Logic Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Reports are that both Trent Murphy and AJ McCarron had offers from the New England Patriots, but signed with the Bills instead. Now you can say what you want about opportunity for snaps, better money perhaps being offered by Buffalo, etc. But even still, I'll say it again: A quality pass rusher and a quarterback both chose the Bills over the Patriots today. A pretty nice change. Combined with Vontae Davis and Chris Ivory both also choosing Buffalo after visiting with other teams, I feel good about our current front office's ability to sell the vision to players. These are not your same old Buffalo Bills. Side note: I predict Trent Murphy will be a pretty instant fan favorite. Massive guy, non-stop motor, vocal leader, smart as a whip (went to Stanford)...he'll fit right in. His scouting reports said he'd need a few years to acclimate to the pro game. Well, based on his most recent full season (9 sacks while playing 60% of the defensive snaps), Bills are about to be the beneficiaries of Murphy coming into his own! 9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Reports are that both Trent Murphy and AJ McCarron had offers from the New England Patriots, but signed with the Bills instead. Now you can say what you want about opportunity for snaps, better money perhaps being offered by Buffalo, etc. But even still, I'll say it again: A quality pass rusher and a quarterback both chose the Bills over the Patriots today. A pretty nice change. Combined with Vontae Davis and Chris Ivory both also choosing Buffalo after visiting with other teams, I feel good about our current front office's ability to sell the vision to players. These are not your same old Buffalo Bills. Side note: I predict Trent Murphy will be a pretty instant fan favorite. Massive guy, non-stop motor, vocal leader, smart as a whip (went to Stanford)...he'll fit right in. His scouting reports said he'd need a few years to acclimate to the pro game. Well, based on his most recent full season (9 sacks while playing 60% of the defensive snaps), Bills are about to be the beneficiaries of Murphy coming into his own! I have high hopes for Murph. Loved him at Stanford. Plus that tweet is awesome, heh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I could be said that all of the AFC East did well so far with the exception of NE. It's up to the teams in the AFC East to knock the Patriots down. I would like to see that start this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Logic said: 1 hour ago, Logic said: Edited March 15, 2018 by Freddie's Dead 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I love our front office. These guys are going to take us places. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, Logic said: It ain't no secret... The north remembers.... Here's hoping he plays like a wildling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I am all in on Murphy being a fan favorite. What number will he wear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Coastie said: I am all in on Murphy being a fan favorite. What number will he wear? He wore 93 at Stanford and for Washington, so I'm assuming the same here. No one has it. I think the last good #93 was Pat Williams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The reason WR Danny Amendola decided to leave NE was he was tired of accepting less than what he was worth while playing on an SB caliber team. The Patriots lost their starting LT for 15 mill per which is about 2 mill over what others have been making. Tom Brady isn't making anywhere near what some of the top 10 QB's are making to allow the Patriots to sign quality free agents. Once Brady leaves NE or retires I kinda doubt the next QB will accept as little as Brady has been making. The worm could finally be turning this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The reports about New England offering McCarron a contract are not shaping up to be true: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_patriots_never_offered_aj_mccarron_a_contract/s1_12680_25942679 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) I also saw in Murphy's scouting report it said it would take him a few years to acclimate to the speed of the game. immediately crowned Beane a Genius, again Edited March 15, 2018 by buffalover4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Murphy is the new Kelsay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: He wore 93 at Stanford and for Washington, so I'm assuming the same here. No one has it. I think the last good #93 was Pat Williams. Well that may be the Jersey I buy next year... too cynical to buy any QB Jersey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What really matters is that now we don’t have to overpay just to have players even consider to play in Buffalo , 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The Cheatriots era is soon to be over. 4 top players left NE this week. I guarantee Brady will retire after this next season and hoody will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Murphy is the new Kelsay. Let's hope for better results... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: Let's hope for better results... Kelsay was a very good role player. Played on some good defenses. That said he wasn't much of a pass rusher. Murphy's 2016 was better than multiple Kelsay years combined in terms of pass rush production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Logic said: Reports are that both Trent Murphy and AJ McCarron had offers from the New England Patriots, but signed with the Bills instead. Now you can say what you want about opportunity for snaps, better money perhaps being offered by Buffalo, etc. But even still, I'll say it again: A quality pass rusher and a quarterback both chose the Bills over the Patriots today. A pretty nice change. Combined with Vontae Davis and Chris Ivory both also choosing Buffalo after visiting with other teams, I feel good about our current front office's ability to sell the vision to players. These are not your same old Buffalo Bills. Side note: I predict Trent Murphy will be a pretty instant fan favorite. Massive guy, non-stop motor, vocal leader, smart as a whip (went to Stanford)...he'll fit right in. His scouting reports said he'd need a few years to acclimate to the pro game. Well, based on his most recent full season (9 sacks while playing 60% of the defensive snaps), Bills are about to be the beneficiaries of Murphy coming into his own! This isn't a big deal. You said it yourself. Money. Money is what drives most free agency decisions on destination from the player's sides, in probably 90% of all deals. The exceptions are generally when the offers are very close and there's no big financial difference or for guys who have already brought in tens of millions of bucks and now on their later contracts can afford to look at championships rather than just money. I think Beane's doing a terrific job. I'm not saying this to slight the Bills in any way. But picking the Bills over the Pats would not be any kind of a big deal unless the terms the Pats were offering were better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Bills Mafia and the exposure the city and team got after breaking the drought, players able to see how passionate this fan base is and if you ball out your God Like in WNY, has made Buffalo a much more desirable location. Guys see the winning culture being built , it's almost a college atmosphere and I think guys want to experience it. Awesome job to all the fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 It sounds more like the Pats don't believe Brady will retire. If Brady did retire, I'm not sure McCaron signs with the Bills, seeing as his only competition there would be Hoyer. Signing AJ is kind of a meh move to me since he hasn't had much time in the position since coming into the league. But this move does scream the Bills will move up. I just pray Josh Allen isn't the pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I honestly think that the end of last season helped a lot in that regard. There was a massive amount of team spirit in that locker room at the end of the regular season. The Bills are trending up and I think the players see it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: Kelsay was a very good role player. Played on some good defenses. That said he wasn't much of a pass rusher. Murphy's 2016 was better than multiple Kelsay years combined in terms of pass rush production. And yet, for some reason, they kept giving Kelsay big contract extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Murphy is the new Kelsay. you thought you were thinking abstractly, but you just simply compared him to the other white guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, DrDare said: you thought you were thinking abstractly, but you just simply compared him to the other white guy Kelsay's the other white guy? No way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Logic said: Reports are that both Trent Murphy and AJ McCarron had offers from the New England Patriots, but signed with the Bills instead. Now you can say what you want about opportunity for snaps, better money perhaps being offered by Buffalo, etc. But even still, I'll say it again: A quality pass rusher and a quarterback both chose the Bills over the Patriots today. A pretty nice change. Combined with Vontae Davis and Chris Ivory both also choosing Buffalo after visiting with other teams, I feel good about our current front office's ability to sell the vision to players. These are not your same old Buffalo Bills. Side note: I predict Trent Murphy will be a pretty instant fan favorite. Massive guy, non-stop motor, vocal leader, smart as a whip (went to Stanford)...he'll fit right in. His scouting reports said he'd need a few years to acclimate to the pro game. Well, based on his most recent full season (9 sacks while playing 60% of the defensive snaps), Bills are about to be the beneficiaries of Murphy coming into his own! North of the Wall !!! Love this signing, wanted to draft him, hope the knee is good. Edited March 15, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Murphy is the new Kelsay. Not even close. Good try though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I predict Trent Murphy will be a pretty instant fan favorite. Massive guy, non-stop motor... Blue collar? Lunch pail? Gym rat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Oh come on! Buffalo isn't a place Free Agents want to go to!!! I heard that here a bunch of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: I like this. My name is Murphy. I know what jersey I'll be getting this year. Murphy (2) McDermott (2) McCoy McCarron Reilly O'Leary McBeane Digging this Irish Connection theme we got going on here Edited March 15, 2018 by bmur66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 You forgot to mention Trent Murphy's lunch pail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, skibum said: You forgot to mention Trent Murphy's lunch pail. As long as he keeps the steroids out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 7 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Murphy is the new Kelsay. He actually reminds me more of Bryce Paup. Same size and very good off the snap, if Kyle can show him a few things he could be a 8 to 10 sack guy. His 3 cone, 10 yard dash and vert are amazing for a guy his size. Lots of passes are going to get knocked to the ground. 1 hour ago, jimmy10 said: Blue collar? Lunch pail? Gym rat? I don't know if he's a gym rat, only 19 reps, i got him by 3 reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 He needs to be number 95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just wanted to pop in to say that any comparisons to Chris Kelsay are silly. Not just in this thread, but in others I have seen this comparison. Why? Because he's white? Is that like how Lamar Jackson and Tyrod Taylor are identical quarterbacks? Get real. Murphy and Kelsay are nothing alike. One more thing: The 4-man line on 3rd downs looks niiiiice. Hughes and Murphy at DE, Lawson kicks into DT alongside Kyle. Big improvement from last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 New England doesnt have alot of cap space. Brady is nearing the end of his career as he is already speaking retirement. Bellicheat sat his best defensive player during the Super Bowl and runs the place like a dictator. I would say those are some good reasons FA’s chose us and other locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Logic said: Reports are that both Trent Murphy and AJ McCarron had offers from the New England Patriots, but signed with the Bills instead. Now you can say what you want about opportunity for snaps, better money perhaps being offered by Buffalo, etc. But even still, I'll say it again: A quality pass rusher and a quarterback both chose the Bills over the Patriots today. A pretty nice change. Combined with Vontae Davis and Chris Ivory both also choosing Buffalo after visiting with other teams, I feel good about our current front office's ability to sell the vision to players. These are not your same old Buffalo Bills. Side note: I predict Trent Murphy will be a pretty instant fan favorite. Massive guy, non-stop motor, vocal leader, smart as a whip (went to Stanford)...he'll fit right in. His scouting reports said he'd need a few years to acclimate to the pro game. Well, based on his most recent full season (9 sacks while playing 60% of the defensive snaps), Bills are about to be the beneficiaries of Murphy coming into his own! Thanks. This is an interesting point. Another validation of what we all thing we're seeing - total competence in the GM's office. For me, the big question is whether the coaching will be as good as the player personnel activity. On defense, I'm okay. I think McD knows how to build a good defense, and I think he and Beane are getting the guys who fit. The offense, on the other hand, is what I'm worried about. Offense in the NFL these days requires creativity and flexibility. We didn't see that in Buffalo last year, and we just have to wait and see what we get out of Daboll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Oh come on! Buffalo isn't a place Free Agents want to go to!!! I heard that here a bunch of times. This was very much evident before in years past.....but it appears with the waves being made since the new coaching regime and FO changes players seeing change and new culture.....buffalo is just starting to become abit more attractive for players imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Beane and McDermott must be outstanding sales man. I know alot of it comes down to money, but how do you convince a guy (vontae Davis, Murphy, McCarron) to come to Buffalo over other teams who are proven winners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Steptide said: Beane and McDermott must be outstanding sales man. I know alot of it comes down to money, but how do you convince a guy (vontae Davis, Murphy, McCarron) to come to Buffalo over other teams who are proven winners? I think there are a few things going on here. 1. Players could see a fundamental difference in the 2017 Bills from earlier years. Didn't fold down the stretch. Team discipline. 2. Players listen to other players. They could tell, we all could tell, that McDermott had created an environment that players wanted to play in. 3. Players can tell when they're getting BSd, and they don't hear any BS coming from McBeane. 4. When you have the first three, then you look at the owners. The owners look like this, too. Disciplined, create an open and supportive environment, no BS. When you see all that, you believe the team will win. That's what sells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: This isn't a big deal. You said it yourself. Money. Money is what drives most free agency decisions on destination from the player's sides, in probably 90% of all deals. The exceptions are generally when the offers are very close and there's no big financial difference or for guys who have already brought in tens of millions of bucks and now on their later contracts can afford to look at championships rather than just money. I think Beane's doing a terrific job. I'm not saying this to slight the Bills in any way. But picking the Bills over the Pats would not be any kind of a big deal unless the terms the Pats were offering were better. I agree. It's cool and all, but it would be much cooler when this team starts to win games vs NE once in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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