947 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) This makes me a bit more hesitant to trade up in RD1. I think I might reach out to Denver with that RD4 pick and see if we can get a deal for Sutton done. Edited March 8 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 THIS IS BS!!!! We were supposed to be pick 99 and instead the Niners who get AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF COMP PICKS take our spot 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Ha! Take THAT, New England!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Now I would really like Beane to trade down in Round 1 if possible, even to the top of Round 2 if needed. The realistic WR targets there - Coleman, Franklin, Legette - are likely still going to be available a few picks later. Get a 3rd rounder if at all possible. Also with all of these day 3 picks in our bag I would actually use all of them, don't be tempted to trade them away to move up the board. We need the bottom of our roster to get a lot cheaper and start maximizing the value of day 3 rookie contracts. If we plan it right we will be able to make one splash signing in FA because we won't have all our money tied up in overpaid rotational/depth players. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Not sure. Maybe the league’s formula changed? OTC had been nailing all of the comp picks for years. They seemed to have it all dialed in. I’m shocked. There needs to be an explanation they make public …and even an avenue to appeal this decision 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<bills4life> Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I could not disagree more. The teams that actually develop the minority coaches and GMs and help them become quality performers are the ones that should be rewarded. Actually no one should be awarded a damn thing. 2 1 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 For the love of god make the talk about trading picks to move up stop. Are we going to fill out this roster with undrafted guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: THIS IS BS!!!! We were supposed to be pick 99 and instead the Niners who get AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF COMP PICKS take our spot Yep, and then when the 49ers are good again next year, Brock Purdy will continue to get talked about as league MVP, when he’ll have a stacked roster around himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: There needs to be an explanation they make public …and even an avenue to appeal this decision That’s not going to happen publicly. The NFL will not disclose their formula. I’m sure the Bills could ask the league. But what are they going to say? “Hey, we expected that pick that had not been awarded to us - and that we don’t know the formula for - to be higher. What the hell is going on?” Edited March 8 by BarleyNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 If we're going to reward teams for hiring coaches based on ___________ how about awarding teams who invested $$$$ to build a stadium. WHAT A JOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I could not disagree more. The teams that actually develop the minority coaches and GMs and help them become quality performers are the ones that should be rewarded. Why not both? Shouldnt be more than a 6th though. I still say Daboll is more black than Mike McDaniel. Edited March 8 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 This is massive bullspit... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: That’s not going to happen publicly. The NFL will not disclose their formula. I’m sure the Bills could ask the league. But what are they going to say? “Hey, we expected that pick that had not been awarded to us to be higher. What they hell is going on?” Well … this is the problem if the practice is arbitrary … there should be defined parameters… The awarding of picks for minority hires should not be an overriding driver of this system which primarily exists to offset a team losing an established player they have developed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 15 minutes ago, 947 said: JFC… 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Why not both? Shouldnt be more than a 6th though. I still say Daboll is more black than Mike McDaniel. I think because the point is to develop minority candidates, not create an affirmative action plan. If the hiring team was compensated then there is always the question of whether they were the best candidate. A team could also name a minority as GM in name only. The hiring team’s reward is getting the best candidate for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 41 minutes ago, MJS said: What's the formula for determining these, anyway? I understand the net loss aspect, but not how they determine the round, etc. Typically you cancel out closest comparable players in/out and then the remaining losses are the slotted in by average salary signed. Usually incredibly predictable year to year, even though exact thresholds aren’t shared, because you can estimate the line and add a few percentage points similar to cap inflation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 9 Isles Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 33 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yikes. Bad look for us to be operating under the assumption of a 3rd. Beane better start developing some minority coaches if we ever want to play the comp pick game apparently. Can’t wait to have our DC & OC both hired in the next few years for nothing. So the NFL using minorities as a commodity……. 🤔 this has never gone wrong before. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) This is really annoying, it doesn't make any sense to create a system to incentivize the promoting and developing of minority coaches with comp picks only to have it also effect the system used for comp picks that's supposed to help balance things from teams losing good players in FA. Why have those interconnected? Edited March 8 by Warcodered 5 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: We were the lowest 3rd and a minority coach got hired. Last season weren’t there six 3rd round comp picks awarded? This season it’s 4. Not sure how that can be it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I thought this **** was calculated, and based on a formula or something, where it was a fact we were getting a third round pick. Does anyone ACTUALLY know how this works? What a dumb system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 51 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Yeah WTH??? It's been a 3rd this entire time. NFL sticking to Buffalo again. The NFL hates us. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 50 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Yeah WTH??? It's been a 3rd this entire time. NFL sticking to Buffalo again. Good(forNothing)ell Experiment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Process said: I thought this **** was calculated, and based on a formula or something, where it was a fact we were getting a third round pick. Does anyone ACTUALLY know how this works? What a dumb system. It's a formula that the NFL has kept secret, but there's been enough comp picks awarded that people have figured the formula out. It's shocking to see a pick not awarded as expected. I can't remember the last time (ever?) this happened 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 43 minutes ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said: This is more exciting than signing Mitch Trubisky 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 25 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: There needs to be an explanation they make public …and even an avenue to appeal this decision So is this the Edmunds pick?....it was always slated at 99? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: So is this the Edmunds pick?....it was always slated at 99? Yes … they have designated it a fourth round… not third Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Yikes. This is bad. I mean, with two 4th's and 3 5th's we can probably make a deal to get us back into Round 3. But that's still costing us picks in a trade up we weren't planning on making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Yes … they have designated it a fourth round… not third Which is BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: It's shocking to see a pick not awarded as expected. I can't remember the last time (ever?) this happened Pegs better get on the blower to Roger and sort this **** out … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) Bengals fans are mad because they lost their starting safeties and only get two 6th round picks. I don’t know how much those two signed for in FA, but Beane was careful to navigate the cap to ensure we’d get a 3rd for Edmunds $18M/yr contract. He said he even spoke to people to make sure his signings weren’t jeopardizing that. Something does feel wrong here. Edited March 8 by Brand J 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Yes … they have designated it a fourth round… not third Un...F-ing....believeable? 1 minute ago, Brand J said: Bengals fans are made because they lost their starting safeties and only get two 6th round picks. I don’t know how much those two signed for in FA, but Beane was careful to navigate the cap to ensure we’d get a 3rd for Edmunds $18M/yr contract. He said he even spoke to people to make sure his signings weren’t jeopardizing that. Something does feel wrong here. I'm calling the league and appealing this crap. This isn't right. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 53 minutes ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said: This is more exciting than signing Mitch Trubisky i just got out of the bathroom..that was more exciting than hiring Trubisky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: There is no set limit but there are parameters. I am pretty certain that has knocked us out. This is false. The NFL awarded 9 third-round comp picks in 2022. https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-awards-39-compensatory-2022-nfl-draft-picks-to-16-teams There were 8 last year too. Maybe when we aim to get a 3rd next time we'll let a WR walk. Honestly, I won't be shocked if Gabe Davis nets us a fourth given that he plays a premium dollar position. Edited March 8 by dave mcbride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Beane is about to go scorched earth to stick it to the rest of the league Just like when McKissic / WSH clowned us. INCOMING MASSIVE MOVE LETS GO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) How was our pick #99 in literally every mock draft and now it's not? I thought these were determined already Edited March 8 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Brutal for any trade up thoughts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 31 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: If we're going to reward teams for hiring coaches based on ___________ how about awarding teams who invested $$$$ to build a stadium. WHAT A JOKE The idea that the Bills were not awarded a third round pick based on the minority hiring situation is false. There were 7 third round comp picks handed out last year and 9 the year before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Stop with the comp pick games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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