BuffaloRush Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 So Zay Jones returned to practice today after a disappointing rookie year and an a bizarre incident in the off-season which cost him the entire OTA’s and the start of training camp. Question is - is Zay Jones a lock to make the roster. On one hand it seems like a no brained. He was a second round draft pick, and while he did fail to meeting expectations, he still is a higher pick. But while we can speculate, we have no idea what happened this off-season. There’s a good chance the Bills do and it could be worse than we expect. Also remember, Zay is not a Brandon Beane guy. He was drafted before Beane arrived, and while McDermott likely had a big hand in his selection, remember Beane has control of the 53. Then there’s the emergence of WR’s like Malachy Dupree, Cam Phillips, and Reuben Foster (to a lesser extent). One of two of those WR’s could conceivably take Zay’s roster. It seems like Kelvin Benjamin, and Jeremy Kerley are the locks in the roster. Everyone else seems to be muddled together fighting for one of 4 roster spots. I don’t think it’s likely that Zay doesn’t make the team, but I don’t think it’s a lock either. Curious to to hear your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Answer: Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I believe so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 WR is one of the positions where it takes longer to reach potential. In the grand scheme of things, Zay's rookie year was actually above average. He needs to show continuous improvement, but he is a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Yes , unless they have to put him on IR. He will be a Buffalo Bill for the next few years minimum!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Is this a real question? Of course he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Da Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Such a silly question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 He had a weak rookie season while battling injury and playing with a poor passing QB. Watch his college highlights again. The guy has serious talent. You don’t give up on that, especially while on a rookie contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Yes. Nobody is cutting a 2nd round pick they traded up for after one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: So Zay Jones returned to practice today after a disappointing rookie year and an a bizarre incident in the off-season which cost him the entire OTA’s and the start of training camp. Question is - is Zay Jones a lock to make the roster. On one hand it seems like a no brained. He was a second round draft pick, and while he did fail to meeting expectations, he still is a higher pick. But while we can speculate, we have no idea what happened this off-season. There’s a good chance the Bills do and it could be worse than we expect. Also remember, Zay is not a Brandon Beane guy. He was drafted before Beane arrived, and while McDermott likely had a big hand in his selection, remember Beane has control of the 53. Then there’s the emergence of WR’s like Malachy Dupree, Cam Phillips, and Reuben Foster (to a lesser extent). One of two of those WR’s could conceivably take Zay’s roster. It seems like Kelvin Benjamin, and Jeremy Kerley are the locks in the roster. Everyone else seems to be muddled together fighting for one of 4 roster spots. I don’t think it’s likely that Zay doesn’t make the team, but I don’t think it’s a lock either. Curious to to hear your thoughts. I think it depends upon how he comports himself and contributes now. 100% effort, he gets the benefit of the doubt. Any slacking or further nut-case-ness look for Beane to be talking up the trade Also check other thread, where 26CB has posted several good updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 No. I don't believe Zay is a lock. Do I think he is one of the favourites in the group battling for spots? Yes. Do I think he likely makes it? Yes. Lock? No. And the way McDermott and Beane both referred to him last week in different interviews leads me to believe that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 He's cheap for 4 years. He'll probably be here until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No. I don't believe Zay is a lock. Do I think he is one of the favourites in the group battling for spots? Yes. Do I think he likely makes it? Yes. Lock? No. And the way McDermott and Beane both referred to him last week in different interviews leads me to believe that. I’m with you on this. I think that some people are overestimating his security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Unfortunately, yes. Hope he improves because he's been extremely underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 FTR, I edited out one line from Ittakestime’s response as a warning that we won’t tolerate rude comments like ‘what a dumb question’. #civility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSince88' Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Hopefully he's able to put together a decent season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Druggies are always a risk of falling off the wagon. So, he isn't a lock..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: FTR, I edited out one line from Ittakestime’s response as a warning that we won’t tolerate rude comments like ‘what a dumb question’. #civility No problem... I can see why someone would think it’s a dumb question on paper, but I really don’t think he’s as much of a lock as some think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Druggies are always a risk of falling off the wagon. So, he isn't a lock..... .....well if you put it that way. Football performance based along with draft position makes him a lock. If Marcell Dareus was still on the team, in your scenario, he wouldn't be a lock either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I think he's safe unless he has another incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 100 percent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Lock. They are all in in their boys. 11 minutes ago, jr1 said: I think he's safe unless he has another incident Local media today asked him to elaborate on the issue and he side stepped that question referring to not wanting to rehash the truama associated with the issue. Seems like he is doing good, but you never know. 29 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: FTR, I edited out one line from Ittakestime’s response as a warning that we won’t tolerate rude comments like ‘what a dumb question’. #civility #theresnosuchthingasadumbquestion 26 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Druggies are always a risk of falling off the wagon. So, he isn't a lock..... I was 22 once too. If cameras were always on me, I coulda done a lot worse. Give him a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Druggies are always a risk of falling off the wagon. So, he isn't a lock..... There is always one !@#$ in the crowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 No. He’s going to be favored to make it, but a lock ? No way. That means he cannot possibly eff up enough to be traded or something else. Given his offseason and his ( brief) history of mental lapses , dropsies or whatever you call it he can’t be considered a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Oui. Nobody is a true lock, but he makes it. As for the druggie comment, I think we are advised to ignore ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Barring any unforeseen future breakdowns or discipline problems, he is absolutely a lock for the team. Teams just don't part with 2nd round picks in their 2nd year with the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Do you think the Bills can swing a deal with Montreal to get Manziel for Jones 'even steven'? If no, then Buffalo might as well keep him. I wonder how the 'new' Johnny Football would fit into Coach McDermott's regimented system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Do you think the Bills can swing a deal with Montreal to get Manziel for Jones 'even steven'? If no, then Buffalo might as well keep him. I wonder how the 'new' Johnny Football would fit into Coach McDermott's regimented system. The new Johnny Football is about the same as the old Johnny Football, minus the drinking. He sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, brianthomas said: Barring any unforeseen future breakdowns or discipline problems, he is absolutely a lock for the team. Teams just don't part with 2nd round picks in their 2nd year with the team Barring any “ unforeseen ... problems” wasn’t the question. Could a Zay Jones problem now be considered “ unforeseen”? Due to his issues last season coupled with his offseason, he’s not a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Barring any “ unforeseen ... problems” wasn’t the question. Could a Zay Jones problem now be considered “ unforeseen”? Due to his issues last season coupled with his offseason, he’s not a lock. Any unknown that happens in the future that we don't know about is unforeseen. I prefaced my statement with that because as it stands now, he's a lock to make the team. If something else happens, then they'd have to factor it into their decision & evaluate whats best for the team at that point. This whole thread is about predicting what will happen in the future. Given who our WR corps is right now, unless something happens he makes the team. Does that make more sense to you now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 He's a lock to still be employed by the Bills. If he's struggling I could see the team stashing him away for a while on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Just now, brianthomas said: Any unknown that happens in the future that we don't know about is unforeseen. I prefaced my statement with that because as it stands now, he's a lock to make the team. If something else happens, then they'd have to factor it into their decision & evaluate whats best for the team at that point. This whole thread is about predicting what will happen in the future. Given who our WR corps is right now, unless something happens he makes the team. Does that make more sense to you now? Lol, I know what unforeseen means. But I’ll stand by my statement that any further issues with Jones may no longer qualify as unforeseen due to his past. I’ll agree that teams rarely move on from 2nd round picks in year two, but Jones just may be a different case, as we know. Therefore , he can’t be considered a “ lock”. He’s not exactly a 4 year vet with good production and a squeaky clean track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Just now, Albany,n.y. said: He's a lock to still be employed by the Bills. If he's struggling I could see the team stashing him away for a while on IR. Not without a legitimate injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 He's a lock because there is no reason to give up on him already. He's on a cheap contract, young, and was a second round pick. Don't just throw him away. Especially with new QBs he might develop a connection with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I'd be surprised if he were cut, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on IR or the PUP list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said: He's a lock to still be employed by the Bills. If he's struggling I could see the team stashing him away for a while on IR. We don’t know with these guys in charge. The Whaley years are clearly over. Now, Jones wasn’t a Whaley guy so he’s got that going for him...which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Just now, frostbitmic said: I'd be surprised if he were cut, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on IR or the PUP list. He was just activated from NFI. What would be the reason to be on PUP or IR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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