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26 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:


McD isn’t calling the plays.  I understand he should be dictating the strategy but what you’re describing is probably unrealistic for a defensive head coach.  Maybe a defensive head coach is the wrong solution but that’s a different issue.

 

Right... It's only the strategy I'm talking about... Not the plays...At the 2 minute McD tells the offense we have to play for at least one more 1st down and run this clock... Dial up your best two 5 yard plays...Stay in bounds...Then run it on 1st, probably with Josh, and see if we can get 5 more...Force them to take their TO's bare minimum...

 

Anyway... Whatever... It just seemed so obvious to me what the proper strategy was... Maybe I'm wrong... I don't know...

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1 minute ago, Preds said:

Sadly I don’t see Josh ever hoisting the Lombardi as a Buffalo Bill (maybe later in his career after he moves on to a true championship caliber team to chase a championship like Peytonwas able to).  I unfortunately have zero faith that we’ll ever see Allen winning or even making it to the Super Bowl under this coaching staff.

 

 wish we had a regime that provide him a quality OFFENSIVE minded Head Coach and a GM who would stop wasting draft picks and cap space on on the ***** defensive players the failed defensive HC demands, instead of providing Allen with elite WR’s to throw to.   The Bills need to draft multiple WR’s for Allen early and often this year.    The scrap heap he’s been given the past few years is just embarrassing.   Diggs is either hurt or hit the walll. At this point he is barely in the conversation as a WR2.   

It’s difficult to continue witnessing the futility of this staff and the repetitive beat down of Allen each season as the team around him lets him down season after season after season due to poor coaching and roster construction.    
 

We are sadly watching a generational talent’s career waste away.   He deserves an opportunity to play for a Super Bowl, something highly unlikely to happen with McD leading the organization.  It’s so frustrating.   

Cant say you’re wrong, but also we were under two mins left and Josh had the easy crossing route to diggs wide open for the first and to run the clock and instead tried to get aggressive with an endzone pass. The game was right there for the taking. 

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1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Right... It's only the strategy I'm talking about... Not the plays...At the 2 minute McD tells the offense we have to play for at least one more 1st down and run this clock... Dial up your best two 5 yard plays...Stay in bounds...Then run it on 1st, probably with Josh, and see if we can get 5 more...Force them to take their TO's bare minimum...

 

Anyway... Whatever... It just seemed so obvious to me what the proper strategy was... Maybe I'm wrong... I don't know...

You're not wrong.  That should have been the strategy.  

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1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Right... It's only the strategy I'm talking about... Not the plays...At the 2 minute McD tells the offense we have to play for at least one more 1st down and run this clock... Dial up your best two 5 yard plays...Stay in bounds...Then run it on 1st, probably with Josh, and see if we can get 5 more...Force them to take their TO's bare minimum...

 

Anyway... Whatever... It just seemed so obvious to me what the proper strategy was... Maybe I'm wrong... I don't know...


it was painfully obvious and i’m still perplexed how the final plays played out. Just not intelligent football. 

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3 minutes ago, sven233 said:

I see a lot of complaining about the TD shot on 3rd down.

 

That was only 2nd down actually.

On third down they had three guys running crossers short of the sticks so Allen held it rolling out and ran out of real estate.

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8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

 

Yeah I get it, but I don't know why you'd bother saying that right now, it's like hey at least we lose well.

 

I mean you know what happens next right, the Chiefs return to normal next week dropping passes playing like ***** and get the doors blown off them by the Ravens, just like with the Bengals after 13 seconds, just so we can think why'd they even bother winning.

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5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Josh missed a wide open Shakir in the middle of the EZ.

 

I think if he doesn't get bumped during the release he hits that post perfectly and they take the lead.

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20 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

Moving on from the coach is not irrational.  I thought the people who said to move on from McD after 13 seconds were irrational, it turns out they were right.

He did a great job building us up and ending the drought.  But he clearly can't play with the big dogs.  Defense is his specialty and the D was an embarrassment tonight by every metric.  Yes we had injuries.  More than most.

 

 

You move on from your coach when you have a team that has superstars or stars that are under achieving. We dont have a team of stars. We have a bunch of people no one else has ever heard of except for us, the ones that are stars include:

 

Tre - injured not playing.

Von Miller - a shadow of his former self.

Diggs - lost his focus and seems disinterested

Milano - out for the season

and of course Josh Allen and a rookie TE that will probably be a star in the future.

 

No one else besides us can name anyone else on our roster.

 

This game was close enough that 1 or 2 players (Milano?)  or 1 or 2 plays (dropped passes? poor decisions?) could have changed the outcome. This irrational FIRE EVERYONE! BLOW IT UP!  stuff is just nonsense.  The, "we cant criticize Josh Allen! He is God" when he makes a poor decision thing is dumb as well.

 

There are 32 teams in the NFL, 28 didn't make it as a far as us.

 

So ya, I stand by what I said, he had a great game but that one throw was a bad decision. Its not the end of the world.

 

 

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1 minute ago, JROC INTEL said:

Cant say you’re wrong, but also we were under two mins left and Josh had the easy crossing route to diggs wide open for the first and to run the clock and instead tried to get aggressive with an endzone pass. The game was right there for the taking. 

Even if he took the crossing route there is no guarantee it’s accurate with Dawkins getting pushed into him. Both shots were there and with a clean pocket that’s a TD.  
 

 

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5 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

That was only 2nd down actually.

On third down they had three guys running crossers short of the sticks so Allen held it rolling out and ran out of real estate.

Possibly knew McD was gonna go for FG if it came up short. Be my guess

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8 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Right... It's only the strategy I'm talking about... Not the plays...At the 2 minute McD tells the offense we have to play for at least one more 1st down and run this clock... Dial up your best two 5 yard plays...Stay in bounds...Then run it on 1st, probably with Josh, and see if we can get 5 more...Force them to take their TO's bare minimum...

 

Anyway... Whatever... It just seemed so obvious to me what the proper strategy was... Maybe I'm wrong... I don't know...

 

Yes, grind the clock. Treat it like you're up and trying to salt the game away.

 

If you give it back you lose. Obviously once you run out of downs you might have to kick the FG but depending on the distance I would go for it on 4th down. 

 

Best chance of a win was scoring a TD there with under a minute on the clock and no timeouts for KC 

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1 minute ago, steven50 said:

You move on from your coach when you have a team that has superstars or stars that are under achieving. We dont have a team of stars. We have a bunch of people no one else has ever heard of except for us, the ones that are stars are:

 

Tre - injured not playing.

Von Miller - a shadow of his former self.

Diggs - lost his focus and seems disinterested

Milano - out for the season

and of course Josh Allen and a rookie TE that will probably be a star in the future.

 

No one else besides us can name anyone else on our roster.

 

This game was close enough that 1 or 2 players (Milano?)  or 1 or 2 plays (dropped passes? poor decisions?) could have changed the outcome. This irrational FIRE EVERYONE! BLOW IT UP!  stuff is just nonsense.  The, "we cant criticize Josh Allen! He is God" when he makes a poor decision thing is dumb as well.

 

There are 32 teams in the NFL, 28 didn't make it as a far as us.

 

So ya, I stand by what I said, he had a great game but that one throw was a bad decision. Its not the end of the world.

 

 

Acceptable answer.  Josh isnt above criticism.  Anyone saying this game is his fault though is being absurd but criticizing him for a couple plays is fair.

 

My response would be pointing out that we have a defensive coach whose defense has consistently let us down in the playoffs.  This isn't the first time our d has been carved like swiss cheese.  So why keep him if he isn't good at the thing he's supposed to specialize in?   

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Just now, TheFunPolice said:

 

Yes, grind the clock. Treat it like you're up and trying to salt the game away.

 

If you give it back you lose. Obviously once you run out of downs you might have to kick the FG but depending on the distance I would go for it on 4th down. 

 

Best chance of a win was scoring a TD there with under a minute on the clock and no timeouts for KC 

 

Yeah I though they got a little too aggressive coming out of the 2:00 warning.

It's better than turtling, but they could have managed it better while still staying proactive.

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