Mat68 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: The top end was tagged a year ago with jacobs, barkley, and pollard all getting it. Factoring in what they all received last year - all are basically getting a similar number AAV. Swift, Henry, Jones, Ekeler all available this year too. It was a pretty loaded market. Looking at this list - i don't see anyone who i'd pay left. Let someone else overpay. Patterson - Old and a KR only guy Mattison - Bad Elliott - bursts of good, but he was always a big hitter and now he's hitting singles instead of homers CEH - still young, coming off a terrible season Akers - still young, coming off a terrible season Foreman - big fast dude in the murray mold Scott - Put him next to damien harris Harris - See scott, plus an injury Dobbins - Can't see much of a market with all the injuries Hunt - Didn't even lead his team in carries after chubb was hurt so... i'd assume hes trending down Dillon - Big.. fast... not sure he's very dynamic though. Mckinnon - pretty much 3rd down only, would take away some cook snaps in those situations. Not an upgrade over cook, but an upgrade over murray playing on third downs blocking. Dillon than Foreman. Dillon on a modest deal imo pairs well with Cook. Do the short yardage stuff plus can function as a back up. Foreman can offer the same just a notch below imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Dillon than Foreman. Dillon on a modest deal imo pairs well with Cook. Do the short yardage stuff plus can function as a back up. Foreman can offer the same just a notch below imo. Dillon just had one of the worst seasons you can have as a RB. I wouldn't want him on the team at all, or pay him more than vet. minimum. I'd rather stick with Ty Johnson then even take a flier on AJ Dillon. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said: Did you watch the last 8 games of the season? Someone pointed out that Diggs’ 2023 was a rerun of his 2022. Fantastic first half and miserable second half. No idea what to make of this other than it’s going to be interesting watching him in 2024. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, st pete gogolak said: Someone pointed out that Diggs’ 2023 was a rerun of his 2022. Fantastic first half and miserable second half. No idea what to make of this other than it’s going to be interesting watching him in 2024. Sit him the first half and save it all for the second… 🤔😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 19 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: Someone pointed out that Diggs’ 2023 was a rerun of his 2022. Fantastic first half and miserable second half. No idea what to make of this other than it’s going to be interesting watching him in 2024. I think it’s too much wear and tear on him. His 2022 final 8 games were slightly more productive than his 2023, but that is a great observation. He can still be a 85-90 catch guy, a true #1, but also not have 160 targets anymore. Get this man on a pitch count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Albany,n.y. Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Drew Lock to the Giants to replace Tyrod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, Draconator said: Wasn’t he reportedly signing with Seattle as of yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I don’t think he had the coverage IQ that McBeane likes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Hmm. Let’s see if this moves the safety market some. After the initial rush it’s been quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I don’t think he had the coverage IQ that McBeane likes And Rapp does? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, BrainwashedBillsFan said: And Rapp does? Rapp is aggressive, but his football IQ has always been in high regard, dating back to even his pre-draft scouting. He knows angles and where to be, he just kills anyone who is there. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Bums me out. He and Geno Stone were my favorite safety targets, and both are off the market. The Cover 1 guys liked Alohi Gilman, but he's off the market, too. I still expect the Bills to sign a safety, but the longer they go without doing so, the more I begin to suspect that a high draft pick may be used on one, and that Rapp may actually start at SS. Huh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Rapp is aggressive, but his football IQ has always been in high regard, dating back to even his pre-draft scouting. He knows angles and where to be, he just kills anyone who is there. Including his own teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, Logic said: Bums me out. He and Geno Stone were my favorite safety targets, and both are off the market. The Cover 1 guys liked Alohi Gilman, but he's off the market, too. I still expect the Bills to sign a safety, but the longer they go without doing so, the more I begin to suspect that a high draft pick may be used on one, and that Rapp may actually start at SS. Huh. Good safeties can be found late in the draft. Hyde and poyer, for instance, were both late rd picks I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 8 minutes ago, Logic said: Bums me out. He and Geno Stone were my favorite safety targets, and both are off the market. The Cover 1 guys liked Alohi Gilman, but he's off the market, too. I still expect the Bills to sign a safety, but the longer they go without doing so, the more I begin to suspect that a high draft pick may be used on one, and that Rapp may actually start at SS. Huh. I still expect them to sign a safety in FA …whom will be the expected starter … it’s a little risky to be going into the draft with this as a need .. Appears the Safety market is a bit hotter then what was anticipated by most The Bills will probably be signing one of the guys still on the shelf in a couple of weeks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Well hopefully this means Curl is signing with the Bills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Turbo44 said: Good safeties can be found late in the draft. Hyde and poyer, for instance, were both late rd picks I believe and they weren’t immeadiate starters … they still have a hole to fill … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Aussie Joe said: I still expect them to sign a safety in FA …whom will be the expected starter … it’s a little risky to be going into the draft with this as a need .. Appears the Safety market is a bit hotter then what was anticipated by most The Bills will probably be signing one of the guys still on the shelf in a couple of weeks I agree, I just think that the quality of guys left at safety leaves a bit to be desired, and will soon get to the point that it's no more desirable than starting a rookie. That said, I fully acknowledge that I had never heard of Jordan Poyer prior to the Bills signing him, and I likely considered him a "special teams and depth guy that a rookie will push to the bench" when he signed here. McDermott and Beane obviously know better than I do. Still, I liked Chinn, and he didn't sign for much, and it's a deal I would have been happy for the Bills to have done. Alas, they must've either not liked the player, not liked the price, or both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 At this point, if Poyer is still out there, would Beane offer him 3-4 mil on a 1-yr deal? I think we could do much worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Logic said: Still, I liked Chinn, and he didn't sign for much, and it's a deal I would have been happy for the Bills to have done. Alas, they must've either not liked the player, not liked the price, or both. Just saw his money … cheap..would have signed him for that Beane playing comp pick bingo though I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Just saw his money … cheap..would have signed him for that Beane playing comp pick bingo though I think You're probably right. I'll be honest, I don't love the idea of foregoing the signing of talented young veterans who can help this team NOW for the theoretical dangled carrots that are future 4th and 5th round compensatory picks. Beane played compensatory pick bingo this past offseason and lost, and the Bills only have a 4th to show for it, after thinking they'd get a 3rd. I know some here love comp picks as a team building strategy, but if it's between a few key FAs and a 4th or 5th round pick, I'd prefer the players. I may be alone on this island. Comp picks are simply not enough of a sure thing, and come from a process that is way less than transparent. Simply not a fan of planning one's talent acquisition strategy around it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Well hopefully this means Curl is signing with the Bills Why didn't they just retain Curl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 27 minutes ago, Logic said: Bums me out. He and Geno Stone were my favorite safety targets, and both are off the market. The Cover 1 guys liked Alohi Gilman, but he's off the market, too. I still expect the Bills to sign a safety, but the longer they go without doing so, the more I begin to suspect that a high draft pick may be used on one, and that Rapp may actually start at SS. Huh. I'm not saying you're wrong but ugggggggggh. I'm fine with Rapp as a fringe S starter but he's not a long term fix. So we cut Poyer for the guy Poyer started over and need to fill both FS AND WR2 in the draft if we stand pat. That does not give a huge window of options 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 Coming out in the draft the question on him was "is he a LB or a safety?" Four years later that question still hasn't been answered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 43 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Good safeties can be found late in the draft. Hyde and poyer, for instance, were both late rd picks I believe Yeah but there's a developmental process for that. Neither really came into their own until their third or later season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I trust McD and Beane with safties. They have a good track record with identifying talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 59 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Good safeties can be found late in the draft. Hyde and poyer, for instance, were both late rd picks I believe Maybe so, but they were not NFL good for several years. The Bills need a FS and are going to need to sign someone. It is very disappointing that they are dragging their feet on this one, but I am sure thee is a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, FLFan said: Maybe so, but they were not NFL good for several years. The Bills need a FS and are going to need to sign someone. It is very disappointing that they are dragging their feet on this one, but I am sure thee is a plan. All true - there are a lot of UFA safeties - I’m sure Beane will sign one but isn’t paying a lot. Otherwise he would have kept poyer at $6m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Down here in Cincinnati this is big news today: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Jefferson-to-Bengals-rumors?page=2 Supposedly it would involve Higgens and 2 1st round picks to land JJ from the Vikings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 9 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Down here in Cincinnati this is big news today: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Jefferson-to-Bengals-rumors?page=2 Supposedly it would involve Higgens and 2 1st round picks to land JJ from the Vikings! No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: No. I don't believe it either but my daughter in law who is a big Bengal's fan says it was blowing up her social media! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said: Down here in Cincinnati this is big news today: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Jefferson-to-Bengals-rumors?page=2 Supposedly it would involve Higgens and 2 1st round picks to land JJ from the Vikings! That’s a lot for Jefferson, Higgens is a pretty good receiver plus giving up two first round picks? No way! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said: Down here in Cincinnati this is big news today: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Jefferson-to-Bengals-rumors?page=2 Supposedly it would involve Higgens and 2 1st round picks to land JJ from the Vikings! Ah, so some Cincy fans are just as delusional as some Bills fans. Good to know. People acting like since they couldn't re-sign Cousins, Minnesota's going into full on sell mode. They were always aware of this possibility. They placed a price on Cousins and were fine with going to the Draft for his replacement if it went out of their range. They aren't sitting their like "sh-t couldn't get Cousins, well time to trade the best young WR in the NFL". There's no legitimate reports of a Jefferson trade being a real thing. Just fans running away with their "wouldn't it be cool?" thoughts and wishing for something that isn't there. They have to re-up Chase soon. Higgins is one thing. But in no scenario can you carry Burrow, Jefferson, and Chase on the same billing book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Why didn't they just retain Curl? New regime. Maybe he’s too expensive. Who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 hours ago, bills6969 said: I trust McD and Beane with safties. They have a good track record with identifying talent They signed Poyer and Hyde 7 years ago, that’s it. We had guys sitting behind them for a few years nd when they had the opportunity to play they sucked. Keep hearing we trust these guys with DBs but other then poyer, Hyde white and Johnson there has been a lot of up and down play from everyone else when called upon. They even wasted a first round pick on Elam and he’s hardly seen the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) So, if we’re not allowed to talk about this.. delete, as I’m not trying to be political, but Rich Cimini just reported that the domain name KennedyRodgers.com has been registered with GoDaddy last week, and it’s the only one out of the finalists on RFK’s list. Jets fans are now pointing out how the Jets met with a bunch of QBs at combine and had a heavy contingent at Bo Nix pro-day today. And according to NY reporters, it’s radio silence from everyone right now. Id still be shocked if this happened, but why is the domain name taken haha?.. Edited March 13 by SCBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 10 minutes ago, SCBills said: So, if we’re not allowed to talk about this.. delete, as I’m not trying to be political, but Rich Cimini just reported that the domain name KennedyRodgers.com has been registered with GoDaddy last week, and it’s the only one out of the finalists on RFK’s list. Jets fans are now pointing out how the Jets met with a bunch of QBs at combine and had a heavy contingent at Bo Nix pro-day today. And according to NY reporters, it’s radio silence from everyone right now. Id still be shocked if this happened, but why is the domain name taken haha?.. Kennedy has about as much of a chance of winning the election as I do. Rodgers would have to have completely lost his mind on a psychedelic journey to give up his comeback (and quite possibly his career) on a futile bid to become Vice President. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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