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14 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Jerry Sullivan talking facts...

 

 

 

 

Jerry Sullivan thinking that leadership involves talking to #######s like him is part of the reason that Jerry Sullivan is an #######

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2 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

This obviously does NOT apply to everyone as I know there are good people out there

 

look as a human I feel for him. As an employee, I don't feel bad for him that he missed. He gets paid a lot of money to make this kicks. No one feels bad for me when I mess up at my job BUT to treat a person like garbage because of a game?  All this bull crap about the Bills Madia being family, is pretty much that. Bull crap. It only exists when we are winning?  Stop throwing ice balls. Stop treating people like trash. 

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In person I doubt this kind of crap happens, I remember seeing video of when the Bills came back from losing the Super Bowl and the fans cheered for Norwood and that's really kind of a special moment in and of itself, but you better believe it would have been awful if twitter existed back then.

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15 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Jerry Sullivan thinking that leadership involves talking to #######s like him is part of the reason that Jerry Sullivan is an #######

Jerry is a *****.  But the captains need to stick around and answer questions IMO

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18 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

In person I doubt this kind of crap happens, I remember seeing video of when the Bills came back from losing the Super Bowl and the fans cheered for Norwood and that's really kind of a special moment in and of itself, but you better believe it would have been awful if twitter existed back then.

For sure. We just don't have empathy like we did. I feel for Bass in regard to how it must feel to miss that kick. Would want to crawl under a rock and hide. Do you remember, was it leodis  mckelvin that had his yard vandalized when he fumbled that return. I was trying to remember who it was that got similar treatment. 

33 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Jerry Sullivan thinking that leadership involves talking to #######s like him is part of the reason that Jerry Sullivan is an #######

I see your point but not everyone is Jerry Sullivan. Thankfully

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15 minutes ago, akcash said:

I was at the game last night. It hurt real bad


how does one drive home after that? I was at the Cleveland Monday night game where Lindell missed wide right and it was humbling. I can’t imagine it being the last game of the season and just walking away from that. 

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2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


Allen threw this ball 65 yards in the air. From his 10 to the bills 25. Dropped it right in his hands. Could be the best throw he has ever made. 

I got Diggs as my picture   I love his dog mentality on the field but really starting to struggle with respecting him off the field 

53 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Jerry Sullivan thinking that leadership involves talking to #######s like him is part of the reason that Jerry Sullivan is an #######

I always disliked this man to put it kindly, but he has a point.  

Never did he say it involved speaking to him

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58 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:


how does one drive home after that? I was at the Cleveland Monday night game where Lindell missed wide right and it was humbling. I can’t imagine it being the last game of the season and just walking away from that. 

I was there last night, also there for that MNF game. And also was there last year vs Cincy. It sucks. Last night was a bit more disappointing but I was less angry. The Cincy game was a total WTF type experience but last night was another battle with the champs that we once again came up just short. Going through 4-5 plays in your head where if you get just one more of, you probably win. 

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This stat is….. my goodness

 

(he clarified on the Hardman fumble out of the end zone 

 

Still… how are we supposed to ever beat them with this?

 

 

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The crazy thing is that last year’s playoffs and this year’s playoffs were almost the same: have a tougher time at home than they should’ve against a third-string QB, then the D gets totally steamrolled the following week, again at home.

 

Someone’s “process” might be flawed…

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1 hour ago, SWATeam said:

Jerry is a *****.  But the captains need to stick around and answer questions IMO

 

They answer to their brothers.

Everybody else can get stuffed.

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The gameplan was such (Long drives minimal possessions) that it demanded near perfect execution. Those early 2 drives to get 3 points Allen had to overcome drops, fumbles, penalties etc. Yet they kept pounding. But once KC came out after half and in 3 min went ahead, then we answered, then they did again, I knew it was over. This Bills team throughout the year never demonstrated they could play mistake free. I don’t think you can ask Josh to play mistake free either as it removes his playing advantage. They came damn close though. I feel for the players more than anything because they fought consistently this year. But bad game plans and poor execution was a constant battle this year.

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13 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

They answer to their brothers.

Everybody else can get stuffed.

I just think it’s kind of crappy that you have Trent Sherfield sitting there answering questions for the receivers while the captain slinks out.  

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1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

Jerry Sullivan thinking that leadership involves talking to #######s like him is part of the reason that Jerry Sullivan is an #######

Once again I disagree. Sullivan was the only one in the Bills media that would ask the tough questions. He was very critical of coaches and players when not one other media soul would say a critical word. 

 

You might not like his style or questions but Sully was absolutely needed for balanced reporting. Of course, I suspect you have no interest in balanced reporting. Anyone who asks the tough questions or is critical of the Bills players and coaches probably takes a seat in the back of the bus. 

 

So its no surprise, you would take your shot at Sully. With his departure, the Bills reporters are a bunch of boot lickers. They have let McD placate them like a puppet master. Pulling strings like a seasoned ventriloquist. Sully wasn't a boot licker. He asked the tough questions for many Bills fans. He was for accountability. Sure he crossed the line at times. Crossing the line is a five line when you are asking difficult questions, trying to get answers, and holding people accountable. Everything in Bills world isn't a bouquet of roses at One Bills Drive. 

 

Instead we are left with softies like Matt Parrino, Alaina Getzenburg, Sal C, Chris Brown, and Maddy Glab. Soft ballers isn't inaccurate here. Surely, they get your stamp of approval. 

 

This Bills fan misses Sully. In fact, I follow him on Twitter. I always welcome his viewpoint and commend him for stoic  efforts as a solid reporter. Fans disliked him because many prefer a rosey outlook, excuse making,  optimism, and wait til next year. Sound familiar? Stick around here and you will see what I'm talking about. 

 

The Bills media needs more Sully types. 

1 hour ago, SWATeam said:

Jerry is a *****.  But the captains need to stick around and answer questions IMO

So Jerry has a point? How ironic is that? 

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31 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Once again I disagree.

 

I don't give a ***** what you think and I'm 10 seconds from removing your troll ass from here permanently for annoying my people.

I've been genuinely contemplating picking somebody to completely eviscerate and then giving myself a week long suspension for it.

Welcome to the list.

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8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Once again I disagree. Sullivan was the only one in the Bills media that would ask the tough questions. He was very critical of coaches and players when not one other media soul would say a critical word. 

 

You might not like his style or questions but Sully was absolutely needed for balanced reporting. Of course, I suspect you have no interest in balanced reporting. Anyone who asks the tough questions or is critical of the Bills players and coaches probably takes a seat in the back of the bus. 

 

So its no surprise, you would take your shot at Sully. With his departure, the Bills reporters are a bunch of boot lickers. They have let McD placate them like a puppet master. Pulling strings like a seasoned ventriloquist. Sully wasn't a boot licker. He asked the tough questions for many Bills fans. He was for accountability. Sure he crossed the line at times. Crossing the line is a five line when you are asking difficult questions, trying to get answers, and holding people accountable. Everything in Bills world isn't a bouquet of roses at One Bills Drive. 

 

Instead we are left with softies like Matt Parrino, Alaina Getzenburg, Sal C, Chris Brown, and Maddy Glab. Soft ballers isn't inaccurate here. Surely, they get your stamp of approval. 

 

This Bills fan misses Sully. In fact, I follow him on Twitter. I always welcome his viewpoint and commend him for stoic  efforts as a solid reporter. Fans disliked him because many prefer a rosey outlook, excuse making,  optimism, and wait til next year. Sound familiar? Stick around here and you will see what I'm talking about. 

 

The Bills media needs more Sully types. 

So Jerry has a point? How ironic is that? 


Take a shot for every time you read tough/difficult question or balanced reporting in this diatribe. 🥃

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1 minute ago, Best Williams Available said:


Take a shot for every time you read tough/difficult question or balanced reporting in this diatribe. 🥃

 

I'm too galdanged old to drink like that anymore :lol:

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10 hours ago, cgg716 said:

Defense even when it's healthy doesn't come through in big games. Were they injured? Sure... is their any reason to believe we don't see a rerun? Absolutely not. Mcd put Klein out there and left him for dead. A true defensive specialist wouldn't do that. As always good coaching can overcome a lot, and the bills don't have a good coach 

 

Left him for dead?? 😂 Who did you want to leave uncovered? I also love the flip "Were they injured? Sure." All your good players were injured!!! That has an impact!

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16 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Left him for dead?? 😂 Who did you want to leave uncovered? I also love the flip "Were they injured? Sure." All your good players were injured!!! That has an impact!

It's happened when they are healthy too. 4 punts in 3 playoff games against a coach who's supposedly a defensive specialist. And for the record it's anyone but Klein on Kelce, should have happened well before the 4th. Bad coach, full stop

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1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

I got Diggs as my picture   I love his dog mentality on the field but really starting to struggle with respecting him off the field 

I always disliked this man to put it kindly, but he has a point.  

Never did he say it involved speaking to him

I had no idea till I saw this angle that the corner literally falls down behind him and if he simply catches the ball he could have moonwalked into the endzone my goodness 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Best Williams Available said:

The gameplan was such (Long drives minimal possessions) that it demanded near perfect execution. Those early 2 drives to get 3 points Allen had to overcome drops, fumbles, penalties etc. Yet they kept pounding. But once KC came out after half and in 3 min went ahead, then we answered, then they did again, I knew it was over. This Bills team throughout the year never demonstrated they could play mistake free. I don’t think you can ask Josh to play mistake free either as it removes his playing advantage. They came damn close though. I feel for the players more than anything because they fought consistently this year. But bad game plans and poor execution was a constant battle this year.

That gameplan was really the only chance they had. Did you see how wide open Kelce was ? They couldn’t match up worth a damn on defense and they knew it. Offense needed to play keep away with long methodical drives and have the ball at the end. Bills had the perfect set up at the end , just completely misplayed it. 

2 minutes ago, Success said:

Hadn't really thought about this - but every time the Chiefs have beaten us in the playoffs, they lost the following week.

 

This trend will likely continue. 

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2 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:


how does one drive home after that? I was at the Cleveland Monday night game where Lindell missed wide right and it was humbling. I can’t imagine it being the last game of the season and just walking away from that. 

 

I was at that game too. Brutal. I officially jumped off the Dick Jauron bandwagon that night.

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Anyone just feel helpless in regards to this team today?

 

It’s like watching someone you care about decide to stay in their toxic, dead-end relationship.

 

We all know what the problem is, but we can’t do anything about it. 
 

 

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4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Anyone just feel helpless in regards to this team today?

 

It’s like watching someone you care about decide to stay in their toxic, dead-end relationship.

 

We all know what the problem is, but we can’t do anything about it. 
 

 

Yes

That is exactly how I feel

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5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Anyone just feel helpless in regards to this team today?

 

It’s like watching someone you care about decide to stay in their toxic, dead-end relationship.

 

We all know what the problem is, but we can’t do anything about it. 
 

 

 

Just talking to the family about EXACTLY this.

 

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I think the biggest let down for me was the lack of pressure from the d line. Were the chiefs holding on every play or is kc line that good? Mahomes had a clean pocket for 95% of the game. You didn’t beat Brady that way and you’re not beating Mahomes that way either.

 

We come up with new focal points each year. This offseason I say forget about the defense, let’s get Josh all the weapons he needs. Let’s just focus on our scoring the opponent all year. 

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10 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said:

Were the chiefs holding on every play or is kc line that good?

 

It looks to me like the NFL told the refs to sit on the offensive holding penalties this postseason.  I've seen LOTS of holding in all games I've watched, hardly any flags to speak of.

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Kinda strange with the talk of Andy Reid and Kelce retiring when their season ends. That would mean KC possibly takes a step back.  and the Bills never get their playoff revenge against this version of the Chiefs.  Not that it’s a bad thing, just an observation. 

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1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I had no idea till I saw this angle that the corner literally falls down behind him and if he simply catches the ball he could have moonwalked into the endzone my goodness 

 

 

He wouldn't have scored, because he gets leg whipped by the safety of you watch to fill play. 

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18 minutes ago, Sandhill Mike said:

 

It looks to me like the NFL told the refs to sit on the offensive holding penalties this postseason.  I've seen LOTS of holding in all games I've watched, hardly any flags to speak of.

This makes me think why bother investing at all on defense? The NFL clearly wants high scoring games. 

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25 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Kinda strange with the talk of Andy Reid and Kelce retiring when their season ends. That would mean KC possibly takes a step back.  and the Bills never get their playoff revenge against this version of the Chiefs.  Not that it’s a bad thing, just an observation. 

Would be thrilled with even just one of the two hanging it up. It goes without saying we win this game if it’s anyone other than Kelce in the TE role. 

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On 1/21/2024 at 10:24 PM, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Idk how to feel about Brady but he dialed up the deep shots and they were there…nobody made a play 

he did but....they were very low percentage shots.   i would have liked to have seen something of a middle ground.   plus there was series or two where they were trying to force feed diggs.   i just felt like once the chiefs were starting to take the run game away (because he became one dimensional with it)  the play 

calling fell apart and had no rhythm. 

1 hour ago, Awwufelloff said:

This makes me think why bother investing at all on defense? The NFL clearly wants high scoring games. 

well, it was the chiefs D that won the game.   wasnt that the strength of the chiefs all year?

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4 hours ago, Simon said:

 

They answer to their brothers.

Everybody else can get stuffed.

 

Nah. 😂

 

The story-telling of the media creates the drama and the narrative that something important is going on.

 

That make-believe aspect pays 100% of their salary......otherwise it's just a bunch of dudes running into each other.........a big budget movie with no soundtrack.......which is why so much media access is required.

 

The league knows they are just selling sugar water and calling it life's blood..........hell the teams are even named after the communities but owned privately. 

 

It's all just entertainment.    Ultimately the important players big-picture responsibility is to keep the golden goose alive.

 

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6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

That's entirely part of the point.   They haven't been connecting on deep throws.   They haven't been doing that job before.  Not sure why you'd expect that to change.

 

And off of memory that would have been the longest air yards throw completed to Shakir all season.   Last season they tried him more on deeper throws and he struggled to track the ball further downfield.......famously dropping what should have been a wide open bomb in the Miami playoff game.    This season he's strictly been a short to intermediate target and that's played into his strengths.  

 

BTW.........kudos to Spags for the 2nd down blitz in the first half the preceded the Bills first punt.   He suckered Allen out of the gameplan.   That was the first of the two long incompletions to Sherfield.   That was also a big play in the game.   

the second i seen Josh look at diggs and move on i was like..seriously...wth.   two many times this year we have been burned by that exact thing.  

the whole drive was bleeding the clock.   if anything this year we should have learned that with this D u dont want to leave any time on the clock.   

we got burned 13 seconds.  it was devine intervention that chiefs didnt burn us again in the reg season..and yet here we are once again willing to take a deep shot and leave the chiefs a world of time to march down the field.   Made zero sense to me. 

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42 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Nah. 😂

 

The story-telling of the media creates the drama and the narrative that something important is going on.

 

That make-believe aspect pays 100% of their salary......otherwise it's just a bunch of dudes running into each other.........a big budget movie with no soundtrack.......which is why so much media access is required.

 

The league knows they are just selling sugar water and calling it life's blood..........hell the teams are even named after the communities but owned privately. 

 

It's all just entertainment.    Ultimately the important players big-picture responsibility is to keep the golden goose alive.

 

 

Big ticket players should also recognize that their silence can become the narrative. For a player like Diggs in particular with a whole history of weird media stunts, he knows better than this. It's frustrating for sure.

 

If Diggs is always reserved in public situations that's a different story. Then him skipping the post game interview is business as usual, no one bats an eye. But when he's been shown on camera lambasting his QB on the sideline, or posting stupid cryptic tweets, or creating a public spectacle on day one of training camp, he doesn't also get to have the luxury of sitting out a media appearance after a bad game without people rightly asking questions about his behavior.

 

I'm really not looking forward to this offseason at all. I have no idea how Diggs is going to behave. We're asking the same questions about the coaching staff that we were after last year's divisional loss. We are likely going to lose several players that were the core of the team over the past few years which means our cap space will be spent on like for like replacements instead of truly impactful additions. Bleh. 

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7 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I had no idea till I saw this angle that the corner literally falls down behind him and if he simply catches the ball he could have moonwalked into the endzone my goodness 

 

 

This is the complete opposite of Minnesota Miracle.

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