Richie Incognito Retires Via Twitter - Now Confirmed

[SoCal Deek]

I would add Shady to the Term Life Policy!!

[CommonCents]

Someone should be checking on this guy.

[aristocrat]

so did he get any money from the bills already and is he gonna have to pay that back?  he might rethink in a few days

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, aristocrat said:

so did he get any money from the bills already and is he gonna have to pay that back?  he might rethink in a few days

Yes, he will. He should have refused the pay cut and asked to be released. 

[rodneykm]

1 minute ago, Commonsense said:

Someone should be checking on this guy.

 

Seriously, something is not right with him today. I hope someone is checking in on him. 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

4 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

Someone should be checking on this guy.

As I mentioned earlier, he might be bipolar.  If so, he could change his mind.

[Best Player Available]

1 hour ago, PIP said:

Thanks Richie wait until free agency has dried up then retire WTF? Wonder if he received any up front cash for signing the contract?  

I think he recieved 1M up front. He most likely owes that too the team after he files papers. 

[KD in CA]

Man, that sucks.   Thanks RI, you'll be missed.

[IDBillzFan]

20 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

If I were one of these quarterbacks in this years draft I'd be so excited to play for the Bills; throwing to ghosts and blocking supplied by ether.

 

Plus you get to live in Buffalo, so there's that, too. 

 

You know what? This is kind of ridiculous. Most first-round quarterbacks know they are going to less-than-stellar locations because, y'know, the crappiest teams typically are up top..

 

But if you are even remotely confident of your ability to as a quarterback in the NFL, and you know you're likely going to a crappy team, why would you NOT want to be where the city and fans are every bit as rabid as the university you're leaving? 

 

If you can be a successful quarterback in places like Buffalo or Green Bay, the impact you can make for those towns and fans is immeasurable.

[turftoe]

2 hours ago, NoSaint said:

 

Yea and those players around the league deserve that money back in the free agent pool, not Ritchie’s pocket

Bologna! A guy renegotiates his contract and gets a $1M check and a couple weeks later he retires. It's totally in bad faith and the Bills have every right to get it back. I think the Bills look worse if they do nothing.

[MrEpsYtown]

3 hours ago, turftoe said:

 

Yep I know Peters was good, but my point was that he took him to the next level.

 

3 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

I wonder what happened with Miller then. 

 

Not sure. It is weird. He doesn't seem to fit the type of lineman Castillo typically worked with. Miller is small, slow, and unathletic, which kind of makes him pretty average at best. But he is a great fit for a power type scheme like the one Roman ran. He is very strong. 

 

He could technically play the left side as he has a ton of experience both left and right from his time at Louisville.  To me he really is just an overdrafted Whaley special. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

20 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Yep I know Peters was good, but my point was that he took him to the next level.

 

 

Not sure. It is weird. He doesn't seem to fit the type of lineman Castillo typically worked with. Miller is small, slow, and unathletic, which kind of makes him pretty average at best. But he is a great fit for a power type scheme like the one Roman ran. He is very strong. 

 

He could technically play the left side as he has a ton of experience both left and right from his time at Louisville.  To me he really is just an overdrafted Whaley special. 

 

...may not be the preeminent football site, but  how did he go from this to the outhouse??...........

 

That progression has been noticed by the analysts at Pro Football Focus, naming Miller as the most-improved second-year player in the NFL by their grading system.

1. John Miller, G, Buffalo Bills

2015 overall grade: 38.7

2016 overall grade: 77.8

Now firmly entrenched as the Bills’ starting RG, Miller’s rookie season was one to forget, plagued by nagging injuries that had an effect on his play, in particular his run blocking. Bills running backs averaged only 3.9 yards per carry rushing in his direction, and his run-blocking grade ranked 84th among guards, with Miller perhaps struggling to adjust to such a diverse rushing attack. He turned it around in 2016, however, shooting up to 24th among guards in terms of PFF grade as a run blocker, missing only 18 snaps. Overall, he made the step up to a solid, dependable player, with his grade improving from a dismal 38.7 to 77.8.

Edited April 10, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[MrEpsYtown]

2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...may not be the preeminent football site, but  how did he go from this to the outhouse??...........

 

That progression has been noticed by the analysts at Pro Football Focus, naming Miller as the most-improved second-year player in the NFL by their grading system.

1. John Miller, G, Buffalo Bills

2015 overall grade: 38.7

2016 overall grade: 77.8

Now firmly entrenched as the Bills’ starting RG, Miller’s rookie season was one to forget, plagued by nagging injuries that had an effect on his play, in particular his run blocking. Bills running backs averaged only 3.9 yards per carry rushing in his direction, and his run-blocking grade ranked 84th among guards, with Miller perhaps struggling to adjust to such a diverse rushing attack. He turned it around in 2016, however, shooting up to 24th among guards in terms of PFF grade as a run blocker, missing only 18 snaps. Overall, he made the step up to a solid, dependable player, with his grade improving from a dismal 38.7 to 77.8.

 

I think it is just mostly scheme change and I think he was injured a bit. I still think his ceiling is very low,  but I don't understand why they would not give him a shot over Vlad. 

 

It sounds like Castillo is very demanding and meticulous on how he wants things done. Perhaps Miller didn't want to change, or perhaps he simply couldn't do it. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Just now, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I think it is just mostly scheme change and I think he was injured a bit. I still think his ceiling is very low,  but I don't understand why they would not give him a shot over Vlad. 

 

It sounds like Castillo is very demanding and meticulous on how he wants things done. Perhaps Miller didn't want to change, or perhaps he simply couldn't do it. 

 

...interesting perspective....thanks bud...........

[dave mcbride]

2 hours ago, Tyrod's friend said:

 

I'm ready. 
Point out to me anyplace where I have even remotely suggested that we not go after a QB or that I've said that an OG is anywhere near the value of a team to a QB.

You are the only one having that conversation, Chicken. There are roughly six, possibly as many as seven QBs that are not terribly different in Grades. You just blew a hole in your offensive line, with a bandaid called Bodine that was meant to cover the last hole. All I am saying, all I've ever said, is that at this point, there are priorities. You can get a roughly equivilant talent for QB in the second round that you can get at 12 or even 22. Don't take my word for it; read Gunnar's analysis. Look at the ranking at NFL.com. I'm not making this sh!t up. There simply isn't that much difference between a lot of these guys and you'll be passing on nearly all of the Tier One positional talent available this year. And just to make sure everyone knows, this isn't JUST THE YEAR OF THE QB. There's a ton of other good players here. 

I've never said NOT to move up, but the world has changed this morning. If you can simply give Richie $1.25 MM or $2.5 MM and make this problem go away, I'd support that decision by 1BD. In a heart beat.

End of the day, sit at 12 or nearly so. If by some miracle Sam Darnold/Josh Rosen/Baker Mayfield you bust the move. But #2 should be out of the conversation at this point.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/03/sports/elway-traded-to-broncos-by-colts.html

 

Chris Hinton made 6 pro bowls for the Colts at LT. The 1984 first rounder they received from Denver - Ron Solt - made the pro bowl for the Colts as an offensive guard. They traded him to Philly in late 1988 because of a contract dispute and got Philly's first rounder in '89 and a 4th rounder in '90. With that 1989 first rounder, they took Andre Rison. They traded Rison a year later as part of a package deal with Atlanta to get the number one overall pick, Jeff George.

 

From 1983 to 1998, the Colts never won 10 games.

Denver, despite giving up two first round picks that turned out to be pro bowl offensive linemen, had a good run with Elway. Franchise qbs are 15-year investments. Worrying about the line situation for this year or the next is a waste of time. Whoever they take will likely be sitting for much or all of his rookie season anyway.

Edited April 10, 2018 by dave mcbride

[Punching Bag]

7 hours ago, FluffHead said:

@viccarruci: @68INCOGNITO just told me the following: "I'm, done. That's it. It's been a long career. Went to the doctor. My liver and kidneys are shutting down. The stress is killing me. It's just about doing what's right. I just want to be in the Hall of Fame." Full story to come.

 

He LOVES playing football but liver and kidneys are shutting down due to stress; it appears the contract and whatever his agent advised was causing the stress not playing football.  Think if the give him a no contact camp, only use him in one or two preseason games and resolve the contract thing even if it means extending contract a year or two to spread out money this would resolve issues as long as issue is not forced medical retirement of his friend.

[Tyrod's friend]

6 hours ago, horned dogs said:

I can't imagine some of the overreactors are decision makers of any type. They run around making thoughtless, emotional responses like junior high girls trying to decide what to wear. SMH

First, I'm anything but thoughtless. If I post something it's likely I re-wrote it several times and more often that not you'd find that I edited my comments. It's because I am anything but thoughtless. I have a reason for the things I post and I'm not prone to backing down because I have thought them out. (this particular day I was hasty, but I had thought out the parameters long ago.) You know, a funny thing about my "overreaction" - ESPN later asked the same question I did. 

Second, by all means continue with ad hominem attacks on myself and others - it puts you in great company. It shows off your own deep thoughts and the overall level of creative and thought provoking posts we all count on from you. I'm sure you have great observations. 

Third, I don't generally bring my personal life to this forum. I don't know what you do for a living but I'm sure your life is very challenged. Suffice to say I am compensated extremely well for successfully competing at a very high level, requiring nearly daily, split-second decisions. And you know what? I rarely find myself checking out what to wear in advance. But if you'd like to compare 1099's I'm open; table stakes to play in the game are pretty high though. 

Finally, even when I don't agree with posters I try to give their posts the respect their time deserves. Not always successful and sometimes my emotion gets the better of me.

Cheers,
Alex

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

6 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:

First, I'm anything but thoughtless. If I post something it's likely I re-wrote it several times and more often that not you'd find that I edited my comments. It's because I am anything but thoughtless. I have a reason for the things I post and I'm not prone to backing down because I have thought them out. (this particular day I was hasty, but I had thought out the parameters long ago.) You know, a funny thing about my "overreaction" - ESPN later asked the same question I did. 

Second, by all means continue with ad hominem attacks on myself and others - it puts you in great company. It shows off your own deep thoughts and the overall level of creative and thought provoking posts we all count on from you. I'm sure you have great observations. 

Third, I don't generally bring my personal life to this forum. I don't know what you do for a living but I'm sure your life is very challenged. Suffice to say I am compensated extremely well for successfully competing at a very high level, requiring nearly daily, split-second decisions. And you know what? I rarely find myself checking out what to wear in advance. But if you'd like to compare 1099's I'm open; table stakes to play in the game are pretty high though. 

Finally, even when I don't agree with posters I try to give their posts the respect their time deserves. Not always successful and sometimes my emotion gets the better of me.

Cheers,
Alex

 

Dude wtf.

I guess you must feel like you represent all the overreactors. More power to you and I hope you feel better. still smh

 

If you want to wear it all be my guess, but panicking never works.

Edited April 10, 2018 by horned dogs

[Tyrod's friend]

40 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/03/sports/elway-traded-to-broncos-by-colts.html

 

Chris Hinton made 6 pro bowls for the Colts at LT. The 1984 first rounder they received from Denver - Ron Solt - made the pro bowl for the Colts as an offensive guard. They traded him to Philly in late 1988 because of a contract dispute and got Philly's first rounder in '89 and a 4th rounder in '90. With that 1989 first rounder, they took Andre Rison. They traded Rison a year later as part of a package deal with Atlanta to get the number one overall pick, Jeff George.

 

From 1983 to 1998, the Colts never won 10 games.

Denver, despite giving up two first round picks that turned out to be pro bowl offensive linemen, had a good run with Elway. Franchise qbs are 15-year investments. Worrying about the line situation for this year or the next is a waste of time. Whoever they take will likely be sitting for much or all of his rookie season anyway.

Good post and a good example. Not 100% sure that I think a 1983 situation is applicable (a special year), and I think there are choices to show that thrusting a QB behind a bad offensive line falls apart to never recover. I don't know the Jeff George experience specifically and can't speak about his line, but since you brought him up I know he was sacked 56 times his second year on the way to a 1-15 record. And as you say, he was a #1 pick; why is his example less important than the success of John Elway?

I don't know that a franchise QB is a 15 year investment anymore as well. Kirk Cousins new contract reads out to me like a new paradigm; let's just see of Matt Ryan or Aaron Rodgers resigns with their teams and if they do, how long they sign a contract. 

But your post certainly made me think I might be wrong.

Cheers.

[Freddie's Dead]

I was probably the most vehement anti-Richard guy here when he joined the Bills.  He has won me over since then by balling like a mofo, keeping his nose clean, and being a leader in the locker room.  I was surprised the Bills asked him to take a pay cut, and even more surprised that he accepted it.  He has been, BY FAR, the best OL on the Bills for the last three years.  While the Bills may have done him a solid by initially picking him up, he has more than paid them back with his performance both on and off the field.  This was a controversy that didn't need to be started.  I don't know why McBeane decided to stiff Richard, of all people.  But if you go out to www.spotrac.com, and look at what the Bills are paying their OL, it becomes clear why the Bills OL blows as badly as it does.  Other than Richard, every guy is making less than $2M/yr.  So I guess the Bills felt they needed to go after their highest-paid lineman.  NEVER MIND THAT HE'S EARNED EVERY PENNY.  I'm really scratching my head at this move by McBeane.  Our OL right now is a hot mess.

Edited April 10, 2018 by Freddie's Dead

[Augie]

This is awful news.....on so many levels.  

[WotAGuy]

When my liver and kidneys started to fail, I didn’t quit my job, I just quit drinking. Dumbass. ?

Edited April 10, 2018 by WotAGuy

[Nitro]

Health is paramount.  Wish him well and hope his health improves.  Bills might need to keep the picks and address the holes on the roster.  

 

[Augie]

26 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

When my liver and kidneys started to fail, I didn’t quit my job, I just quit drinking. Dumbass. ?

 

Could it be PED’s that make him even capable of playing at that level? That was my first thought, but I admit to my ignorance here. Remember all the Steelers old linemen.....who are now dead? I know things have come a long way in a few decades of cheating, but I’m not sure what to think. Bottom line is I wish him well and hope he lives a long and healthy life. As I do all (or at least most) of you! 

 

 

 

 

OK, I kid, I kid.  

 

Thank you and be well, Richie. 

[Mr. WEO]

7 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Could it be PED’s that make him even capable of playing at that level? That was my first thought, but I admit to my ignorance here. Remember all the Steelers old linemen.....who are now dead? I know things have come a long way in a few decades of cheating, but I’m not sure what to think. Bottom line is I wish him well and hope he lives a long and healthy life. As I do all (or at least most) of you! 

 

 

 

 

OK, I kid, I kid.  

 

Thank you and be well, Richie. 

 

 

Barring major trauma, sepsis or massive heart attack, you don't just wake up one day and realize "my liver and kidneys are failing".

 

He's nuts.  He just "FIRED" himself on Twitter.  Accept it.

[NoSaint]

3 hours ago, turftoe said:

Bologna! A guy renegotiates his contract and gets a $1M check and a couple weeks later he retires. It's totally in bad faith and the Bills have every right to get it back. I think the Bills look worse if they do nothing.

 

I was agreeing. Ritchie walks with it and some other player can’t get that money in a contract.

 

31 other teams would pursue it and any guy trying to get paid should be upset if Ritchie walks out the door with that money was my point 

[PirateHookerMD]

2 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

He LOVES playing football but liver and kidneys are shutting down due to stress; it appears the contract and whatever his agent advised was causing the stress not playing football.  Think if the give him a no contact camp, only use him in one or two preseason games and resolve the contract thing even if it means extending contract a year or two to spread out money this would resolve issues as long as issue is not forced medical retirement of his friend.

 

As a doc, "liver and kidneys shutting down over stress" makes no sense. Odd off season for Richie. 

Edited April 11, 2018 by PirateHookerMD

[Punching Bag]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/lesean-mccoy-offers-incognito-a-crazy-amount-of-money-to-keep-him-from-retiring/

LeSean McCoy offers Incognito a crazy amount of money to keep him from retiring

Shortly after Richie Incognito announced that he was going to retire on Tuesday, McCoy took to Instagram to try and bribe his former teammate out of retirement, and by bribe, I mean he offered him $300,000. However, the offer did come with one catch: McCoy has to rush for at least 1,500 yards next season before Incognito can collect.

Maybe McCoy needs to start a ufundme collection

 

"Wait wait NOO!! [Eric] Wood and you ... listen 1500 yards I'll give u 300k CASH .. my favorite WHITE BOY EVER CANT retire lol... love u dog," McCoy wrote.

I wonder if this is legal with NFL contract rules and wonder if Cam Newton was going to retire if RB Christian McCaffrey could post same kind of thing with race included in instagram would he get backlash?

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[KDIGGZ]

I feel like he's having a temper tantrum. He just wants someone to want him. If a team came offering a multi year deal he would un-retire so fast. Maybe we can find a team interested and get some trade compensation for him

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, kdiggz said:

I feel like he's having a temper tantrum. He just wants someone to want him. If a team came offering a multi year deal he would un-retire so fast. Maybe we can find a team interested and get some trade compensation for him

 

He's a few steps away from the Bills' Reserve/Retired List.

[Punching Bag]

1 minute ago, kdiggz said:

I feel like he's having a temper tantrum. He just wants someone to want him. If a team came offering a multi year deal he would un-retire so fast. Maybe we can find a team interested and get some trade compensation for him

 

Well the front office has proven last year they will not just let players unretire to play for someone else.

[Doc]

Must be that TB12 method killing his liver and kidneys.

Edited April 11, 2018 by Doc

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/03/sports/elway-traded-to-broncos-by-colts.html

 

Chris Hinton made 6 pro bowls for the Colts at LT. The 1984 first rounder they received from Denver - Ron Solt - made the pro bowl for the Colts as an offensive guard. They traded him to Philly in late 1988 because of a contract dispute and got Philly's first rounder in '89 and a 4th rounder in '90. With that 1989 first rounder, they took Andre Rison. They traded Rison a year later as part of a package deal with Atlanta to get the number one overall pick, Jeff George.

 

From 1983 to 1998, the Colts never won 10 games.

Denver, despite giving up two first round picks that turned out to be pro bowl offensive linemen, had a good run with Elway. Franchise qbs are 15-year investments. Worrying about the line situation for this year or the next is a waste of time. Whoever they take will likely be sitting for much or all of his rookie season anyway.

 

This guy gets it.

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

This guy gets it.

 

While the point about a rookie QB mostly sitting (if the team chooses) and making the OL moot is a good one, how can we be sure they'd be trading up for Elway and not Jeff George?

[dollars 2 donuts]

5 hours ago, LABillzFan said:

 

You know what? This is kind of ridiculous. Most first-round quarterbacks know they are going to less-than-stellar locations because, y'know, the crappiest teams typically are up top..

 

But if you are even remotely confident of your ability to as a quarterback in the NFL, and you know you're likely going to a crappy team, why would you NOT want to be where the city and fans are every bit as rabid as the university you're leaving? 

 

If you can be a successful quarterback in places like Buffalo or Green Bay, the impact you can make for those towns and fans is immeasurable.

 

 

LA, because people want long careers with great high paying contracts after their rookie deals expire.  They know they will go to losing teams, but it sucks if you go to a team and your head gets caved in like a Florida sink hole because (john doe) at left whatever is still "figuring things out" and the receiver you just hit between the numbers is suffering from the whoopsy-daisys.

 

i love this city (born, raised, and still living here) and I love this team (long enough to be in attendance when OJ was running for TDs at Rich, pre-murders), but nobody looks forward to that at the start of their career, and nobody...nobody hopes for it.

[Punching Bag]

Maybe Ritchie has inside information that Bills will be trading all of their 1st, 2nd & 3rd round picks plus next year's 1st and is getting out early.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

9 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Yep I know Peters was good, but my point was that he took him to the next level.

 

 

Not sure. It is weird. He doesn't seem to fit the type of lineman Castillo typically worked with. Miller is small, slow, and unathletic, which kind of makes him pretty average at best. But he is a great fit for a power type scheme like the one Roman ran. He is very strong. 

 

He could technically play the left side as he has a ton of experience both left and right from his time at Louisville.  To me he really is just an overdrafted Whaley special. 

I think he was living up to his draft status his first 2 yrs. Especially in 2016 he was really good . Maybe Castillo doesn't like him much but now that were going bk to power he can slide right bk in at RG

[YoloinOhio]

Richie favorited this tweet

 

[ALF]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Hope he is just relieved to be retired and can work on getting healthy. He was great for the last 3 years here , I like the guy and wish him well.