blame it all on TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 12 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: The snap was early. Groy's mistake. He's messed up the snap count twice this preseason, maybe something to watch. The OL struggled with communicating this game. I wonder if they were trying something new. Many mental mistakes. That's what you get when you're rotating QBs and C ... Would like to see a starter named immediately for both positions , regardless who it is .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Quite the manspread happening to start that video. I cannot unsee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 16 hours ago, NickelCity said: I hate Juan Castillo. I do as well, you never hear of players getting better because of his coaching. We have a few young prospects who could be a lot better with better OL coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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