SCBills Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: By the way, Samuel spent 75% of his time the last two years in the slot. Last I looked that was where Shakir excels. My guess.. Buffalo finally remembers that they should get 4 legit WR’s for Josh Allen. Diggs (outside) RD1/RD2 pick (outside) Samuel (slot) Shakir (WR4 inside/outside) Think back to how they used Diggs, Gabe, Beasley and Sanders. Edited March 15 by SCBills 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Bills shopping in the bargain bin and paying department store prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: His @$$ better be a 12 sack per season guy if we are giving up a WR @ #28. More about pressure rate and forcing offenses to scheme around him, and opening things up for the rest of the DL Edited March 15 by appoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Murdock Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 18 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: I didn’t want any WR FAs. The stats show that they usually underperform their contracts and we already have Kincaid, Diggs and Shakir. We have the underneath stuff covered. Samuel is a 650 yards receiver who doesn’t win catch battles. A Rookie receiver drafted 20-40 over the last 5 years has averaged about 700 yards as a rookie. We need someone who can stretch the field, not another mediocre underneath presence. Now play this out. What will the people on this board say if we draft someone like Mitchell or Worthy at 28 and they drive Samuel to the bench? What will they say when Samuel drops some key 3rd down catches, which he does with regularity? They’ll say why did Beane waste money of this guy. I was really happy with how this offseason was going, but these two terrible WR signings make me really wonder what Beane is doing for the offense. I remember who you are now. Your the guy on the game day first half threads that always claims the games over after the Bills have to punt in the 1st quarter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, appoo said: More about pressure rate and forcing offenses to scheme around him, and opening things up for the rest of the DL We’re doing this. I’d be shocked if we don’t now. Chop at 28 and then a trade up in RD2 for Coleman or Legette. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: By the way, Samuel spent 75% of his time the last two years in the slot. Last I looked that was where Shakir excels. Did the Pats struggle to make it work with both Amendola and Edelman who both played slot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: My guess.. Buffalo finally remembers that they should get 4 legit WR’s for Josh Allen. Diggs (outside) RD1/RD2 pick (outside) Samuel (slot) Shakir (WR4 inside/outside) Think back to how they used Diggs, Gabe, Beasley and Sanders. Still hoping we draft a couple WRs in this draft not just one. It’s where the most value is by far. Neve seen a WR class this good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Excellent signing. Good RAC guy. Good hands as well. Upgraded. I am excited about his nearly 70% catch rate. Now go out and draft Brian Thomas. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: My guess.. Buffalo finally remembers that they should get 4 legit WR’s for Josh Allen. Diggs (outside) RD1/RD2 pick (outside) Samuel (slot) Shakir (WR4 inside/outside) Think back to how they used Diggs, Gabe, Beasley and Sanders. Samuel is an outside threat. Why is this so damn hard to understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: My real worry is that they view this as making WR optional in RD1. I could 100% see them going DL at 28 and then potentially trading up in RD2. I will be jaw dropped to the floor if they dont go WR in the first 2 rounds. Of they trade up in the second. Like way up. The problem is you just never know. All these dude that are projected high can get outplayed by a 5 rounder. Strange things sometimes the way that goes but I just don't want to leave WR up to chance. If any of that made sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Draft player comp was Percy Harvin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 7 minutes ago, appoo said: More about pressure rate and forcing offenses to scheme around him, and opening things up for the rest of the DL I want sacks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 20 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: I’d love to be wrong, but I doubt I will be. Go compare Samuel’s stats to Shakir’s. Shakir is taller, has similar speed and is significantly more clutch. Shakir averages 50% more yards per catch than Samuel. What does Samuel being that we don’t already have? Nothing. I love Shakir and think he potentially could be a#2 at some point. You are picking only the data you want. How about the post having Samuel at 3rd in the NFL on separation? Don’t like that ? It doesn’t support your arguments. You are providing only what you want to see.. and zero possibility of upside given Allen, the Bills OL, Cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Samuel is an outside threat. Why is this so damn hard to understand? It’s not. He’s a 50/50 inside/outside guy. Diggs, Samuel and Shakir can all move around, but if we draft a WR in the first 40 picks or so… Shakir, imo, becomes a heavy use WR4 in a four man rotation. Edited March 15 by SCBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 31 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: Davis - Yards/Reception for his career 16.7. Yards/game 42.7. Success % 51.5 Samuel - Yards/reception for his career 10.7. Yards/game 37.2. Success % 48 Not sure how he is an upgrade on anything. He doesn’t stretch the field as well as Davis, he does gain more yards despite more catches, and he doesn’t help 1st downs at a greater rate than Davis. Do you know the other thing he doesn’t do as well as Davis? He doesn’t stay as healthy. You must have missed the 4 or 5 posts that listed the QBs he played with... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, SCBills said: It’s not. He’s a 50/50 inside/outside guy. Diggs, Samuel and Shakir can all move around. And that is damn hard to cover 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 19 minutes ago, DrMaxPower said: When this leads to Chop Robinson rd1 this place is going nuclear... Not saying I still don’t want a wr at 28 but Chop is really freaking good so Id be shocked if he’s there at 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Did the Pats struggle to make it work with both Amendola and Edelman who both played slot? The last year they played together Edelman had 1100 yards and Amendola 240. The best year they had together was Edelman 1050 yards to Amendola 650, but they had no decent boundary receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 23 minutes ago, ngbills said: Samuel - never wore a bills uniform = Will be an upgrade. that is always the mindset on this board. I think he will be solid. But I also thought crowder and sanders would. We will see but anyone outside of these walls sees Davis as the better player. Love Gabe Davis. Not at $ 13M so the Bills get Samuel and resign other players. Crowder got injured and Sanders was ok. Outside these walls a lot of people are thinking the Jags overpaid. Not that they have ever done that repeatedly with WRs 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: He’s a 50/50 inside/outside guy. He’s not even that. He is a 75% slot guy who plays outside some, but more often in the backfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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