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2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier?  

 

The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did.  That was garbage.

 

Zerovoltz, your J-J is showing.

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2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

That isn't a juke...he's slowing as if to slide...7 yards from nearest defender...then starts running again...how is this a juke?  Who is he juking...the guy 7 yards away?

Yes. 
 

This is some crybaby nonsense. 

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It's one thing if Josh was faking like he's going out of bounds and then turns back up field...

 

He's literally dead set in the middle of the field.. slows and stutters to set up a cut

 

Then Pittsburgh doesn't want to tackle and Josh turns into Usain bolt

 

Pittsburgh had plenty of chances to hit Allen on that play and they were softer

 

I never heard a whistle I'm pretty sure you're taught at 5 to never stop till you hear whistle

 

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It's just such a stupid idea, it's Josh ***** Allen he doesn't slide that's his reputation what would be the point of a fake for him, if anything that'd just be a great idea to get lit up attempting to fake slide no one's going to believe it.

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2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier?  

 

The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did.  That was garbage.

 

What fake slide???? 

 

Are you talking about Allen's totally obviously real slide????

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12 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

What fake slide???? 

 

Are you talking about Allen's totally obviously real slide????

I do think it was kind of funny when he did that, it was like he was baiting that penalty by running through the Steelers all game.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Dude Josh Allen barely slides as is... And I'm the touchdown run there's nobody barreling in on him 

 

He's literally setting up a cut not sliding with green grass on DBs

 

Josh definitely does a deliberate “fake slide” at times.  He’s talked about it, I think it was a podcast with Jordan Palmer and Kyle Allen.  But that wasn’t his “fake slide” motion, as someone else said “that was a White Boy cut”

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20 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

It's one thing if Josh was faking like he's going out of bounds and then turns back up field...

 

He's literally dead set in the middle of the field.. slows and stutters to set up a cut

 

Then Pittsburgh doesn't want to tackle and Josh turns into Usain bolt

 

Pittsburgh had plenty of chances to hit Allen on that play and they were softer

 

I never heard a whistle I'm pretty sure you're taught at 5 to never stop till you hear whistle

 

 

LOL this reminds me of a preseason film clip the Bills put out.  Josh is talking with a couple teammates about Latavious Murray.  

 

Something to the effect of “he’s HUGE, what is he, 6’5”, 240?  I wouldn’t want to tackle him”

 

Whoever is talking to Josh says “well, you’re 6’5” 240”

 

Josh says “I wouldn’t want to tackle me, either”

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42 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

This guy is a mega troll.  Simply the worst.

He’s not the worst, but this isn’t his best work for sure

 

100% not a fake slide.  Down shift to set up blocks and take the rest to the woodshed.  Josh is different.  

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6 minutes ago, stinky finger said:

Me thinks you and your fellow loser Chief fans are a little nervous. 

Why wouldn't we be?  The Bills are a good team with a great QB.  We are going on the road.  Plenty there to be nervous about.  

 

 

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3 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

The nearest defender was 7 yards away.....

 

 

 

Zero, this probably won't help, but since you are normally a reasonable-ish poster.  Watch the feet in the above videos.  In the one where he slides, he leans back, folds one leg back and kicks the other one out like a normal slide.  In the other one he stutter steps and changes direction.

 

The feet tell the story.

 

Plus, the fact that the guy he has to juke is not in frame also proves it was a change of direction and not a fake slide.  There was no guy about to hit him that he was trying to fake out into letting up.

 

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3 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

The nearest defender was 7 yards away.....

 

 

 

Allen does early jukes all the time; he's a big enough guy that if he can get the defender to make one wrong step he has the power to drive through an arm tackle. 

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3 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier?  

 

The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did.  That was garbage.

Dude.  Your quarterback is Mahomes.  That's like Hitler calling Stalin too much of a dictator (McDermott's example not mine).

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1 minute ago, Long Suffering Fan said:

 

Zero, this probably won't help, but since you are normally a reasonable-ish poster.  Watch the feet in the above videos.  In the one where he slides, he leans back, folds one leg back and kicks the other one out like a normal slide.  In the other one he stutter steps and changes direction.

 

The feet tell the story.

 

Plus, the fact that the guy he has to juke is not in frame also proves it was a change of direction and not a fake slide.  There was no guy about to hit him that he was trying to fake out into letting up.

 

 

The Defender that Josh "Jukes" was just coming off a suspension and fine for a late hit.  Let's say you are right...lets say that's something other than a fake slide....the defender was quoted as not being sure if he was about to slide causing him to hesitate.  And the defender to Joshs front right, coming off a block, clearly hesitates and gives up.  That's on him....you shouldn't give up until you hear a whistle...but it sure looks like he lets up thinking the play is about to be over.

 

The worst part of this for Josh and any other QB...including Mahomes, who gives the impression that they might be considering or not considering a slide, intentional or not, is that the defense is eventually going to clock these guys and just accept the 15 yard penalty in an effort to get them to be alot more clear about their intentions.  

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Just now, Doc Brown said:

Dude.  Your quarterback is Mahomes.  That's like Hitler calling Stalin too much of a dictator (McDermott's example not mine).

Putin calling Hamas and telling them to not be so hostile 😂

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Just now, Zerovoltz said:

 

The Defender that Josh "Jukes" was just coming off a suspension and fine for a late hit.  Let's say you are right...lets say that's something other than a fake slide....the defender was quoted as not being sure if he was about to slide causing him to hesitate.  And the defender to Joshs front right, coming off a block, clearly hesitates and gives up.  That's on him....you shouldn't give up until you hear a whistle...but it sure looks like he lets up thinking the play is about to be over.

 

The worst part of this for Josh and any other QB...including Mahomes, who gives the impression that they might be considering or not considering a slide, intentional or not, is that the defense is eventually going to clock these guys and just accept the 15 yard penalty in an effort to get them to be alot more clear about their intentions.  

Yes, Josh has to know which defenders were just fined for late hits and he's looking out for it LOL

 

The speed of the game is way too fast

 

You've been a good poster here for years but you're literally about to get blacklisted because nobody here has your back

 

They had plenty of opportunities to tackle Josh Allen on that play and did not that's what it comes down to

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

 

The Defender that Josh "Jukes" was just coming off a suspension and fine for a late hit.  Let's say you are right...lets say that's something other than a fake slide....the defender was quoted as not being sure if he was about to slide causing him to hesitate.  And the defender to Joshs front right, coming off a block, clearly hesitates and gives up.  That's on him....you shouldn't give up until you hear a whistle...but it sure looks like he lets up thinking the play is about to be over.

 

The worst part of this for Josh and any other QB...including Mahomes, who gives the impression that they might be considering or not considering a slide, intentional or not, is that the defense is eventually going to clock these guys and just accept the 15 yard penalty in an effort to get them to be alot more clear about their intentions.  

Yeah all that jumble means is they made mistakes thinking a QB who notoriously finishes runs wasn't, and if they do what you fear in the second paragraph they'll be penalized if they hit a sliding QB other than Justin Fields, and if it's Josh they might just get run over.

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As was said earlier, Mahomes faking like he’s going to run out of bounds, but then twinkle-toeing up the sideline is far worse than Josh not sliding in the open field when everyone expects him to. 

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4 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:

A penalty for a fake?! You obviously don’t understand the entire concept of a fake. 
 

Throw a flag on Allen’s fake passes when he’s running ten yards down field

 

Throw a flag on a blitz

 

Throw a flag on every RPO

 

Fake points — ILLEGAL

 

See where I’m going with this.

 

It’s a fake. It’s not real. Can’t throw a penalty on a fake action. Come on, bruh

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4 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier?  

 

The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did.  That was garbage.


That wasn’t a fake slide, and this is wild coming from a fan of the dude who constantly prances around pretending to go out of bounds, only to grab another five yards when the defender lets up. 

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4 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

That isn't a juke...he's slowing as if to slide...7 yards from nearest defender...then starts running again...how is this a juke?  Who is he juking...the guy 7 yards away?

 

 

Just an idiotic take.    Every thought about doing something is not a "fake".   When a QB is running they always have to consider the slide as an option.   He never went into anything resembling the beginning of a sliding motion.    If the defender anticipated a slide he should have been prepared to touch him down at least.    And yes, you can touch a QB if they slide.......you just can't come in and drop a shoulder and your full weight into them like on the play where he drew a penalty.   You are really proving to be a whiny b*tch when things aren't coming easy for your team.  

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