NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: With Cousins getting $45M today, $56M might be about right next offseason. Cousins & his family having to make small talk with the toll booth attendant on their way to ATL… 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: You think so? I was thinking the $10-$12 million range. Gabe Davis just got around that. Ridley is far superior overall Now if we wanted Ridley bad enough we could structure a deal to bring his cap hit this season down to 10-12 Edited March 12 by Warriorspikes51 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, BBFL said: I really don’t get the Hollywood Brown train… He is the biggest WR “name” left ..other than Ridley who Is too expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Green Lightning said: $7 mil here and $5 mil here and pretty soon you're talking really money... Not with Josh Allen. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon. That’s the one thing we know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Gabe Davis just got around that. Ridley is far superior overall I agree, but he's also 29 and I would assume, deemed a risk post-gambling suspension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: You think so? I was thinking the $10-$12 million range. Gabe Davis just got 13m per year on a 3 year deal that can go up to 50m. Ridley should get more than that, but he definitely won't get less. Edited March 12 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 8 minutes ago, boyst said: Milano Good counterpoint ? team focused Stephie ? dont see it Johnson , likely 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: And what you don’t spend this year can be carried over. It makes no difference. Basically by not taking all of it tells me there’s a self imposed cash limit set by the owner. In other words the owner isn’t a blank check this year. That is my thought as well. Energy is down… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: It is. Deal with it. The cap is not real cash! It’s not. The cap # is real, but you can spend a lot more cash than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 13 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Can someone explain the downside of this? Like why wouldn’t every team in cap trouble just restructure as signing bonuses? I know it’s a dumb question. But I don’t know the answer. They do, but it only goes so far. Beane has been balancing it all very well, but it takes a savvy GM to make it all work. You also have to have an owner willing to write big checks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, MJS said: They do, but it only goes so far. Beane has been balancing it all very well, but it takes a savvy GM to make it all work. You also have to have an owner willing to write big checks. And to be fair to Pegula he has been spending like crazy. This might be a slow down year for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: He is the biggest WR “name” left ..other than Ridley who Is too expensive I mean, I get it. I just don’t know why there isn’t the hammering of the table for guys who are just as productive and will just as much or less… Curtis Samuel, Tyler Boyd, DPJ, Noah Brown… Even that Agnew kid. Eh, to each their own I guess. Ok maybe Samuel, but Hollywood is as much a consistent mention around here as Ridley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: And what you don’t spend this year can be carried over. It makes no difference. Basically by not taking all of it tells me there’s a self imposed cash limit set by the owner. In other words the owner isn’t a blank check this year. I think it's just Beane trying to get the cap situation under control this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 30 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Do we really need a new thread for this? Do your friends pass out Xanax at parties you attend? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Draconator said: Do your friends pass out Xanax at parties you attend? He is the provider… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I'm fine with Beane not taking every dollar out of Josh's contract. If he HAS to later, he can go back to the well. KC is doing the same with Mahomes. Mahomes has had $36M and $37M cap hits the last 2 years. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I love you, Josh Allen! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 33 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Can someone explain the downside of this? Like why wouldn’t every team in cap trouble just restructure as signing bonuses? I know it’s a dumb question. But I don’t know the answer. A few reasons: - Some don’t have the cash (literally). - Most teams simply don’t want to spend the maximum possible. - It’s used in negotiations. It’s difficult to tell a FA that you can’t pay him more when you’re sitting on a ton of cap space. - PR. It’s a bad look to the fans if you have cap space you’re not using, especially when your team isn’t performing as well as they’d like. - Fear of another Covid-style event where the cap decreases. That could potential be a huge issue. - Suspensions have less of an impact since game checks not paid to the player are not counted toward the cap. - Maximizing the use of signing bonuses can be done long term (see how the Browns are operating), but it can’t really be meshed with an “all in” play. Teams can stay the course or let their foot off the gas, but they can’t do much more in the way of ramping up spending. The Browns are spending at a rate of about 121% of the yearly cap IN CASH. That’s sustainable as long as the cap goes up at expected rates. Hope that helps. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: We could have gotten $23M but we chose not to kick all of it to future years. I guess they figured $16M is enough to do what they want to do in free agency. Seems like a smart idea to me. But if something comes up, can the Bills restructure it agin this off season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Seems like a smart idea to me. But if something comes up, can the Bills restructure it agin this off season? It looks like they left the extra as salary, so yes. If it was a roster bonus, then they could not once it was paid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 48 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The cap is not real cash! It’s not. The cap # is real, but you can spend a lot more cash than that. "..and then one day the rain came and washed all the crops away..." I get it, but eventually you have to make good on what you spend. It's not monopoly money. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Seems like a smart idea to me. But if something comes up, can the Bills restructure it agin this off season? Don’t think they can do anything again this year. But could be wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Just like you…we’re in the same support group remember Hey just doing my part to cut down on redundant threads. It’s very important here Im not sure why, but when you post, I think of this guy 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Good for Josh not to add any years to his contract. I can see Josh bolting to California after 2026 to be with his girlfriend Hailee 1 2 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, UKBillFan said: Every time I log out for a bit something Bills related happens. Dawkins, Davis, Floyd, AJE, Josh… maybe I ought to sign off again. Sign off before the playoffs start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Good for Josh not to add any years to his contract. I can see Josh bolting to California after 2026 to be with his girlfriend Hailee Might be wife by then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Virgil said: Interesting. I would have assumed we'd have saved more, but I guess that means we are under the cap now. Who's left at this point? I would think only Oliver. I don't want us to touch Diggs and kick the can down the road, unless he wants to give some money back like Knox and Von (doubtful). I'm wondering when we give him a new overall deal though. He's well worth more than his deal. T Johnson Unless I missed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Guys, we aren't that much under the cap. 14.8 over, Josh gets us over the cap, then say 12 mill for the other 2 deals. Then subtract AJ's money. We aren't flush with cash. Speak for your self some days I have 3.83 cents in my pocket, 12 million is flush 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 We are getting Josh cheap. He's a true team guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, stuvian said: We are getting Josh cheap. He's a true team guy Not for long. I’d imagine he’ll get a new contract rather soon like next offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 13 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Might be wife by then. I know there's alot of old farts on this board that haven't had an erection in 10+ years. But think back when you were young. Don't you all remember the power and passion of young love ? Well do you ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 22 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Good for Josh not to add any years to his contract. I can see Josh bolting to California after 2026 to be with his girlfriend Hailee If he doesn’t win a couple super bowls by then, he’s gone for sure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, Trev said: If he doesn’t win a couple super bowls by then, he’s gone for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 26 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Good for Josh not to add any years to his contract. I can see Josh bolting to California after 2026 to be with his girlfriend Hailee Interesting concept of Josh Bolting to California after 2026. Maybe explain how he's getting out of the 2027 and 2028 portion of his current contract.......waiting with popcorn..... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 26 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Good for Josh not to add any years to his contract. I can see Josh bolting to California after 2026 to be with his girlfriend Hailee In the case of someone like Allen, if his contract is paying him $56 mil next season, likely higher in 2026, would it be a bargain or at worst a wash for the Bills to just keep tagging him at least for a couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I've got to say, I'm happy with this approach. I worry about short-term cap decisions that hurt us later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, bills6969 said: Ok, making room for Derrick Henry. Excellent kill me now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, JohnNord said: That wasn’t very nice to say about @Draconator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 39 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s already fed up. McD better get his house in order and stop capping his potential. It’s going to come down to McD or Allen, by then it’ll be too late. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Interesting. Over the cap and sporttrac had a restructure getting us 23 mill in cap room. It all depends how much of his base salary they agree to turn into a bonus. They could have agreed on a different amount. So it could've been up to 23 mil. Also could have been less than 16 mil. I hope that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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