Injuries vs Steelers - Update from McDermott

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I haven't heard of any changes on anything I was told yesterday. Still just a minor tear in his meniscus which some players are able to play on but not all. It is normal for the Bills to rest injured players on Wednesday regardless of their game status.

I thought so, and from what little I was able to google if it's non-surgical until the offseason then no new news is likely good news. Thanks!

[Punching Bag]

47 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Just got an update on Gabe - He has a grade 2 PCL tear. I was told he will not play this week. He may be able to tough it out for the AFCCG but even then he would not be 100%.

 

@Einstein looks like you'll get your wish.

 

 

So @Einstein is an evil godmother?

[Brand J]

1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:

Weird a bunch of people told me I was a fool that Bernard could possibly play this week after it was announced it was a sprain. 

Looked like a severe sprain to me and even with the amount of injections and therapy, I’d still be surprised if he played. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Brand J said:

Looked like a severe sprain to me and even with the amount of injections and therapy, I’d still be surprised if he played. 

 

Agree. I think he'd have a shot for the AFCCG if we make it. But I'd be shocked if 6 days is enough to get him on the field.

[TheBrownBear]

1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:

Weird a bunch of people told me I was a fool that Bernard could possibly play this week after it was announced it was a sprain. 

I was certain he had broken his fibula based on his reaction on the field.  He seemed to be in intense pain.  But ankle injuries can be incredibly painful in the moment as well.  I remember injuring my ankle in basketball practice in high school and I was certain I had broken it.  I was screaming on the floor that I had broken my ankle.  Went to the ER that night and it turned out to be just a high ankle sprain.  I hit it with the old ice bucket for the next few days and I was back in practice a few days later and played in games by the following week.

Edited January 17 by TheBrownBear

[Kyle and freddy]

All gamesmanship by McDermott …can’t let on to Chiefs who is out , severity of injuries etc till end of week.

He probably has a good idea at this point , but will not show his hand …

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

I was certain he had broken his fibula based on his reaction on the field.  He seemed to be in intense pain.  But ankle injuries can be incredibly painful in the moment as well.  I remember injuring my ankle in basketball practice in high school and I was certain I had broken it.  I was screaming on the floor that I had broken my ankle.  Went to the ER that night and it turned out to be just a high ankle sprain.  I hit it with the old ice bucket for the next few days and I was back in practice a few days later and played in games by the following week.

 

I’ve thought it was broken and I was fine in a few days, and I’ve had what’ didn’t feel like a big deal linger forever. It’s really hard to know what to expect in the moment for a guy like me. 

[Bills!Win!]

I’m not worried about the injuries… WE HAVE THE 12TH MAN! Which will make it seem like we have 11 healthy players on defense so we should be fine.
 

Spit on Mahomes, curse profanities at Kelce; bring the noise Sunday bills fans! 

[billsfan_34]

28 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I haven't heard of any changes on anything I was told yesterday. Still just a minor tear in his meniscus which some players are able to play on but not all. It is normal for the Bills to rest injured players on Wednesday regardless of their game status.

Cortisone shots may be in his future 

[Green Lightning]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

I recognize that Davis is a better WR than Harty or Sherfield, but at the same time there are too many negative plays that occur on throws in his direction. Without him we lose some of our vertical passing but we also lose some of our worst tendencies as an offense. So on the whole I lean towards his absence being a good thing, not that I will ever celebrate a player being injured especially a Bills player.

Mostly agree, though that 4 TD whopper game of his against the Chiefs would sure look good Sunday.

[HappyDays]

13 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

Mostly agree, though that 4 TD whopper game of his against the Chiefs would sure look good Sunday.

 

The Chiefs won't be trotting out the awful secondary that Davis took advantage of in that game... They might have the best CB duo in the league and they're all coached extremely well. I think this will need to be another Kincaid/Shakir game, with a big helping of Allen's legs. And that would be true whether Davis was playing or not.

[Beck Water]

 

Don't know if I believe him, but good to hear.  Very very good if true.

[2003Contenders]

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

The Chiefs won't be trotting out the awful secondary that Davis took advantage of in that game... They might have the best CB duo in the league and they're all coached extremely well. I think this will need to be another Kincaid/Shakir game, with a big helping of Allen's legs. And that would be true whether Davis was playing or not.

Agreed -- and it may be time to add some wrinkles/gadget plays with Harty and see if he can get some decent YAC.

[Einstein]

What is the deal with Rapp?

He hurt himself THAT bad catching that final INT against Miami?

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

What is the deal with Rapp?

He hurt himself THAT bad catching that final INT against Miami?

 

Before the Steelers game I had heard he had a calf & achilles strain which is typically a 1-3 game absence depending on how severe. But haven't gotten any updates on him.

9 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

Agreed -- and it may be time to add some wrinkles/gadget plays with Harty and see if he can get some decent YAC.

 

Harty in recent weeks has shown off some of the speed we thought we were getting when we signed him. I agree I think he could be a bigger factor down the stretch than anticipated. It may have just taken him time to recover from his turf toe and now he's closer to 100%. Obviously he broke that punt return against the Dolphins, but he also almost broke his catch for a long TD against the Steelers. We need players that can create plays like that.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I'd rather have a healthy Elam than a hobbled Douglas.

 

Elam has proved himself and he's getting better

[ColoradoBills]

On 1/16/2024 at 2:56 PM, Bills Fan in MD said:

This would be Taron Johnson's fifth concussion of his career.  At some point his availability for the next game becomes a secondary concern.

 

For real?

[Punch]

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Elam has proved himself

 

[Tulsabillsfanz]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

For real?

Did he just have a concussion or a stinger?  I’ve read players are kept out for both. 
 

Edit to say never mind. The injury report does say concussion. 

Edited January 18 by Tulsabillsfanz

[JoshAllin]

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I'd rather have a healthy Elam than a hobbled Douglas.

 

Elam has proved himself and he's getting better

Haven't checked but wouldn't Elam fill in for a hobbled Benford, rather have Rasul in there than Dane or some other backup

Edited January 17 by motorj

[WideNine]

20 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

For real?

 

Taron has been relatively healthy for the past few seasons, but yeah this sounds about right.

 

His first few seasons with the Bills... He was an ambulatory magnet.

 

 

 

[Augie]

On 1/16/2024 at 4:56 PM, Bills Fan in MD said:

This would be Taron Johnson's fifth concussion of his career.  At some point his availability for the next game becomes a secondary concern.

 

I watched the KC/Miami game in a bar with some guy on his daughter’s phone. (Thanks, Peacock! )  We’re talking football and having a great time. At some point the daughter says “Go ahead dad, tell him.”  Huh? He was a 1st round pick of the Patriots and played 7 years at safety, including an All Pro year.  (He just gave me his name and Pats* I think ‘78 draft) TONS of cool stories about playing in OP. 

 

I actually forget his name now, but when his wife left he said she was the one who got him thru the CTE lawsuit. He said his evidence was the ELEVEN documented concussions as determined by team doctors.  He said hardly anybody in my condition could have that drag on for 6.5 years and get to the finish line. It was intentionally difficult, which probably shocks exactly nobody.  Nice guy, fascinating and we hit it off because he’s from my wife’s home town and they all know each other. He apologized, half in jest I think, that if I see you in the morning in the lobby and don’t recognize you, it wasn’t the bourbon. I can’t remember *&^% anymore. 

[Whkfc]

3 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

Weird a bunch of people told me I was a fool that Bernard could possibly play this week after it was announced it was a sprain. 

I was a fool fir believing someone who told me the ankle was broke and he was done this person works inside the stadium for the team. So I posted it amd looked like an idiot. From what i was told they absolutely thought he broke it. 

[MadPerry]

2 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

I’m not worried about the injuries… WE HAVE THE 12TH MAN! Which will make it seem like we have 11 healthy players on defense so we should be fine.
 

Spit on Mahomes, curse profanities at Kelce; bring the noise Sunday bills fans! 

Exactly where my head is at!  Mahomes has no idea whats coming.  I intend to have no voice Monday.

[Whkfc]

14 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I watched the KC/Miami game in a bar with some guy on his daughter’s phone. (Thanks, Peacock! )  We’re talking football and having a great time. At some point the daughter says “Go ahead dad, tell him.”  Huh? He was a 1st round pick of the Patriots and played 7 years at safety, including an All Pro year.  (He just gave me his name and Pats* I think ‘78 draft) TONS of cool stories about playing in OP. 

 

I actually forget his name now, but when his wife left he said she was the one who got him thru the CTE lawsuit. He said his evidence was the ELEVEN documented concussions as determined by team doctors.  He said hardly anybody in my condition could have that drag on for 6.5 years and get to the finish line. It was intentionally difficult, which probably shocks exactly nobody.  Nice guy, fascinating and we hit it off because he’s from my wife’s home town and they all know each other. He apologized, half in jest I think, that if I see you in the morning in the lobby and don’t recognize you, it wasn’t the bourbon. I can’t remember *&^% anymore. 

Looked it up looks like Tim Fox. Awsome story

[Punching Bag]

51 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

For real?

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2024/1/17/24041967/buffalo-bills-first-injury-report-of-the-week-has-few-bright-spots

Quote

The good news for the Bills is that nickel cornerback Taron Johnson was able to be a limited participant in Wednesday’s practice. Johnson left Monday’s game due to a concussion — his second of the season and fifth of his six-year career. In each of his previous stints in the NFL’s concussion protocol, Johnson was able to meet all of the requirements to return to play within just one week. A limited day of practice is a good sign that he’s on the path to another quick recovery — although a second concussion this soon after the last (Week 11) usually takes a little longer to recover from.

 

[Green Lightning]

2 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

I’m not worried about the injuries… WE HAVE THE 12TH MAN! Which will make it seem like we have 11 healthy players on defense so we should be fine.
 

Spit on Mahomes, curse profanities at Kelce; bring the noise Sunday bills fans! 

Unless someone in the stands is going to cover Kelce, I am worried about injuries.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, Whkfc said:

Looked it up looks like Tim Fox. Awsome story

 

I had to look it up because I knew that name wasn’t right and I wouldn’t want to spread bad info, even accidentally. This guy was open about all this and would tell anyone who would listen so I’m not talking out of school. He was even a local sports talk radio guy. His name is Rick Sanford and he played I think 6 years with Pats* and one in Seattle. He said they wanted him back in Seattle, but he just couldn’t do it. 

 

He’s a few years older than me, but knows my wife’s family. His father was probably at my wedding as my FIL was the only dentist in town forever, and if you invite one…. 🤷‍♂️

 

EDIT: Not to derail things, but he talked about being on the field in OP doing the pregame routine. He looked up to see a plane trying to fly a banner over the stadium going into the wind and barely moving. He said “holy $#%@ I think that thing is going to fall on us!!!  Then it turned with the wind and looked like it was shot out of a gun!”     😂 

 

 

 

.

Edited January 18 by Augie

[YattaOkasan]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

The Chiefs won't be trotting out the awful secondary that Davis took advantage of in that game... They might have the best CB duo in the league and they're all coached extremely well. I think this will need to be another Kincaid/Shakir game, with a big helping of Allen's legs. And that would be true whether Davis was playing or not.

Even if Davis were back I agree it would/should be a Kincaid/shakir game. But I think he could have a role if he were healthy. The CBs they have are great partly cause they are so physical. Gabe has shown he can play that style and would be a good known quantity if shakir struggles with it. 
 

thanks for the updates btw

Edited January 18 by YattaOkasan

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Harty in recent weeks has shown off some of the speed we thought we were getting when we signed him. I agree I think he could be a bigger factor down the stretch than anticipated. It may have just taken him time to recover from his turf toe and now he's closer to 100%. Obviously he broke that punt return against the Dolphins, but he also almost broke his catch for a long TD against the Steelers. We need players that can create plays like that.

 

Agreed, we do indeed need players that can create plays like that.

[transplantbillsfan]

8 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Just got an update on Gabe - He has a grade 2 PCL tear. I was told he will not play this week. He may be able to tough it out for the AFCCG but even then he would not be 100%.

 

@Einstein looks like you'll get your wish.

 

 

Thanks for this.

 

I am done with Gabe. 

 

Hope he gets paid by someone else in the offseason. Too inconsistent catching the ball, too much miscommunication between him and Josh. Sherfield might not be as good a blocker, but he's close, if not better. And I realize he's nowhere near the WR target, but I think that's been a good thing for the offense.

 

[Mango]

5 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I watched the KC/Miami game in a bar with some guy on his daughter’s phone. (Thanks, Peacock! )  We’re talking football and having a great time. At some point the daughter says “Go ahead dad, tell him.”  Huh? He was a 1st round pick of the Patriots and played 7 years at safety, including an All Pro year.  (He just gave me his name and Pats* I think ‘78 draft) TONS of cool stories about playing in OP. 

 

I actually forget his name now, but when his wife left he said she was the one who got him thru the CTE lawsuit. He said his evidence was the ELEVEN documented concussions as determined by team doctors.  He said hardly anybody in my condition could have that drag on for 6.5 years and get to the finish line. It was intentionally difficult, which probably shocks exactly nobody.  Nice guy, fascinating and we hit it off because he’s from my wife’s home town and they all know each other. He apologized, half in jest I think, that if I see you in the morning in the lobby and don’t recognize you, it wasn’t the bourbon. I can’t remember *&^% anymore. 

Rick Stanford maybe?

 

Drafted in the first in 79 by NE. Played 7 years. 

[Buffalo716]

5 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I watched the KC/Miami game in a bar with some guy on his daughter’s phone. (Thanks, Peacock! )  We’re talking football and having a great time. At some point the daughter says “Go ahead dad, tell him.”  Huh? He was a 1st round pick of the Patriots and played 7 years at safety, including an All Pro year.  (He just gave me his name and Pats* I think ‘78 draft) TONS of cool stories about playing in OP. 

 

I actually forget his name now, but when his wife left he said she was the one who got him thru the CTE lawsuit. He said his evidence was the ELEVEN documented concussions as determined by team doctors.  He said hardly anybody in my condition could have that drag on for 6.5 years and get to the finish line. It was intentionally difficult, which probably shocks exactly nobody.  Nice guy, fascinating and we hit it off because he’s from my wife’s home town and they all know each other. He apologized, half in jest I think, that if I see you in the morning in the lobby and don’t recognize you, it wasn’t the bourbon. I can’t remember *&^% anymore. 

It has to be Raymond Clayborn 

 

Played 12 years with NE ... First round pick corner is 1977.. pro bowler

 

And he's part of the concussion lawsuit

10 minutes ago, Mango said:

Rick Stanford maybe?

 

Drafted in the first in 79 by NE. Played 7 years. 

Read my post below yours

Edited January 18 by Buffalo716

[That's No Moon]

5 hours ago, Whkfc said:

I was a fool fir believing someone who told me the ankle was broke and he was done this person works inside the stadium for the team. So I posted it amd looked like an idiot. From what i was told they absolutely thought he broke it. 

Hence they immobilized it and carted him off. No shame there.

[klos63]

7 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Before the Steelers game I had heard he had a calf & achilles strain which is typically a 1-3 game absence depending on how severe. But haven't gotten any updates on him.

 

Harty in recent weeks has shown off some of the speed we thought we were getting when we signed him. I agree I think he could be a bigger factor down the stretch than anticipated. It may have just taken him time to recover from his turf toe and now he's closer to 100%. Obviously he broke that punt return against the Dolphins, but he also almost broke his catch for a long TD against the Steelers. We need players that can create plays like that.

It took 18 games to finally get him the ball past the line is scrimmage. They telegraphed every play to him before Monday's game. He could be a big play guy Sunday. 

[HerdMentality]

Raff's calf continues to annoy me.

[CSBill]

12 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I'd rather have a healthy Elam than a hobbled Douglas.

 

Elam has proved himself and he's getting better

 

I think the jury's still out on that one. I hope you are right, but we'll wait for further evidence.

[Magox]

I certainly wouldn’t say that Elam had proven himself but he has shown the ability to make big plays in big games and that is something to take into consideration.

[Special K]

Any updates on who is practicing today.....how injured players are progressing??

[Big Turk]

8 hours ago, Magox said:

I certainly wouldn’t say that Elam had proven himself but he has shown the ability to make big plays in big games and that is something to take into consideration.

 

Made a big play last year in the Chiefs game picking off a Mahomes pass on the end zone 

6 minutes ago, Special K said:

Any updates on who is practicing today.....how injured players are progressing??

 

Maybe later this afternoon?