CURTIS SAMUEL A BILL

[Fan in Chicago]

4 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Samual absolutely can play outside, but a unique quality our top 3 WRs now have is outside/slot flexibility. All 3 are effective in the slot, and all 3 are effective out wide. 
 

Samuel reminds me SO MUCH of prime John Brown. 
 

Kincaid/Knox also are effective in the slot, Cook out wide. 
 

Brady must be drooling. 

Cook needs to work on his catches. Towards the end of the season he was dropping too many balls for my liking 

[Mango]

23 minutes ago, SCBills said:

This is such an indictment of last years room, but I think you’re correct.

 

Diggs = Diggs

Shakir = Shakir

Samuel > Davis 

Hollins > Harty

 

Diggs is a year older, but Shakir entering Year 3 should be coming into his own.  Gabe Davis is a solid WR, but not what we need .. his skillset is just far too inconsistent and limited in the passing game.  Hollins isn’t anything amazing, but he is a big target down the field who is capable of making a few catches per game if you need him.

 

We’re an early round WR investment away from having a room with the potential to exceed the Diggs, Beasley, Sanders, Davis year. 

 

Samuel doesn't play on the outside. He is a slot guy through and through. Comparing him to Davis doesn't make any sense. Two very different roles in the offense. 

You would want to compare him to Shakir in last years offense. 

All that said everybody knows the plan is to get a WR to play on the outside in Davis spot. But if there are some growing pains Shakir is a pretty versatile guy who absolutely can play in both positions effectively. I think he has some Robert Woods in him as well. 

I like the Samuel signing, but we also seem to get these mid-tier FA to block our draft picks at times. Samuel and Shakir seem to be an example of that. Shakir is in a good spot to take on more responsibility in the offense and we just signed his replacement in the slot and the entire world knows that we are going to take an outside guy early. 

We need more WR talent. I get it. But also we blocked playing time for Shakir and Hodgins (who both flashed when given reps) with Curtis Samuel, Deonte Harty, and Isaiah McKenzie (to an extent). 
 

[SCBills]

20 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

Samuel doesn't play on the outside. He is a slot guy through and through. Comparing him to Davis doesn't make any sense. Two very different roles in the offense. 

You would want to compare him to Shakir in last years offense. 

All that said everybody knows the plan is to get a WR to play on the outside in Davis spot. But if there are some growing pains Shakir is a pretty versatile guy who absolutely can play in both positions effectively. I think he has some Robert Woods in him as well. 

I like the Samuel signing, but we also seem to get these mid-tier FA to block our draft picks at times. Samuel and Shakir seem to be an example of that. Shakir is in a good spot to take on more responsibility in the offense and we just signed his replacement in the slot and the entire world knows that we are going to take an outside guy early. 

We need more WR talent. I get it. But also we blocked playing time for Shakir and Hodgins (who both flashed when given reps) with Curtis Samuel, Deonte Harty, and Isaiah McKenzie (to an extent). 
 

It’s not a 1 for 1, but I see the WR room as follows:

 

Diggs (outside)

Samuel (slot)

RD1 or RD2 WR (outside)

Shakir (inside/outside)

 

We can move all of them around, but if we draft a guy high, I think Shakir becomes a heavy use WR4 rotating in all over the field. 

[Mango]

Just now, SCBills said:

It’s not a 1 for 1, but I see the WR room as follows:

 

Diggs (outside)

Samuel (slot)

RD1 or RD2 WR (outside)

Shakir (inside/outside)

 

We can move all of them around, but if we draft a guy high, I think Shakir becomes a heavy use WR4 rotating in all over the field. 

 

Right but you directly compared Davis to Samuel and their roles are not comparable. Signing Samuel does not upgrade Davis. I guess I am not only responding to you, but so much of this thread is talking about Samuel upgrading Davis that I am sort of responding to everybody. 

 

Quote

 

Diggs = Diggs

Shakir = Shakir

Samuel > Davis 

Hollins > Harty

 

 

Worth noting that Harty was our starting slot receiver for most of the season. Shakir took the job towards the end/in the playoffs. Samuel is certainly an upgrade to Harty.  Shakir has been outplaying the guys in front of him for some time now. 

I am all for adding more talent, and this signing is definitely that, but the constant veteran leapfrogging of some of our draft picks is a little weird. I am pretty high on Shakir and think he may actually be better than Samuel given full time starter duties/reps. 

[Warriorspikes51]

32 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

Samuel doesn't play on the outside. He is a slot guy through and through. Comparing him to Davis doesn't make any sense. Two very different roles in the offense. 

You would want to compare him to Shakir in last years offense. 

All that said everybody knows the plan is to get a WR to play on the outside in Davis spot. But if there are some growing pains Shakir is a pretty versatile guy who absolutely can play in both positions effectively. I think he has some Robert Woods in him as well. 

I like the Samuel signing, but we also seem to get these mid-tier FA to block our draft picks at times. Samuel and Shakir seem to be an example of that. Shakir is in a good spot to take on more responsibility in the offense and we just signed his replacement in the slot and the entire world knows that we are going to take an outside guy early. 

We need more WR talent. I get it. But also we blocked playing time for Shakir and Hodgins (who both flashed when given reps) with Curtis Samuel, Deonte Harty, and Isaiah McKenzie (to an extent). 
 

 

 

Except he does.....  In his career:   45% Lined Up Out Wide 

[Mat68]

He lined up 50% in slot 45% outside and the rest in the backfield.  Why does that make him slot only?  What is the infatuation with “X” wr.  Outside only?  The best Wrs line up everywhere.  The X who cant play anywhere else because they dont have the short area quickness died in the 90’s.  I expect they draft a guy either rd 1 or 2.  They will have the ability to win deep or intermediate.   Contested catch, open when not open throw in the trash and leave it there. 

[Warriorspikes51]

 

Samuel is a Man beater.  88% or higher success rate vs man coverage 3 straight years

[PrimeTime101]

40 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

"Volume stats are not there" ...  I have a huge amount of respect for Cover 1.  But sometimes when they make statements like this, they leave out the main reason (even though they cover it in their video's) why the "Volume" stats are not there...  Should we discuss who has been Washingtons QB the last 3 years?

[Mat68]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Samuel is a Man beater.  88% or higher success rate vs man coverage 3 straight years

That is 1000% the biggest need in January for 4 years on offense.

[CaptnCoke11]

42 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

Samuel doesn't play on the outside. He is a slot guy through and through. Comparing him to Davis doesn't make any sense. Two very different roles in the offense. 

You would want to compare him to Shakir in last years offense. 

All that said everybody knows the plan is to get a WR to play on the outside in Davis spot. But if there are some growing pains Shakir is a pretty versatile guy who absolutely can play in both positions effectively. I think he has some Robert Woods in him as well. 

I like the Samuel signing, but we also seem to get these mid-tier FA to block our draft picks at times. Samuel and Shakir seem to be an example of that. Shakir is in a good spot to take on more responsibility in the offense and we just signed his replacement in the slot and the entire world knows that we are going to take an outside guy early. 

We need more WR talent. I get it. But also we blocked playing time for Shakir and Hodgins (who both flashed when given reps) with Curtis Samuel, Deonte Harty, and Isaiah McKenzie (to an extent). 
 

46% of his career snaps came on the outside so you are dead wrong 

[njbuff]

46 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Cook needs to work on his catches. Towards the end of the season he was dropping too many balls for my liking 

 

Cook can be a helluva weapon out of the backfield.

 

He should be at the jugs 23 hours a day. 😁

[YoloinOhio]

48 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Cook needs to work on his catches. Towards the end of the season he was dropping too many balls for my liking 

Not just dropping balls. Dropping TDs.

[BullBuchanan]

Solid pickup. It surpasses what i thought was possible in terms of talent given the money we had and the market. The money is a little rich for a guy who's perennially been called a breakout candidate that never did, but I guess it's the going rate for a warm body with a history of production. It's less than what he made with Washington, so that's interesting. With Hollywood brown going to KC fr 1/$11M, I guess Beane was looking at a different kind of market. $15M guaranteed means he's definitely here for 2 years, and in an ideal world, he's your #4 by the start of next season, making the $7M a lot.

I still have my hopes pinned on Shakir becoming our top weapon going forward. He was an absolute beast that was under utilized last year. This does give us some buffer to not have to take a WR early and given our holes on defense, we might have to wait until after the first two picks to get more weapons.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Why are people so against…

 

… moves that clearly give JA17 more dangerous weapons

 

… having RBs/WRs who can be deployed all over the field

 

… being able to disguise which pass catchers are doing what (remember that pre-snap motion is a thing)

 

… stats showing Samuel is not strictly a slot WR but is a model of production consistency

 

… the idea that a “boundary WR” can be less than 6’3” 215 and still win because separation is actually the most important attribute

 

… ?

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Why are people so against…

 

… moves that clearly give JA17 more dangerous weapons

 

… having RBs/WRs who can be deployed all over the field

 

… being able to disguise which pass catchers are doing what (remember that pre-snap motion is a thing)

 

… stats showing Samuel is not strictly a slot WR but is a model of production consistency

 

… the idea that a “boundary WR” can be less than 6’3” 215 and still win because separation is actually the most important attribute

 

… ?

 

I wouldn't worry about the board members who don't like the signing.  You won't convince them to change their minds.

[947]

We've been very lucky the past couple seasons with WR health, that won't continue forever. Adding Samuel & a rookie keeps us from having this year's Sherfield equivalent play a pivotal role in meaningful games.

[longtimebillsfan]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

It’s the biggest problem. You can argue he’s done a great job with DL depth every year, it’s doesn’t change that the WR group has been completely mismanaged.

Look at our winning record  during Beanes time  with the Bills.  The division championships,  the playoff wins.

 

So the wr group was not up to your stanard.  Wa wa wa.

 

Mahomes is the reason we have not been to the super bowl.   Nit our wide receivers.

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Thanks but I liked @FireChans "don't p!ss on our heads and tell us it's raining better" though. 

 

It's a message board we are going to draw distinctions between winning SB's versus getting beaten in the divisional round every year.    

 

If you think it's all the same level of accomplishment.........that's your prerogative to feel that way but the objective of the game is, in fact,  to win the SB.   

 

  The standard is the standard and accepting that and "not enjoying" the ride are not necessarily the same thing.    Not that this past season was a joy ride for everyone involved with or following the Bills.   I mean ask Ken Dorsey if he'd have liked to have DHop.

OK course.  We would like to have a pro bowl player at every position. Who wouldn't? 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Look at our winning record  during Beanes time  with the Bills.  The division championships,  the playoff wins.

 

So the wr group was not up to your stanard.  Wa wa wa.

 

Mahomes is the reason we have not been to the super bowl.   Nit our wide receivers.

OK course.  We would like to have a pro bowl player at every position. Who wouldn't? 

Maybe if our receivers were better than Mahomes’, we would’ve been to a Super Bowl.

 

Unfortunately, we got stuck with Trent Sherfield and his alligator arm efforts led us to need a FG to tie in the closing minutes. Which was predictably shanked. 
 

No one is saying Beane sucks or the Bills suck. Their WR management and group has been overall insufficient. Who could argue this? No one.

 

I know you can’t even debate it because you hilariously aren’t even trying to. You just say things like, “we won the AFCE” like that has anything to do with the conversation. 
 

If you want to tell me that the investments into the WR group over the last 3 seasons have been good, I’d love to hear why. Otherwise, you just want to wave poms poms and you should just quit while you’re behind.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

14 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I wouldn't worry about the board members who don't like the signing.  You won't convince them to change their minds.

Going to be fun to unearth some takes come Fall though

[ngbills]

1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said:

 

I get the comparison to Beasley... He's LIKE Beasley, but he will be able to do so many other things for you do to speed.  John Brown Like Bubble screen type stuff.. Lil Dirty type stuff... at times run out of the backfield. Catch out of the backfield.  He's also not a Debo... but he can do a lot more things.. So just comparing him to Beasley does not do this guy justice. 

That is not doing Beasley justice. Beas had a better career pre Buffalo than Samuel. But I get what your saying - different players and different skillset. Samuel is more flexible and versatile than Beasley. Beasley was a better pure slot but Samuel adds more trickery, running out of the backfield, etc.

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Maybe if our receivers were better than Mahomes’, we would’ve been to a Super Bowl.

 

Unfortunately, we got stuck with Trent Sherfield and his alligator arm efforts led us to need a FG to tie in the closing minutes. Which was predictably shanked. 
 

No one is saying Beane sucks or the Bills suck. Their WR management and group has been overall insufficient. Who could argue this? No one.

 

I know you can’t even debate it because you hilariously aren’t even trying to. You just say things like, “we won the AFCE” like that has anything to do with the conversation. 
 

If you want to tell me that the investments into the WR group over the last 3 seasons have been good, I’d love to hear why. Otherwise, you just want to wave poms poms and you should just quit while you’re behind.

If Hopkins is a Bill in that playoff game vs KC the Bills win. No doubt. 

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

It would seem he's some sort of amalgam of McKenzie (gadget and jet sweeps), Harty (pure speed) and Shakir (size and slot receiving chops).  So, he's not a #2, but he definitely fills a role. 

 

Question:  Did you see 'pure speed' in Harty?

 

Because when his number was called for the Bills last year, I thought he looked slow. @Buffalo716 what say you?

 

I thought the reason we started seeing Diggs trying to do some gadget stuff from the backfield was because Harty just couldn't get 'er done.

[Motorin']

25 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Why are people so against…

 

… moves that clearly give JA17 more dangerous weapons

 

… having RBs/WRs who can be deployed all over the field

 

… being able to disguise which pass catchers are doing what (remember that pre-snap motion is a thing)

 

… stats showing Samuel is not strictly a slot WR but is a model of production consistency

 

… the idea that a “boundary WR” can be less than 6’3” 215 and still win because separation is actually the most important attribute

 

… ?

 

Add to that the idea that many formations in today's NFL allow  multiple receivers to lineup in "the" slot on either side of the field. So there's not just "one slot" or one slot receiver. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

29 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Why are people so against…

 

… moves that clearly give JA17 more dangerous weapons

 

… having RBs/WRs who can be deployed all over the field

 

… being able to disguise which pass catchers are doing what (remember that pre-snap motion is a thing)

 

… stats showing Samuel is not strictly a slot WR but is a model of production consistency

 

… the idea that a “boundary WR” can be less than 6’3” 215 and still win because separation is actually the most important attribute

 

… ?

They do this every year with at least a position and or signing.

[ColoradoBills]

Curtis Samuel has a fairly unique skillset.  Comparing him to Beasley or others is a waste of time IMO.

He has spent his entire career under Ron Rivera and with the dumpster QBs he was forced to play with, sure didn't help his career.

I cannot say for sure how he will be used in Buffalo and how successful he will be.

 

That said, I believe he is a decent receiver, and it will be up to Brady and Josh to make the signing a very good one or not.

Personally, I am happy with the signing BUT still want an outside WR on Day 1 or Day 2.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

10 minutes ago, ngbills said:

That is not doing Beasley justice. Beas had a better career pre Buffalo than Samuel. But I get what your saying - different players and different skillset. Samuel is more flexible and versatile than Beasley. Beasley was a better pure slot but Samuel adds more trickery, running out of the backfield, etc.

If Hopkins is a Bill in that playoff game vs KC the Bills win. No doubt. 

 

Not sure the Chiefs secondary in this age of defense possibly all time great to me with how defense nowdays.  I think only once over 25 points scored on them (Packers regular season game). Also if McDermott adjusted earlier (adjusted way to late) and not have Klein on Kelce is coaching. If had Milano and Bernard Bill's win I think.

 

I'm glad Samuel is here. Should help Bill's offense lots.

[Buffalo Super Fan]

The Buffalo Bills way overpaid for his services. What it tells me is either the coaching staff or management or both had discussions that they were dissatisfied with Gabe Davis’s play. Same with all our cuts we as fans look

at the salary cap savings. But for the Bills to offer Curtis Samuel the kind of money they offered it says everything how they feel about Gabe Davis regardless of what the Bills say publicly. Curtis Samuel for that money better perform and not drop football’s or the blame is squarely on Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane for the choices they made. Not the Bills fans or the Bills media. So I don’t want to hear Bills fans making excuses for Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane Curtis Samuel better play like Stefon Diggs and Andre Reed for that kind of money. If he is a free agent bust like Von Miller both McDermott and Beane should be fired if the Bills miss the playoffs. Why after 2024 season Buffalo Super Fan?
 

Because you want the new management to take over one year before moving into

the New Buffalo Bills Stadium so they can stack the Bills team for 2026 opening of the stadium. I have stated I think both Beane and especially McDermott are amateur hour wasting prime years of Josh Allen’s career. I want to also say I have talked about eventually Josh Allen will want out of Buffalo. The same holds true for Patrick Mahomes I don’t care if Patrick Mahomes wins 5 Super Bowls in Kansas City. Eventually he is going to want out of Kansas City for a large market to set himself up for success after pro football. Same with Joe Burrow. You aren’t doing that in Buffalo or Kansas City or Cincinnati or Cleveland or Pittsburgh or Green Bay that is just reality for cities like that. So you got to win now because they aren’t a huge media market and neither are those cities I mentioned so it’s not just a Buffalo thing or Buffalo Super Fan is piling on Buffalo. I look at sports in reality of present day sports.

 

I don’t care how great the new Buffalo Bills stadium is look at cities like Miami, Los Angeles and Las Vegas what they are building in the next 5 years you know Ralph Wilson’s cranes talk when he was alive. Look at the transportation infrastructure city’s like that are putting in a Motel 6 next to the new Bills stadium doesn’t make any difference you better win because the cities I mentioned are all falling behind and will be after thoughts for free agents. I sometimes wonder if Buffalo Bills fans ever look what other cities are building infrastructure wise. I don’t care if the Green Bay Packers are community owned I think they are going to be the Buffalo Sabres and Winnipeg Jets the last place on earth you want to sign with. The Bills got lucky Josh Allen dropped to us that is once every 20 years. So don’t encourage management and coaching squandering any slim chance the Bills have to win a Super Bowl. I saw Marv Levy squander Super Bowl XXV and for the next three years after that. The Bills have a moment in time at least Green Bay Packers have Super Bowls Championships for memories. Buffalo Bills don’t and the clock is ticking not on Josh Allen time in Buffalo but as Buffalo falls further and further behind. So don’t tell me we have forever Buffalo doesn’t we 17 years of ironclad guarantee NFL football left in Buffalo two more at the old stadium and 15 years at the new stadium. I want a Buffalo Bills Super Bowl no excuses my eyes are awake of the realities and challenges Buffalo faces long term as a NFL franchise that has any chance at winning a Super Bowl championship for Buffalo. Time is running out it isn’t just Josh Allen but for cities like Buffalo the growing economics of sports the writing is on the wall. I am not saying that the Buffalo Bills are going to move out of Buffalo in 17 years. I am saying the Buffalo Bills might just basically exist in the NFL like the New Orleans Pelicans in the NBA with next to zero chance of winning a NBA championship carry on in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

Edited March 15 by Buffalo Super Fan

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

We need more WR talent. I get it. But also we blocked playing time for Shakir and Hodgins (who both flashed when given reps) with Curtis Samuel, Deonte Harty, and Isaiah McKenzie (to an extent). 

 

I don't follow this logic at all. 

 

Shakir got more playing time when he earned it.  He saw the field ~1/3 of the time his rookie season and roughly saw 1 target every 14 snaps.  He only caught 50% of his targets and had 2 drops on 20 targets - 10%.  I wasn't impressed with his release or his routes.  I was legit impressed last season - I thought his route running and release took a big jump, he didn't drop a thing, his catch % soared, and 1/3 of his yards were YAC.  His increased playing time of >50% snaps reflected that - but he was still seeing 1 target every 13 snaps or so. 

I did see times when he was open and wasn't targeted.

 

But we also didn't see a lot of the intermediate and option routes Beasley used to run, and for all I thought Shakir really came on I also think there's a reason for that.  If Samuel can add those back to the repertoire it can only be good.

 

Harty last season saw 15% of the snaps on offense.  He wasn't blocking anyone.

Edited March 15 by Beck Water

[Buffalo716]

17 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Question:  Did you see 'pure speed' in Harty?

 

Because when his number was called for the Bills last year, I thought he looked slow. @Buffalo716 what say you?

 

I thought the reason we started seeing Diggs trying to do some gadget stuff from the backfield was because Harty just couldn't get 'er done.

I think at this point he's way quicker than pure blazing speed

 

He looked fast on his punt return TD but it didn't translate to offense much so it's a wash...  

 

I'm sure he can still blaze a fast 40 time... But on a condensed field you need to know how to use your speed... I think he struggled there 

[Beck Water]

23 minutes ago, ngbills said:

That is not doing Beasley justice. Beas had a better career pre Buffalo than Samuel. But I get what your saying - different players and different skillset. Samuel is more flexible and versatile than Beasley. Beasley was a better pure slot but Samuel adds more trickery, running out of the backfield, etc. 

 

Can you help me understand why you believe this is true?

Statistically, in the 4 years before Beasley came to Buffalo (which include his best years with Dallas), he averaged 57 receptions for 589 yds, 32 1D.

His best season with Dallas was 75 receptions for 833 yds, 51 1D.

 

In his 4 most recent full seasons, Samuel averaged 64 receptions for 687 yds, 34 1D.  His best season was with CAR, Joe Brady as OC: 77 receptions for 851 yds, 39 1D.

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

Trent Sherfield had 1 catch for 7 yards in 2 postseason games. Great work Beane!

 

Having players on your team like Trent Sherfield is the main reason we haven't sniffed the playoffs or division title in years.

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Having players on your team like Trent Sherfield is the main reason we haven't sniffed the playoffs or division title in years.

 

Yeah!  Oh....wait.....  

 

[TheBrownBear]

26 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Question:  Did you see 'pure speed' in Harty?

 

Because when his number was called for the Bills last year, I thought he looked slow. @Buffalo716 what say you?

 

I thought the reason we started seeing Diggs trying to do some gadget stuff from the backfield was because Harty just couldn't get 'er done.

At times (the punt return and on a couple of downfield shots), but obviously not enough.  I think he has great top speed, but not great short area quickness, which is why he never really worked in that gadget or slot role.  

[Maynard]

I like this okay. Guy has trouble staying healthy, so this shouldn’t preclude us from drafting a WR in the first. 

[BADOLBILZ]

27 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Maybe if our receivers were better than Mahomes’, we would’ve been to a Super Bowl.

 

Unfortunately, we got stuck with Trent Sherfield and his alligator arm efforts led us to need a FG to tie in the closing minutes. Which was predictably shanked. 
 

No one is saying Beane sucks or the Bills suck. Their WR management and group has been overall insufficient. Who could argue this? No one.

 

I know you can’t even debate it because you hilariously aren’t even trying to. You just say things like, “we won the AFCE” like that has anything to do with the conversation. 
 

If you want to tell me that the investments into the WR group over the last 3 seasons have been good, I’d love to hear why. Otherwise, you just want to wave poms poms and you should just quit while you’re behind.

 

 

 

Yeah what the diminishing returns at WR have done is reduce Allen's effectiveness as a passer and put a lot of hard miles on his body.

 

Allen broke out in 2020 but that wasn't supposed to be the pinnacle of his career............that's just what it's turned out to be.

 

He hasn't even come very close to matching that year as a passer in any regard.........passer rating, completion %, TD% or INT% you name it he has been significantly worse.

 

His passing yardage per game in 2023 was over 30 yards less than 2020...........at some point the fact that the good things are trending down and the bad things are trending up matters.

 

The common denominator in the decline has been the consistent decline in the quality of receiving targets.   

[FireChans]

6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Having players on your team like Trent Sherfield is the main reason we haven't sniffed the playoffs or division title in years.

Trent Sherfield is good because we won the AFCE and made the playoffs. I guess then AJ Klein is good, Elam is good, Mitch Trubisky is good, and Kyle Allen is good too. 
 

Hey, we made the playoffs! They can’t be bad. This makes sense.

[CapeBreton]

8 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Absolutely. Samuel is an ideal "screen guy". With Brady liking to throw those Im glad they identified that they needed someone with his skillset to run those rather than force it to Diggs. I anticipate those screens being more successful this season with Samuel.

 

I would cringe when they gave those screens to Diggs, he was already banged up and avoiding contact. Looking forward to watching Samuel create some YAC on those.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

2 hours ago, ngbills said:

It is okay if Samuel plays a Beasley type role for the Bills. I know many want to turn him into this #2 threat that is an upgrade over Davis and game changer. But that is not likely what this move is. Unless he breaks out after 7 years in the league and completely changes his game. Hey, that could happen I guess. 

I doubt that big-time! He's here to take snaps away from Shakir or maybe we don't take a Wr high in the draft either way to me that's bad news. 

[Royale with Cheese]

32 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Trent Sherfield is good because we won the AFCE and made the playoffs. I guess then AJ Klein is good, Elam is good, Mitch Trubisky is good, and Kyle Allen is good too. 
 

Hey, we made the playoffs! They can’t be bad. This makes sense.

 

I guess since Sherfield sucked, I guess that means Stefon Diggs sucked, Jordan Poyer sucked, Micah Hyde sucked, Mitch Morse sucked, Cole Beasley sucked....

Hey we haven't won the Super Bowl yet....everybody sucks that Beane brought on!

[Blackbeard]

Love the signing.  

 

Samuel is almost like a McCaffrey light,  but obviously a WR.

 

Versatile skill set and good hands.  SOLID.

[BananaB]

13 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

I doubt that big-time! He's here to take snaps away from Shakir or maybe we don't take a Wr high in the draft either way to me that's bad news. 

So now we have 3 guys that can play all over the field. What’s the problem? Who knows what they get in the draft but a more reliable target that just doesn’t run a handful of routes is definitely an upgrade. Maybe he’s here do take some snaps from Diggs. He wasn’t quite himself the second half of the season.

Edited March 15 by BananaB