Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Allen is going to be amazing, and all the nannerbobs of negativity out there are going to eat your deep-fried crow with a side of shut the hell up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Why does Buffalo have the worst media in all of sports? UGh! I live in Florida and try to get news on my Bills. I hate those guys. The worst. They are useless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I've been wishing for Shopp and the Bulldog to get to that below average level for quite a while now instead of being downright awful. Don't you mean "routing"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 5 hours ago, USABuffaloFan said: Sorry but when the Voice of the Bills station is actively routing for 2-3 QB's to be average so they can see what the 1st pick can do to prove that it was a bad pick is nothing but double negatives to get to WHAT? That is the exact scenario happening at WGR! Not all host's feel this way but it is a predominant thought happening on our radio station. What happen to routing for Bills success? What happened to realizing Bills made a move to better the chance the Bills get there "Franchise QB" by pushing all candidates with a arm, with great intangibles, success, with a man that drops footballs a mile away into 50 gallon drums. I am not being funny, I want to find a franchise QB from you, if you want to try out. The bottom line is we are better off with a complete open competition and let these 20-27 year old guys punch each other in the mouth proving they want the job. They are teammates but right now each want the job. If I had these skills I can tell you right now, I would win this job!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you have an idea as to what time you were listening to the show yesterday? I really need to hear this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I hope AJ is lights out for 11 games, gets hurt (nothing major), Allen is lights out for the last 5 and carries us into a playoff win. Then we trade AJ for a 1st round pick after the season. Best case scenario IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 To be fair, we have two 5th round picks and an unknown 1st round pick. All 3 could potentially be terrible. I think aj or Peterman win the job this year and Im fine with either of them. I still have a special place in my heart for Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep2Moulds46 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Actual context is important.. They were discussing when Josh Allen should play. They said ideally AJ McCarron or Nate Peterman will at least be good enough that the team feels ok with leaving Allen on the bench until the coaches feel he's ready. Then they said if McCarron at least shows to be an average starting QB, the Bills might be able to trade him next off-season for some decent value given his low cap figure and the lack of a QB market next year compared to this year. Context is important 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, Deep2Moulds46 said: Actual context is important.. They were discussing when Josh Allen should play. They said ideally AJ McCarron or Nate Peterman will at least be good enough that the team feels ok with leaving Allen on the bench until the coaches feel he's ready. Then they said if McCarron at least shows to be an average starting QB, the Bills might be able to trade him next off-season for some decent value given his low cap figure and the lack of a QB market next year compared to this year. Context is important I really feel the reason most people hate on Schopp and the Bulldog, are people who only listen for 5-10 minutes. They don't know what was being discussed prior to turning on the show, or after they turn it off. A lot of their callers listen to the show for 5 minutes, and call in. And that makes them angry, because the caller accuses the hosts of saying things they didn't say, or missed the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 6 hours ago, USABuffaloFan said: You disagree? With your spelling? Hell yes. Its "Rooting". Your 3rd grade English teacher is in tears reading this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 If Zay Jones is average in routing it will be a significant improvement! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Ill tell you one thing: I find it fascinating that so many of you have strong opinions about Bulldog and Shopp but yet never listen to them. Just admit it: We listen. And listen regularly. What other real options do Buffalo sports fans have? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Like A Mofo said: Ill tell you one thing: I find it fascinating that so many of you have strong opinions about Bulldog and Shopp but yet never listen to them. Just admit it: We listen. And listen regularly. What other real options do Buffalo sports fans have? The 3-7 pm show was entertaining when Greg Bauch was the producer. Not even close since his departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I've heard seeing as i no longer live in the Buffalo area that a lot of people didn't like the pick of Allen & i am skeptical but i hope all the negativity drives the kid to prove all the nay sayers wrong ! I believe in McBean & hope they saw something that the expertise of this fan base & sports talk show hosts didn't or can't see & uses that as a huge amount of motivation . The best way he can make a name for himself is have them all jump on the wagon he is pulling which is far from full at the moment ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I listen to WGR via their app utilizing the on-demand portion. I mostly listen to Sal Capacio and guests that interest me. I can NOT imagine anyone actually listening to them when they do not have the option to forward past innane conversations and their "hot takes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Gr sucks. Need competition again. Schoop is unlistenable. Thinks he is better and smarter than everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, njbuff said: People in Buffalo still listen to those two rodeo clowns? Is sports radio that bad up there? I heart radio is your friend. somewhat sadly, yes......they live in their own bubble and are not good enough to be rude/combative with their callers (assuming, of course, the caller is not insane) Edited May 2, 2018 by BuffaninATL additional thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I hope mccarron is average at least. If he is we make the playoffs again imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 put down the alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Honestly, what is Dalton? An above average starter in this league? IMO McCarron falls somewhere under wherever Dalton sits on the scale. He likely won't be better, as otherwise he would be starting for the Bengals. How much worse is the matter up for interpretation. Personally I see him as an average starter. Good enough to hold down the fort until Allen is either ready or becomes clear that he is not the answer (Hopefully the former). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, HiddenInLight said: Honestly, what is Dalton? An above average starter in this league? IMO McCarron falls somewhere under wherever Dalton sits on the scale. He likely won't be better, as otherwise he would be starting for the Bengals. How much worse is the matter up for interpretation. Personally I see him as an average starter. Good enough to hold down the fort until Allen is either ready or becomes clear that he is not the answer (Hopefully the former). Dalton was excellent in 2015 (when he had the supporting cast), average in 2016, and below average in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 7 hours ago, USABuffaloFan said: Yes I fall into that but what other station should I be listening to for Bills stuff living in Orlando. I get WGR streaming all day while on the road. You don't have much of a choice. But John Murphy is 100 times better than those two clowns. Of course, he's still not great and people around here call him a homer, but he's better than those two guys. Also, Sal Capaccio is pretty good. Those guys are on WGR as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: Dalton was excellent in 2015 (when he had the supporting cast), average in 2016, and below average in 2017. Whatever Dalton is, personally I don't watch enough of him to know, AJ is somewhere lower on the spectrum. Otherwise he would be their starter and Dalton would be the one on another team. 1 minute ago, MJS said: You don't have much of a choice. But John Murphy is 100 times better than those two clowns. Of course, he's still not great and people around here call him a homer, but he's better than those two guys. Also, Sal Capaccio is pretty good. Those guys are on WGR as well. With Steve Tasker on the show it's become one giant Bills circle jerk. Hard to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Lfod said: Well I'm just hoping on some other teams back up being better then average for the Bills. Dejavu. Then if AJ sucks I might be counting on a rookie to save the day. Dejavu. That's called the NFL. It's what every single team does when they don't have a franchise guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, HiddenInLight said: Whatever Dalton is, personally I don't watch enough of him to know, AJ is somewhere lower on the spectrum. Otherwise he would be their starter and Dalton would be the one on another team. Over the past 3 years I've got him T-17th out of the 39 qualifying QBs . Tied with Bortles, and just below Alex Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, HiddenInLight said: Honestly, what is Dalton? An above average starter in this league? IMO McCarron falls somewhere under wherever Dalton sits on the scale. He likely won't be better, as otherwise he would be starting for the Bengals. How much worse is the matter up for interpretation. Personally I see him as an average starter. Good enough to hold down the fort until Allen is either ready or becomes clear that he is not the answer (Hopefully the former). You could argue that when Dalton got the huge contract he was playing regardless of what McCarron could do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I mean I’m not really that excited about AJ. I mean he could totally surprise us but he is probably a backup type qb who was really good in college. He will take the early lumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) I for one would love Allen to start and beat out Mccaron for the opening job as that would be a great sign for the future. But if he doesn't, then let's hope Mccaron lights it up. Allen is the future, so if Mccaron plays well, then you have some serious trade value for 2019 as he has a very low base salary Edited May 2, 2018 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 29 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: You could argue that when Dalton got the huge contract he was playing regardless of what McCarron could do You could argue that no sane coach/gm/team would field their second best guy just because he's getting paid more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 If I ever had the money or clout, I would start a sports radio station to compete with these losers. The city and the sports fans deserve better. Too many fans are brainwashed by these negative nancys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Steptide said: To be fair, we have two 5th round picks and an unknown 1st round pick. All 3 could potentially be terrible. I think aj or Peterman win the job this year and Im fine with either of them. I still have a special place in my heart for Peterman Are you a defensive back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 When returning from a high level business meeting, it occurred to me that WGR has been largely un-listenable for quite a while. Outside of Sal, it's largely just bitching followed by a seemingly endless stream of commercials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) I haven’t listened to those guys in more than a decade. I never really had a problem with the unpopular opinions they may or may not have had. My issue was they would not talk about sports enough. Entire segments and somtimes entire shows dedicated to non-sports related nonsense. This on a station that billed itself as “all sports all the time”. Maybe they have change in that time but I doubt it. Edited May 2, 2018 by Leonhart2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Like A Mofo said: Ill tell you one thing: I find it fascinating that so many of you have strong opinions about Bulldog and Shopp but yet never listen to them. Just admit it: We listen. And listen regularly. What other real options do Buffalo sports fans have? I listen to WGR all day (9-5 PST) from here on the west coast. I don’t have one issue with Schoop or Bulldog. They’re entertaining. There are MUCH worse people to listen to. The hockey show WGR has in the morning comes to mind. It’s awful. I don’t turn WGR on until 9am because of them. Edited May 2, 2018 by Jay_Fixit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 9 hours ago, USABuffaloFan said: You disagree? ROOTING not routing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: You don't even live in Buffalo and you're listening? ??? This is like saying you don't live in Buffalo, you're not from Buffalo, why are you a Bills fan? I guess I should just become a fan of another team? 6 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Thurmond #1, I agree if someone doesn’t like a show, they shouldn’t listen, but whether someone lives in Buffalo is irrelevant. I grew up on South Park Ave., and moved away as an adult for better opportunities. That doesn’t mean I don’t love my Bills will still listen toWgr when it is related to the Bills Agreed. I have zero family connections to Buffalo. Only been to Buffalo once for a home opener. Still a fan though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 9 hours ago, USABuffaloFan said: Yes I fall into that but what other station should I be listening to for Bills stuff living in Orlando. I get WGR streaming all day while on the road. But AJ doesn't have too suck. He is a 2 times NCAA football Champion. Had a 36-4 record at Alabama, in 2015 when Dalton went down end of year took team 2-1 into a not guaranteed playoff spot and almost won the playoff game, is a 4 time backup to a pretty good starter in Dalton. McCarron is a 65% completion plus QB with at least 2500 yards a year or more as a full time starter.Allen does not have these numbers, not cutting him down. Lets see what Allen shows McCarron and Peterman what a top arm looks like and lets see Allen watch McCarron under pressure make all the important throws!!!!! It would be great if McCarron was the answer, although there hasn't been a franchise QB from that program since 1966- Kenny Stabler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’m convinced they have blackmail photos of someone at Entercom. As two dudes that probably never played meaningful sports in their lives, it’s surprising they can fill any air time at all on the topic. folks who get mad at their opinions need to understand its not based on analysis and may even be outlined or scripted for them. If you want evidence about their their ignorance of sport, they claimed to like and know hockey the most. They cried over and over for the Sabres to tank for Eichel and for Bylsma as a coach. Both turned out epic failures. I’ve not listened but I’m guesing they never owned that. Since you live elswhere, just enjoy the Cellino and Barnes and yancys fancy commercials as a touch of Home, and realize they are your gambling elderly nieghbor and drunk cousin in law that ramble on about nothing 3-4 hours a day, with some mild focus on buffalo sports. Basically what I do, the commercials are awesome! 7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They are going to need to pay a toll for their routing. OPPS 6 hours ago, HamSandwhich said: Don't you mean "routing"? I would fix that but I think I like these posts the best. I am Grout! 6 hours ago, wagon127 said: Do you have an idea as to what time you were listening to the show yesterday? I really need to hear this. Believe it was around 4pm just before Brandon stuff came on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Deep2Moulds46 said: Actual context is important.. They were discussing when Josh Allen should play. They said ideally AJ McCarron or Nate Peterman will at least be good enough that the team feels ok with leaving Allen on the bench until the coaches feel he's ready. Then they said if McCarron at least shows to be an average starting QB, the Bills might be able to trade him next off-season for some decent value given his low cap figure and the lack of a QB market next year compared to this year. Context is important They went farther than that, they were gleeful in the idea so Allen would take the job, often seem to want Buffalo to be average or worse so they get better draft status. Both are not locked into Allen either and seem to rather assume he will flop to. I listen while at work all the time streaming from phone with bluetooth earpiece. Tasker at least acknowledges the players ups and downs. He definitely doesn't root for failure. It is their mocking tone that tilts what they are saying. 5 hours ago, matter2003 said: With your spelling? Hell yes. Its "Rooting". Your 3rd grade English teacher is in tears reading this. I believe she is probably dead by now. Never got the young pretty teachers always the old geezers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, USABuffaloFan said: Sorry but when the Voice of the Bills station is actively routing for 2-3 QB's to be average so they can see what the 1st pick can do to prove that it was a bad pick is nothing but double negatives to get to WHAT? That is the exact scenario happening at WGR! Not all host's feel this way but it is a predominant thought happening on our radio station. What happen to routing for Bills success? What happened to realizing Bills made a move to better the chance the Bills get there "Franchise QB" by pushing all candidates with a arm, with great intangibles, success, with a man that drops footballs a mile away into 50 gallon drums. I am not being funny, I want to find a franchise QB from you, if you want to try out. The bottom line is we are better off with a complete open competition and let these 20-27 year old guys punch each other in the mouth proving they want the job. They are teammates but right now each want the job. If I had these skills I can tell you right now, I would win this job!!!!!!!!!!!!! Would you say, Schopp, and Bulldog are rooting for AJ to be Meaty Oaker? Edited May 2, 2018 by Captain Murica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 4 hours ago, aceman_16 said: I listen to WGR via their app utilizing the on-demand portion. I mostly listen to Sal Capacio and guests that interest me. I can NOT imagine anyone actually listening to them when they do not have the option to forward past innane conversations and their "hot takes." I like the Buffalo commercials, touch of home. I am using working on equipment or driving and it keeps me from falling asleep yelling at them, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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