Richie Incognito Retires Via Twitter - Now Confirmed

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

I kinda doubt that

 

The public record does not support your doubt.

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

To be fair- with his erratic behavior he may have not actually fired his agent (sending a nasty tweet doesn’t count)... and even if he did I believe there’s a brief window before you can hire another (cooling off period of sorts)

 

Firing the agent, allegedly saying he’d play at the right price and then saying the bills had til Sunday... leads me to believe he threatened and the bills said “sorry to hear that, let us know if your playing but it’ll be under the contract you just signed” and Ritchie then blew up his health problems. 

 

Where did he say he'd play for the right price? 

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Where did he say he'd play for the right price? 

 

 

He told Peter King that, apparently.

[YoloinOhio]

15 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

He was a Trump devotee at one point..

Still is - he was Retweeting stuff about “witch hunts” this week. 

[NoSaint]

13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

He told Peter King that, apparently.

 

The early versions of the story came with both “at the right price” and “they have til Sunday” attached. It seems like he did not think through that saying that publicly would probably end his career.... im guessing he soon received a “yea, you aren’t getting more money” and that’s when he tweeted he was done. 

 

 

The major points were reported- but that the bills called his bluff and he followed through on the threat is my speculation. It’s possible that docs said he should quit and he just flailed around dramatically and that included some sketchy comments on his part in response to the bad news from the docs 

Edited April 12, 2018 by NoSaint

[Mr. WEO]

8 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

The early versions of the story came with both “at the right price” and “they have til Sunday” attached. It seems like he did not think through that saying that publicly would probably end his career.... im guessing he soon received a “yea, you aren’t getting more money” and that’s when he tweeted he was done. 

 

 

The major points were reported- but that the bills called his bluff and he followed through on the threat is my speculation. It’s possible that docs said he should quit and he just flailed around dramatically and that included some sketchy comments on his part in response to the bad news from the docs 

 

 

I agree--this was flailing on his part.  He's been getting annual physicals like everyone else--there was no drastic change in organ function.  This guy wanted to play this year.  He tantrumed.

 

The rashness of his behavior could not be more fitting and obvious.

[Doc]

All I read from King was that RI admitted to him that he was pissed about the pay cut (which helped the team, mind you, and RI could have forced them to cut him and signed elsewhere), but that it wasn't the reason he was retiring.  And again he took the pay cut a month ago: there was nothing new there.  So it's entirely plausible that he went to the doctor for a pre-off-season activites physical, the doctor told him (again) that the stress of playing in the NFL is hurting him, and he finally listened.  Maybe the contract had a little to do with it, but again, that happened a month ago.  More likely he saw that the team was going with AJM, NP, and maybe a rookie at QB, and decided it was time.  I don't know.  But to think it's ridiculous that he'd retire for health reasons is ridiculous.  Much less that he won't be missed. 

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

All I read from King was that RI admitted to him that he was pissed about the pay cut (which helped the team, mind you, and RI could have forced them to cut him and signed elsewhere), but that it wasn't the reason he was retiring.  And again he took the pay cut a month ago: there was nothing new there.  So it's entirely plausible that he went to the doctor for a pre-off-season activites physical, the doctor told him (again) that the stress of playing in the NFL is hurting him, and he finally listened.  Maybe the contract had a little to do with it, but again, that happened a month ago.  More likely he saw that the team was going with AJM, NP, and maybe a rookie at QB, and decided it was time.  I don't know.  But to think it's ridiculous that he'd retire for health reasons is ridiculous.  Much less that he won't be missed. 

 

 

Doc, what are you missing here? King reported this week:

 

 When Sports Illustrated's Peter King first reported that Incognito was considering retirement, King added that Incognito said he would contemplate returning for the right price, and that he was talking with the Bills about his deal and had until Sunday to reconsider retiring.

 

 

 

[Doc]

And this is what Vic Carucci said:

 

 

On 4/10/2018 at 10:56 AM, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

[NoSaint]

9 minutes ago, Doc said:

And this is what Vic Carucci said:

 

 

 

 

Right. And it seemed that he spoke to king first and over the course of this unfolding publicly the story coming from Ritchie’s mouth changed. 

 

Im not sure where the disconnect is here.... there are only a few options:

 

1) docs say he can’t play, and in an emotional state he pitches a fit about how he’d play for more then backs off it when he chills out and realizes the risk.

 

2) he was upset about the deal, fired his agent and tried to push the bills into the corner and when they didn’t back down he overstated the health concerns to try to save face. 

 

3) the reporters straight up lied about his quotes. 

 

Im having a hard time buying that two weeks ago he got the report, decided to (for some reason publicly) fire his agent in advance of retiring, and has been quietly taking a measured approach about when and how to announce it.

 

Given his lack of impulse control long term, his erratic behavior lately and just the generally storyline it seems almost 100% 1 or 2 

[Jerome007]

Whatever the reason, it still sucks and the Bills lost their 2 best linemen surprisingly since the season ended, and traded Glenn. So DEPTH at the very least is a very big issue, and well, getting starters has become one too!

 

If it is about money, man he's going about it in really bad strange way. But who knows? He could be telling the truth: yeah he's POed at the paycut but it's about his health. In any case, I hope that this calms down and that he comes back one more year! And that Shady pays that 300k!

 

 

[BillsFan4]

It's kind of interesting that there hasn't been any type of announcement or confirmation of Richie's retirement by the Bills (I just double checked their twitter account to make sure). 

 

I don't know if it's just another cap type of issue that keeps them from saying anything, or if there's something else going on behind the scenes. 

 

I believe the issue with Wood was him retiring vs being unable to play due to medical issues, and Wood not willing to say he was the one retiring (for money reasons).

 

The case with Richie seems to be different. He's said straight up he is retiring. I don't really see why the Bills wouldn't acknowledge it (especially if he was truly done playing over medical reasons) and congratulate him on his NFL career.

Makes me wonder if that stuff about having until Sunday is true (for Richie to change his mind or the Bills to offer more money). 

 

 

[3rdand12]

9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Still is - he was Retweeting stuff about “witch hunts” this week. 

he seems to be a tad unstable lately

[Mr. WEO]

9 hours ago, NoSaint said:

 

Right. And it seemed that he spoke to king first and over the course of this unfolding publicly the story coming from Ritchie’s mouth changed. 

 

Im not sure where the disconnect is here.... there are only a few options:

 

1) docs say he can’t play, and in an emotional state he pitches a fit about how he’d play for more then backs off it when he chills out and realizes the risk.

 

2) he was upset about the deal, fired his agent and tried to push the bills into the corner and when they didn’t back down he overstated the health concerns to try to save face. 

 

3) the reporters straight up lied about his quotes. 

 

Im having a hard time buying that two weeks ago he got the report, decided to (for some reason publicly) fire his agent in advance of retiring, and has been quietly taking a measured approach about when and how to announce it.

 

Given his lack of impulse control long term, his erratic behavior lately and just the generally storyline it seems almost 100% 1 or 2 

 

It's number 2 based on his utterances.

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

It's number 2 based on his utterances.

 

Its largely my belief, but given his history I hate to completely rule out other options. It’s possible he could’ve actually been acting in a way that makes even less sense though. Hard to assume the logical choice with him.

[Uncle Joe]

13 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

He was a Trump devotee at one point..

 

12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Still is - he was Retweeting stuff about “witch hunts” this week. 

 

3 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

he seems to be a tad unstable lately

In true Bill's meltdown fashion he was seen running naked outside Pelosi's Place.

[Doc]

8 hours ago, NoSaint said:

Right. And it seemed that he spoke to king first and over the course of this unfolding publicly the story coming from Ritchie’s mouth changed. 

 

Im not sure where the disconnect is here.... there are only a few options:

 

1) docs say he can’t play, and in an emotional state he pitches a fit about how he’d play for more then backs off it when he chills out and realizes the risk.

 

2) he was upset about the deal, fired his agent and tried to push the bills into the corner and when they didn’t back down he overstated the health concerns to try to save face. 

 

3) the reporters straight up lied about his quotes. 

 

Im having a hard time buying that two weeks ago he got the report, decided to (for some reason publicly) fire his agent in advance of retiring, and has been quietly taking a measured approach about when and how to announce it.

 

Given his lack of impulse control long term, his erratic behavior lately and just the generally storyline it seems almost 100% 1 or 2 

 

And I'm having a hard time buying that he took a pay cut a month ago and then just a week ago realized he took a pay cut, got pissed, and then decided to do something about it.  Again there was nothing new that could have been learned about his contract that he didn't already know a month ago.  Now if he truly had a doctor's appointment within the past few weeks, something that is easily verifiable, that would support his health reasons claim, along with not wanting to start over with an unsettled QB situation.  So I still say option 1 makes the most sense to me.  Pitching a fit over taking a pay cut but costing yourself $7M doesn't. 

 

As for option 3, the things he told both aren't mutually exclusive.  He was probably pissed about the pay cut but decided he had had enough, and tried to see if the Bills would give him a big pay raise on a lark.  They didn't so he retired.  End of story and his time with the Bills.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

 

[Canadian Bills Fan]

He retired?!

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Canadian Bills Fan said:

He retired?!

 

It's official now.

[TheBeane]

Are there any salary cap impacts?

[Canadian Bills Fan]

Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It's official now.

 

 

I know buddy. I was just being sarcastic in general. Not just about your post haha

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, TheBeane said:

Are there any salary cap impacts?

 

The Bills regain cap space.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[TheBeane]

3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Use some of that to sign Joeckel & Willie Snead

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

And I'm having a hard time buying that he took a pay cut a month ago and then just a week ago realized he took a pay cut, got pissed, and then decided to do something about it.  Again there was nothing new that could have been learned about his contract that he didn't already know a month ago.  Now if he truly had a doctor's appointment within the past few weeks, something that is easily verifiable, that would support his health reasons claim, along with not wanting to start over with an unsettled QB situation.  So I still say option 1 makes the most sense to me.  Pitching a fit over taking a pay cut but costing yourself $7M doesn't. 

 

As for option 3, the things he told both aren't mutually exclusive.  He was probably pissed about the pay cut but decided he had had enough, and tried to see if the Bills would give him a big pay raise on a lark.  They didn't so he retired.  End of story and his time with the Bills.

 

 

Yeah, that's pretty much Option #2...

 

And the unsettled QB situation?? What does he care?  He's a Guard.

 

 

[BringBackOrton]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

And I'm having a hard time buying that he took a pay cut a month ago and then just a week ago realized he took a pay cut, got pissed, and then decided to do something about it.  Again there was nothing new that could have been learned about his contract that he didn't already know a month ago.  Now if he truly had a doctor's appointment within the past few weeks, something that is easily verifiable, that would support his health reasons claim, along with not wanting to start over with an unsettled QB situation.  So I still say option 1 makes the most sense to me.  Pitching a fit over taking a pay cut but costing yourself $7M doesn't. 

 

As for option 3, the things he told both aren't mutually exclusive.  He was probably pissed about the pay cut but decided he had had enough, and tried to see if the Bills would give him a big pay raise on a lark.  They didn't so he retired.  End of story and his time with the Bills.

I would bet he's been communicating behind the scenes with OBD since the pay cut occurred. Just because he waited a couple weeks to go public doesn't mean he realized he took a payout 3 weeks later.

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

I would bet he's been communicating behind the scenes with OBD since the pay cut occurred. Just because he waited a couple weeks to go public doesn't mean he realized he took a payout 3 weeks later.

 

 

Exactly.  He fired his agent (goofball move) then tried to renegotiate as a 34 yo lineman with few options outside the Bills at that price.  Bills said no.  Then he quits, leaving money on the table (bonehead move).  Cites sudden awareness of multi-organ failure as the real reason for the embarrassing turn of events this past month.

Edited April 12, 2018 by Mr. WEO

[3rdand12]

7 hours ago, Uncle Joe said:

 

 

In true Bill's meltdown fashion he was seen running naked outside Pelosi's Place.

LOL !

 Thanks for the Good laugh.

 Hot for the 78 year old Dem. Gracious me !

[BillsFan4]

Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Still no "congratulations Richie" or anything like that. Does anyone else besides me wonder why? 

 

Just straight business - "Richie has been placed on the reserved/retired list". 

 

So far, IMO, this whole thing just has not really read like someone retiring for medical reasons. 

 

 

[Doc]

5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Exactly.  He fired his agent (goofball move) then tried to renegotiate as a 34 yo lineman with few options outside the Bills at that price.  Bills said no.  Then he quits, leaving money on the table (bonehead move).  Cites sudden awareness of multi-organ failure as the real reason for the embarrassing turn of events this past month.

 

You've never played in the NFL WEO.  Your opinion on the matter means little.  Or so I've been told.

 

Suffice it to say he's retired, for whatever reason.  One day you too will decide what it would take/if it's worth it to eke out one last year.

[26CornerBlitz]

21 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Still no "congratulations Richie" or anything like that. Does anyone else besides me wonder why? 

 

Just straight business - "Richie has been placed on the reserved/retired list". 

 

So far, IMO, this whole thing just has not really read like someone retiring for medical reasons. 

 

I'm sure they aren't thrilled at OBD. 

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

I'm sure they aren't thrilled at OBD. 

 

They probably learned from the Eric Wood fiasco, and are likely gearing up for a fight over unamortized bonus money.

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

They probably learned from the Eric Wood fiasco, and are likely gearing up for a fight over unamortized bonus money.

 

They are entitled to get bonus money back without a fight. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 hours ago, TheBeane said:

Are there any salary cap impacts?

 

$3.65M to $5.9M.  The usual protocol is a voluntarily retiring player repays his pro-rated bonus money, which in RI's case would be $1.25M and would get us the higher amount.

 

10 minutes ago, Doc said:

They probably learned from the Eric Wood fiasco, and are likely gearing up for a fight over unamortized bonus money.

 

As far as I know, RI passed his post-season physical and no official Bills physician has examined Incognito and refused him clearance to play football. 

So there should be no fight.    If Incognito wants to keep his bonus money he needs to stay on the roster until the Bills give him a physical and he fails.

Edited April 12, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan

[YoloinOhio]

41 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Still no "congratulations Richie" or anything like that. Does anyone else besides me wonder why? 

 

Just straight business - "Richie has been placed on the reserved/retired list". 

 

So far, IMO, this whole thing just has not really read like someone retiring for medical reasons. 

 

 

His approach has been embarrassing, throwing Fbombs to the media about his contract and saying he would rather play golf.  Bills are keeping it classy but no need to go overboard on the public gratitude. 

11 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

They probably learned from the Eric Wood fiasco, and are likely gearing up for a fight over unamortized bonus money.

I don’t think he has a case. docs would need to determine he is unable to play football. He even admitted that isn’t true. What he has is fixable but he’s too stressed to go on playing. 

Edited April 12, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[Mr. WEO]

33 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You've never played in the NFL WEO.  Your opinion on the matter means little.  Or so I've been told.

 

Suffice it to say he's retired, for whatever reason.  One day you too will decide what it would take/if it's worth it to eke out one last year.

 

 

Yes, and then I will fire my accountant via twitter, ask my chairman if I can stay one more year at a fully guaranteed salary (after I've already agreed to less), and when he says no I will announce that my vital organs are failing and I was going to retire all along.

 

And if playing in the NFL is required to post an opinion on this board, then you might want to inform the mods so they can update the terms of use.  Probably have to shut the place down, right?

 

 

[Doc]

23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Yes, and then I will fire my accountant via twitter, ask my chairman if I can stay one more year at a fully guaranteed salary (after I've already agreed to less), and when he says no I will announce that my vital organs are failing and I was going to retire all along.

 

And if playing in the NFL is required to post an opinion on this board, then you might want to inform the mods so they can update the terms of use.  Probably have to shut the place down, right?

 

Those are your own words, WEO.  I guess they only apply when defending a player's stupid take on why another player shouldn't be suspended for committing assault on the playing field.  

 

In any case, Ritchie's a big boy and chose his path.  Who are you to say he's a goofball or bonehead?  If anything you should be happy he's no longer on the team.   

[Mr. WEO]

16 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Those are your own words, WEO.  I guess they only apply when defending a player's stupid take on why another player shouldn't be suspended for committing assault on the playing field.  

 

In any case, Ritchie's a big boy and chose his path.  Who are you to say he's a goofball or bonehead?  If anything you should be happy he's no longer on the team.   

 

 

Ok doc.

 

Anyway, Richie is a big boy, but his behavior this off-season is ultimately consistent with an adult life filled with bizarre, boneheaded and goofball behavior.  How can you debate this at this point? Oh, right..

 

I've said it repeatedly in another thread:  the loss of RI is a small loss that won't be felt painfully by the Bills this year.  It's not to make one "happy" or sad.  

[Hebert19]

Personally if he stays retired or tries to get us to release him it says a lot of him.  Maybe all the bad is a depiction of his true character.  Who knows how bad his health is but I'm guessing this is a hissy fit more than anything.