Tipster19 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 The Titans traded for Calvin Ridley which doesn’t bode well for Burks. Having DeAndre Hopkins, Ridley and the #7 pick overall in this year’s draft puts them in the right position to select one of the top 3 WRs. I believe that Beane is going to move up in the draft for either Brian Thomas Jr or Adonai Mitchell but adding another WR is still a real possibility. Being a former 1st rd pick that hasn’t stayed healthy makes Burks expendable. If Beane could get him cheap that would be a low risk high ceiling WR prospect for the Bills imo. 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 meh 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I wouldn’t hate it, but I certainly wouldn’t get excited about it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 One other aspect that could be attractive for Beane, Burks signed a 4 year 14+M contract with half of it already paid (7+M) out. Burks is making just over 3M @ year which would be another benefit for the cash strapped Bills. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Burks has had injury woes, playing only 22 of a possible 34 games, and has been invisible otherwise for the most part. That's a pass from me. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 why does he have a high ceiling? He's done nothing so far 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I would be willing to take a flier on him. I think someone suggested a swap of failed first rounders - Burks for Elam - a month or two back and I don't hate that idea. But I wouldn't be giving much up for him. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Maybe he could get his second GM fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 3 minutes ago, nucci said: why does he have a high ceiling? He's done nothing so far Size, speed and being a former 1st rd pick. Coming out of college he was suppose to be a AJ Brown clone. Obviously he’s not so far but at one point he was considered to be. Minimal investment is worth a consideration. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 4.55 40 time . May have problems getting separation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 He’s a more expensive version of Isabella, right? Or has he actually established any presence as a foundation to justify reps beyond his drags position? I’ve not seen a ton of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I would be willing to take a flier on him. I think someone suggested a swap of failed first rounders - Burks for Elam - a month or two back and I don't hate that idea. But I wouldn't be giving much up for him. I would rather keep Elam. He has shown more than Burks has at this point and with Tre gone and Bedford coming back from injury, Elam also has more value to the team right now and has a chance to compete to start. Burks would be competing at bottom of WR depth chart here to be a WR 4/5 right now with Hollis after we draft a WR. And if we draft 2 WRs he could end up 5th or 6th on the depth chart. Hollis also brings blocking and ST value over Burks too. 3 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 He fits the mold but he has had the opportunity and done nothing with it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Burks is 6'2" 225lbs. I'd be ok with adding him, but no way for Elam. I liked him in the draft, but he hasn't really done anything in the NFL. If we could get him for a 4th or something, heck yeah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 The Bills have enough players coming back from injuries and they had to get rid of some because of it so i would hope that Beane wouldn't pick up another player that has a pretty good injury history . Let's get them through the draft and look to the future that will be best for the cap & its health all the way around moving forward !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Burks has potential still, but Hopkins isn't getting any younger and Burks is only in his 3rd year. I doubt Tennessee will move on from him before year 4. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 26 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would rather keep Elam. He has shown more than Burks has at this point and with Tre gone and Bedford coming back from injury, Elam also has more value to the team right now and has a chance to compete to start. Burks would be competing at bottom of WR depth chart here to be a WR 4/5 right now with Hollis after we draft a WR. And if we draft 2 WRs he could end up 5th or 6th on the depth chart. Hollis also brings blocking and ST value over Burks too. I think they are similar to me. Both showed some flashes of ability as rookies without ever establishing themselves and then struggled to get on the field as second year guys with injuries and funky scheme fits ended up benched. It's fair that we are probably deeper at WR than corner with Dane and Tre gone. That's true. I just have so little faith in Elam's ability to work out in this defense at this point. Not in his ability. I still think there is a player there. But the reason I didn't like him as a scheme fit originally and was a bit surprised he was the pick still applies. Not saying I'd be desperate to do it, but I don't hate the failed first rounder swap as an idea. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 59 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: I wouldn’t hate it, but I certainly wouldn’t get excited about it. In other words, meh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I'd rather just draft multiple WRs in the draft but he wouldn't be the worst flier to take. Issue is he may be best suited for the slot at this point and we have plenty of guys to line up there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 44 minutes ago, NoSaint said: He’s a more expensive version of Isabella, right? Or has he actually established any presence as a foundation to justify reps beyond his drags position? I’ve not seen a ton of him I mean they are both failed prospects but Isabella is 3 years older. They are completely different players. Burks is big and slow and Isabella is tiny and fast. They both suck. Burks' change of direction scores in the 3 cone and shuttle etc are just awful, no explosion either. Neither's game translated to the NFL so far. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 No, just no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 this screams a peerless price trade to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Please no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) Regarding Elam and Burks: If we're taking a swing at a third year breakout player, I'd rather have a talented man cover corner be the guy that breaks out while on my roster than a receiver. I think the latter are easier to find than the former. That said, the new Titans regime has no ties to Treylon Burks, so if they're willing to flip him to us for a late round pick (think 5th or later) then I'd be on board. I like low risk, high reward swings on former first and second round picks. Burks is a guy I'd be willing to gamble on, provided the compensation needed to acquire him is relatively meager. He's dealt with injuries, sure, but the Titans passing game has also just generally been a wasteland for lots of guys the past few years. Who's been slinging the rock? The ghost of Ryan Tannehill, Malik Willis, rookie Will Levis...yuck! So it's a no for me on an Elam swap, but a yes to Burks if he can be had for cheap. Edited April 9 by Logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Thinking a bit more about this I don’t like the idea of adding Burkes even if it was for almost nothing. If he’s going to have success in the NFL it’ll likely be as a possession WR out of the slot. We don’t have much need there. We’d be better off looking for an X to take a flier on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: Thinking a bit more about this I don’t like the idea of adding Burkes even if it was for almost nothing. If he’s going to have success in the NFL it’ll likely be as a possession WR out of the slot. We don’t have much need there. We’d be better off looking for an X to take a flier on. He's a big boy and isn't quick so i don't see him in the slot, i just wonder if he's more bark than bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 He’s terrible. He’s N’Keal Harry 2.0. No thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 6 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: He's a big boy and isn't quick so i don't see him in the slot, i just wonder if he's more bark than bite. I think this discussion tells you everything you need to know about Burks. One of us is saying that he’s not a good enough separator or contested catch receiver to win on the outside, so maybe he could be a decent possession receiver, even if he’s never gonna be dynamic there. The other one is saying that he’s not quick enough to be a good slot receiver so if he’s going to be successful, it’ll have to be on the outside I think we’re both right We should just move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, Tipster19 said: The Titans traded for Calvin Ridley which doesn’t bode well for Burks. Having DeAndre Hopkins, Ridley and the #7 pick overall in this year’s draft puts them in the right position to select one of the top 3 WRs. I believe that Beane is going to move up in the draft for either Brian Thomas Jr or Adonai Mitchell but adding another WR is still a real possibility. Being a former 1st rd pick that hasn’t stayed healthy makes Burks expendable. If Beane could get him cheap that would be a low risk high ceiling WR prospect for the Bills imo. I mean....if the Titans would give him up for a bag of chips I guess it would be alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 3 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I mean....if the Titans would give him up for a bag of chips I guess it would be alright The only issue is that a team trading for him would take on his guaranteed contract. $4.7M total for 2024 & 2025. There have been recent trades where guaranteed money reverts back to the original team if the player is cut. I’m not interested but I’d want us to insist on that if we did acquire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: The only issue is that a team trading for him would take on his guaranteed contract. $4.7M total for 2024 & 2025. There have been recent trades where guaranteed money reverts back to the original team if the player is cut. I’m not interested but I’d want us to insist on that if we did acquire him. I'm not really interested either. If he became a free agent, maybe but not a trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: I wouldn’t hate it, but I certainly wouldn’t get excited about it. That's about where I'm at. I remember wanting him in the draft, but not in the first where he was being valued. Haven't been thrilled with what I've seen in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I'd shoot em a 6 or 7 maybe but idk why they'd give up on him already.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: I mean they are both failed prospects but Isabella is 3 years older. They are completely different players. Burks is big and slow and Isabella is tiny and fast. They both suck. Burks' change of direction scores in the 3 cone and shuttle etc are just awful, no explosion either. Neither's game translated to the NFL so far. oh yea I didn’t mean in the sense that their style is similar but that they are full washouts right now… Isabella having the perk of at least being league minimum pay where burk has the challenge of a $3m salary (not huge, but effects how you manage him) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 No thanks- we don’t need another slot/power slot guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Honest question. How do you really evaluate a WR when they have garbage QBs throwing to them? I'd pass based on injury history but you would really have to dig in and decide how much of that is bad luck of a chronic issue. As an aside Bills are going to have the same issue evaluating Rousseau as he seems to be injured every year and production decreases as the season wears on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 14 minutes ago, NoSaint said: oh yea I didn’t mean in the sense that their style is similar but that they are full washouts right now… Isabella having the perk of at least being league minimum pay where burk has the challenge of a $3m salary (not huge, but effects how you manage him) Gotcha! Yes totally. Failed prospect who is more expensive and would cost capital. Same idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Maybe as a low risk/low cost flyer to see if he can add anything like we are doing with with K.J. Hamler, but not for anything more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, Tipster19 said: Size, speed and being a former 1st rd pick. Coming out of college he was suppose to be a AJ Brown clone. Obviously he’s not so far but at one point he was considered to be. Minimal investment is worth a consideration. He was never an A.J. Brown clone. That comparison came from someone who didn't really understand how they each played the game and was more based on their similar size. Yes, Burks has the size/look of a classic X receiver, but he didn't and still doesn't have the skills to beat man coverage consistently to win at the X. He'd be better suited as a big slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Wait, why do we want him? About 600 yards and 1 TD over two years for the Titans. Injured a lot. He is tall but not really fast. What is the appeal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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