4_kidd_4 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The new stadium will be incorporated into the existing Summit Park Mall. ‘Wheatfield Bills’, nice ring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Wait, so the following is breaking news? 1) Tyrod Taylor has shown himself to be a mediocre QB and the bills will trade him for a mid round pick to the only other team to express an interest in him? 2) the bills may be interested in signing Kirk cousins, the only viable FA QB on the market? 3) the bills may be building a new stadium to replace their 30-year old one? 4) and the bills may try to re-sign an aging but key Veteran in Kyle Williams to a team friendly deal? Shocking!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Look up the 1948 NFL Championship game. Thank you. So you agree also? Football was never meant to be played in winter and that game was played in winter. Dec 19. Pro football extended the season into basketball season to make more profit. And that game sucked donkey ass. 7-0 thriller. Edited December 13, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 This is vaguely reminiscent of a few years ago (B.P.: Before Pegula) when Wawrow was on here telling us that the stadium would be in Niagara Falls because "Howard Millstein knows what he is doing", something something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Is the OP the Buffalo Bills version of Incarcerated Bob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: Members 20 87 posts Report post Posted 2 minutes ago Just in from my source, Taylor will start remainder of season regardless of win/ lose. Bills will not cut Taylor but if attempt to trade him for another low round pick. Cousins definitely in mix to be next year qb. Ties to Buffalo confirmed. New stadium will be built in 2021or 2022. Location picked. Do not buy the hype about land study. Go to land purchases for last two years and you can determine location. Also check to see minority investment owners you will will see ties to Buffalo area. This property in four years will be most valuable in western New York. Not just where the stadium will be built but surrounding areas. Check transactions and building permits for new restaurants and you will see connections All of this makes sense. First, it's very apparent that Taylor isn't the Bills future QB based on his performance and benching. Secondly, it's well known throughout the league that there are many teams interested in his services. Why not trade him instead of letting him go for nothing. Secondly, Cousins makes sense for the Bills, specifically McDermott. He is a perfect fit re: character & leadership qualities with a fiery temperament. He is ranked within the Top 10 in completion %, yards, TD passes, QB rating, and completions of 20+ yards. His 9 INT's is 5th best amongst QB's with over 3400 yards passing. He has five 300+ yard passing games this season. Brady has 6. Roethlisberger and Stafford have 4. He pushes the ball down the field and can make the throws. As a young 29 year old he's been a full time starter for the last 3 seasons after playing only 14 total games his first three seasons. He hasn't missed a game since 2014 when he split time with RG3. He can easily fulfill a 7-8 year contract especially with players like Brees, Manning, Roethlisberger and Brady who are over 35 leading the way. It's a win now move vs. waiting years for a 2018 draft pick to learn and grow. The land information isn't a stretch to believe. Pegula has built up Downtown Buffalo immensely and as a business man he knows that an all-in-one facility that is closer to downtown than OP with new Boxes, restaurants, stores, etc would be a revenue maximizer. New Era Field is dated and old. It doesn't have the facilities and amenities a new stadium could bring, not to mention conventions and other events it would attract if they have a closed roof. Although they have a lease w/ New Era there is no way they are looking to extend it into the foreseeable future once it expires. Land purchases take time. So does creating plans and building. To think the Bills have a spot and may already be making plans in hopes of opening in 4 years is a reasonable timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The WNY county governments suck. Niagara County charges for access. Erie has almost nothing available through their website. As much as I rail about King County and Seattle's annoying leftism, the property/document search provided by the recorder's office is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Look up the 1948 NFL Championship game. Just point out where you were sitting so we can end the madness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, sullim4 said: The WNY county governments suck. Niagara County charges for access. Erie has almost nothing available through their website. As much as I rail about King County and Seattle's annoying leftism, the property/document search provided by the recorder's office is excellent. at least that "annoying leftism" results in what appears to be open access to govt documents and jobs, jobs, and more jobs... piled on top of jobs. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 If we can find out where this list of properties being bought in a particular area or whatever that you claim is where the stadium will be built, why not just tell us where it is? Is it really that big a deal? I mean if the stadium will actually be built there then we will find out at some point anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Augie said: That was a freak storm and timing (which I thoroughly enjoyed despite the quality of the football played). How often does THAT happen? But there IS such a thing as a big, tough cold weather team. Near as I can gather, the last similar game played in Buffalo occurred in 1969 at the Rockpile, against the Bengals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Where the hell is Leroi? Anyone try try to ping him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Near as I can gather, the last similar game played in Buffalo occurred in 1969 at the Rockpile, against the Bengals. I was there, and it was GREAT! Greg Cook was QB for Bengals. I saw some old video and it was not nearly as bad as I remembered, but who shows video of pure WHITE? Must have been during a lull. We couldn’t see a thing much of the game. People nearby had transistor radios to keep up with what was happening on the field according to people on the sidelines. I don’t think it was quite as bad as Sunday though. That was crazy stuff, and I wish I had been there too. Edited December 13, 2017 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This is vaguely reminiscent of a few years ago (B.P.: Before Pegula) when Wawrow was on here telling us that the stadium would be in Niagara Falls because "Howard Millstein knows what he is doing", something something... This does seem like discussions from 2 or 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Where the hell is Leroi? Anyone try try to ping him? Wait, is he off on the Red October or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Boyst62 said: My cousins live in Brockport. Where do yours live? I don't know where my cousins live and want to leave it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 52 minutes ago, mead107 said: I am buying the Bills with meadcoins and moving the team to Saratoga. Mead Bills What are meadcoins at these days!? Regardless, I'm getting seasons if they're in Saratoga. Will you send the strombolicoptor up to VT to grab me for the games? 45 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Ok I swear to god I didn't see this post before I posted the same picture, weird Ha! It perfectly encapsulates this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Dunkirk Don said: Not back peddling Tom gibbons Dunkirk hew York native married former bills ed rudkowki daughter. Bud carpenter former head trainer at fredonia state. Wife is from Dunkirk New York. Cathy Burke. Check it all out and get back to me Cousins' wife is named Julie Hampton and she is from Atlanta, Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Heitz said: What are meadcoins at these days!? Regardless, I'm getting seasons if they're in Saratoga. Will you send the strombolicoptor up to VT to grab me for the games? Ha! It perfectly encapsulates this thread... You got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The Bills would be fools to not look into signing Cousins. They won't have to break the bank to sign him either. Kirk will go to the best situation for him, his family and his career, not strictly to who pays him the most. Being a DMV (D.C., Maryland, Virgina) area resident, that's what I gather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: The Bills would be fools to not look into signing Cousins. They won't have to break the bank to sign him either. Kirk will go to the best situation for him, his family and his career, not strictly to who pays him the most. Being a DMV (D.C., Maryland, Virgina) area resident, that's what I gather. What is breaking the bank? I'm pretty sure you're wrong. He's going to be near 30 mil a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Wasn't Dunkirk Don that groundhog you use to see on the news on groundhogs day? He was very good at predicting that there would be six more weeks of Winter. Edited December 13, 2017 by The Monk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: I heard New Market. New deli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: I will update you on Dennison tomorrow but that will be my last post from my source. Last post. Last post yeah. Gotta watch Wapner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Terry and Kim Pegula have bought yet another building in the city’s Cobblestone District, leading many observers to wonder if the Pegulas are building up their real estate portfolio in anticipation of a new downtown football stadium. http://wivb.com/2017/06/14/the-pegulas-take-over-another-downtown-property-whats-next/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Dung don, hope your source is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 [This is an automated response]As a courtesy to the other board members, please use more descriptive topic titles. A better title will help the community find information faster and make your topic more likely to be read. The topic starter can edit the topic title line to make it more appropriate.Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Steptide said: What does that mean? He's getting fired? I would assume he means he will update to see whether he is back or not next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: The Bills would be fools to not look into signing Cousins. They won't have to break the bank to sign him either. Kirk will go to the best situation for him, his family and his career, not strictly to who pays him the most. Being a DMV (D.C., Maryland, Virgina) area resident, that's what I gather. You’re out of touch with reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I've heard that the Pegulas want an open air stadium. Steelers and Ravend the models. Economical, solid, football stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: I've heard that the Pegulas want an open air stadium. Steelers and Ravend the models. Economical, solid, football stadiums. I have ZERO idea what they want, or what is economically feasible, but I can see the benefits of having a more versatile facility to generate additional revenue. I think they have a big picture view, but I may be wrong, and the numbers just may not work. I’m in the south and Atlanta needs a retractable roof so they can use it more. I’m curious to see how it turns out,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Augie said: I have ZERO idea what they want, or what is economically feasible, but I can see the benefits of having a more versatile facility to generate additional revenue. I think they have a big picture view, but I may be wrong, and the numbers just may not work. I’m in the south and Atlanta needs a retractable roof so they can use it more. I’m curious to see how it turns out,. Riiiiight... Wherever I need a tool, I use that line on my wife. I think she's not buying it anymore. Crap, just before I was gonna hit her up for the Ferrari... That's a "tool" we can use a lot, right? Oh, does anybody need a gently used table saw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I know a Dave in Dunkirk. His prognostications are rather iffy, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, par73 said: I know a Dave in Dunkirk. His prognostications are rather iffy, though. Let me guess. Last guy on the boat? "Germans? Ah... They won't be here for a while, we got time to stop for a round or two." Yeah... That's a bit iffy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Wait, so the following is breaking news? 1) Tyrod Taylor has shown himself to be a mediocre QB and the bills will trade him for a mid round pick to the only other team to express an interest in him? 2) the bills may be interested in signing Kirk cousins, the only viable FA QB on the market? 3) the bills may be building a new stadium to replace their 30-year old one? 4) and the bills may try to re-sign an aging but key Veteran in Kyle Williams to a team friendly deal? Shocking!! This is exactly how "psychics" make their money. Every rational person knows Taylor is gone, just like they know a new stadium is coming in ~5 years. But man, when you deliver news in that style, heads explode. Let me try... A little birdie told me that the next massive Bills project is going to happen on Perry St. Whatever that means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Augie said: I have ZERO idea what they want, or what is economically feasible, but I can see the benefits of having a more versatile facility to generate additional revenue. I think they have a big picture view, but I may be wrong, and the numbers just may not work. I’m in the south and Atlanta needs a retractable roof so they can use it more. I’m curious to see how it turns out,. Terry Pegula does not want a dome. I wish I could say more. Edited December 13, 2017 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't think Taylor has an option clause this year. Perhaps you mean his roster bonus? I get confused about the rules there myself, but after reading up: whatever team he's on pays the roster bonus. I think it's due the 3rd day of the new League Year so March 17 (might be the 5th) so they can trade him between March 14th and March 17th and the partner would pay. I think. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2017/3/10/14881226/tyrod-taylor-restructured-contract-2017-nfl-free-agency-doug-whaley-buffalo-bills "Buffalo was able to shorten the length of Tyrod’s deal. They can move on from him in a year with a relatively minimal cap hit of $8.64 million or let him play out the last year of his contract and let him become a free agent. His earlier contract ran through 2021." Well I guess it's not technically an option. It's just that we can cut him without a huge Cap hit in the first 4 or 5 days of the new league year. My misunderstanding. I guess Taylor's even more likely to still be a Buffalo Bill next year than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Taylor's set to make $18 million next year... I don't think the Bills want to be on the hook for that kind of money for the production we're getting. Very unlikely a team will trade for him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Terry Pegula does not want a dome. I wish I could say more. What's that supposed to mean? He's stated that somewhere before? I'm pretty sure 99% of owners WANT a dome, it's just a matter of affording the construction of a domed stadium. And just because it's an indoor stadium, doesn't necessarily mean it'll be one of those massive palaces that Jones, Blank & Kroenke like. Lucas Oil Stadium (Colts) cost $856 million (adjusted for inflation), Ford Field (Lions) cost $696 million, NRG Stadium (Texans) cost $490 million (Man...Texas is awesome), and University of Phoenix Stadium (Cardinals) cost $556 million. Problem is a lot of owners want to go ALL-OUT and put the nicest, most luxurious and absolute best of everything in these stadiums. The box seats are of huge importance, so they make them as flashy and prestigious looking as possible to attract as much money as possible. We could feasibly build a fixed or retractable roof stadium if they were smart with their money and didn't feel the need to one-up the last palace built. I know luxury suites are important, but New Era Field only has like 60 or so executive suites right? They wouldn't have to add a ton more, as they know their audience isn't primarily made up of a bunch of rich businessmen or upper-class white collar people. And I'd think the Pegula's would be financing the stadium privately (with possible small assistance from the county), so they'd want to make sure it was economical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan boy '92 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: I will stop sharing if you think it is bs. Thought you might find this valuable Don't listen to these children. These interwebs can be a foul place where faceless fools abound. Thanks for the info. and Go Bills! 1 hour ago, QCity said: This is exactly how "psychics" make their money. Every rational person knows Taylor is gone, just like they know a new stadium is coming in ~5 years. But man, when you deliver news in that style, heads explode. Let me try... A little birdie told me that the next massive Bills project is going to happen on Perry St. Whatever that means. So, because it makes logical sense, it can't be news. Thanks for that long winded diatribe of nuthin. Edited December 13, 2017 by Fan boy '92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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