Bills at Chargers, Game Week Thread Sat. 8 pm on Peacock (7 pm for us Flyover Folks)

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

9 minutes ago, finn said:

Is Baltimore for real? I haven't seen them play. Are they getting all the respect I'm seeing mostly because of their record or because they're as good as their record? 

#1 rushing offense in the league. #2 in yards allowed, #1 in TD allowed. Tied for the best record in the league playing in a division where the worst team is 7-7. 

 

They are real.

 

Are they world beaters? I don't know. But all signs say they are legit.

[Pokebball]

Allen's put a Justin Bieber song on this weeks play list. We're screwed!

[Beck Water]

23 hours ago, Gman10 said:

Off topic but @Simon Im curious, when can I make a thread? Ive been here for 3 months, 50+ posts etc!? 
 

go Bills!

 

If we told you that, @Simon would have to kill ya.

 

But I see that you joined on Sept 29, so you haven't quite been here for 3 months, amirite?

 

I'm thinking "new Year, new Threads" for ya (*nudge nudge wink wink*)

[Beck Water]

7 minutes ago, finn said:

Is Baltimore for real? I haven't seen them play. Are they getting all the respect I'm seeing mostly because of their record or because they're as good as their record? 

 

I think they're pretty much as good as their record.  They've had two losses that were inexplicable to me at the time, but it turns out the Colts are an up-and-coming team and they're a division team for the Steelers who always play them tough.  They split with the Browns.

 

Going to be very interested to see the 49ers game.  That will be touted as a possible Superbowl preview.

[balln]

39 minutes ago, finn said:

Is Baltimore for real? I haven't seen them play. Are they getting all the respect I'm seeing mostly because of their record or because they're as good as their record? 

They were for real. Too many injuries. All RBs gone. Mark andrews 

[Wacka]

On 12/20/2023 at 1:28 PM, BillsDad51 said:

Bunch of Cowboys sick last week. Did they infect  Cook? Fournette time?

During that 10-yard "tush-push" AKA the snowplow, the entire Dallas team coughed on him.

[Gary Marangi]

32 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Allen's put a Justin Bieber song on this weeks play list. We're screwed!

He is a big fan of the beebs

[eball]

56 minutes ago, finn said:

Is Baltimore for real? I haven't seen them play. Are they getting all the respect I'm seeing mostly because of their record or because they're as good as their record? 

 

I think Buffalo/Baltimore will be one hell of an AFCCG.

 

[RiotAct]

42 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Allen's put a Justin Bieber song on this weeks play list. We're screwed!

pre-pubescent era Bieber?

[Livinginthepast]

Chargers are in disarray but the Bills need to focus and get it done. Do not look past them!

 

 

[Desert Bills Fan]

I think the Ravens at SF is gonna give a feel for what the Bills would look like vs the 49’ers.

a multi threat QB and a strong defense 

[HappyDays]

3 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

 

I will say that while Miami does have a run game, it's success is based on fundamentally different principles than what the Bills exploiting. 
 

The Cowboys are built light, and designed to fight a shootout where they can use Parsons to rush the passer. To counter this, the Bills were rolling out Jumbo formations: 6 OL, 1 TE, 1 FB, 1 RB and running it down their throats and they just don't have the bodies to counter in their base and their adjustments didn't work.

 

Miami's run success comes when you use the threat of Hill and Waddle to spread a defense thin, make them account for the pass game and then pound them. The Cowboys (in theory) are better built to win that kind of fight.

 

Correct. Everyone should remind themselves on a weekly basis this is a matchup league. Miami's OL is one of the worst in the league, they are not going to physically abuse Dallas's front like we did. That being said if looks like their starting NT Hankins will be out again so that will give Miami an advantage in the run game. Good news is that Malik Hooker was back at practice so he should be good to go. I think the Cowboys can limit Hill. Biggest thing for them is controlling the run on early downs. Their defense runs through an elite pass rush and they never had a chance to tee off against us. Knock Tua around a bit and they can turn the game in their favor.

 

Let's not forget the Cowboys were looking like clearly the 2nd best team in the league before they came to Buffalo and got punched in the mouth. That level of play didn't completely disappear overnight. Miami will have their hands full.

[nucci]

1 hour ago, Livinginthepast said:

Chargers are in disarray but the Bills need to focus and get it done. Do not look past them!

 

 

There are 3 games left and the Bills need to win all 3. I'm sure they are focused and not looking past the Chargers.

[Bills!Win!]

When do we find out if Joey Bosa is playing? 

[SWATeam]

1 minute ago, Bills!Win! said:

When do we find out if Joey Bosa is playing? 

He's out

[Dan]

53 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Correct. Everyone should remind themselves on a weekly basis this is a matchup league. Miami's OL is one of the worst in the league, they are not going to physically abuse Dallas's front like we did. That being said if looks like their starting NT Hankins will be out again so that will give Miami an advantage in the run game. Good news is that Malik Hooker was back at practice so he should be good to go. I think the Cowboys can limit Hill. Biggest thing for them is controlling the run on early downs. Their defense runs through an elite pass rush and they never had a chance to tee off against us. Knock Tua around a bit and they can turn the game in their favor.

 

Let's not forget the Cowboys were looking like clearly the 2nd best team in the league before they came to Buffalo and got punched in the mouth. That level of play didn't completely disappear overnight. Miami will have their hands full.

Agreed.  Dallas seems to have a defense built entirely to stop today’s passing offenses.  It’s why I think they can rebound (or hope they can) and give Miami a much needed loss. Miami can run… but only to set up the pass.  The passing game is their game. 
 

Its also why I think Buffalo dominated Dallas last week. We went full heavy run and they just didn’t have the tools to respond.  They expected Josh to be Josh… and Brady designed a game plan that Kyle Allen could have delivered.  
 

This is also why Buffalo, if they can keep this level of intensity and focus up, are getting a lot of talk as the team no one wants to play.  Because we all know what Josh can do… but if they can flip a switch and run with power… how do you defend them?    IMO, they go as far as the defense can take them at this point.  The very real run threat combined with the Allen passing/running game is a nightmare to try and defend.  
 

edit: wanted to add… I hope they get a big early lead and then the game is comfortable enough to put some plays on tape to give other teams something to think about.   End arounds, different formation groups, etc. 

Edited December 22, 2023 by Dan

[Warcodered]

 

[Gregg]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

There are 3 games left and the Bills need to win all 3. I'm sure they are focused and not looking past the Chargers.

 

True. Also, what would they be looking to. The hapless Pats. One game at a time. 

[Beck Water]

57 minutes ago, Dan said:

Its also why I think Buffalo dominated Dallas last week. We went full heavy run and they just didn’t have the tools to respond.  They expected Josh to be Josh… and Brady designed a game plan that Kyle Allen could have delivered. 

 

Well, not quite.  You note it yourself in your next sentence.  One of the reasons why Dallas struggled to cope with that power run stuff, is that 1) their attention was divided between Cook and Josh....you could see it on several plays, they were worried about what Josh could do to them as a runner, OR, 2) if they threw all their chips into stopping the run, they feared the Josh Allen Air Show.

[Warcodered]

8 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Well, not quite.  You note it yourself in your next sentence.  One of the reasons why Dallas struggled to cope with that power run stuff, is that 1) their attention was divided between Cook and Josh....you could see it on several plays, they were worried about what Josh could do to them as a runner, OR, 2) if they threw all their chips into stopping the run, they feared the Josh Allen Air Show.

There's always going to be that fear in there heads that one of the times Josh is really still going to have the ball, all Cook needs is some hesitation. Plus some of those runs on the edges Allen has been to his right and I swear there's going to be a play where he gets the ball back one day.

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

There's always going to be that fear in there heads that one of the times Josh is really still going to have the ball, all Cook needs is some hesitation. Plus some of those runs on the edges Allen has been to his right and I swear there's going to be a play where he gets the ball back one day.

 

Exactly.  So that's why it's not quite a game plan that "Kyle Allen could have delivered".

[Scott7975]

Pretty awesome Dodson!

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

4 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

#1 rushing offense in the league. #2 in yards allowed, #1 in TD allowed. Tied for the best record in the league playing in a division where the worst team is 7-7. 

 

They are real.

 

Are they world beaters? I don't know. But all signs say they are legit.

Don’t disagree with you. But I don’t think teams like the Niners and Ravens are built really well to go all the way. if they run into a hot QB in the playoffs, then they are dead.
 

That’s why I still think the chiefs, Bills, and Cowboys are the most dangerous teams if their QBs get hot. 

[Dan]

32 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Exactly.  So that's why it's not quite a game plan that "Kyle Allen could have delivered".

Fair point.   LOL. I even second guessed writing that sentence.  Kyle may not have been as good with it…  I was trying to imply that we didn’t need one of the best QBs in the league because the run game was Cooking!  But, it’s definitely a fair point… having the threat of Josh keeping it and running is just another wrinkle to make defenses pause.

 

I guess ideally we can beat up a couple easy teams here, but play a much more balanced game - mixing it all together making upcoming coaches have to prepare for …everything. 

[Gman10]

5 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

If we told you that, @Simon would have to kill ya.

 

But I see that you joined on Sept 29, so you haven't quite been here for 3 months, amirite?

 

I'm thinking "new Year, new Threads" for ya (*nudge nudge wink wink*)

Ha! Thanks!!!

 

on a separate note, I don't want to overlook the Chargers or the Pats. But is anyone nervous for the dolphins game, being on the road for us etc. I have some big time Dolphins fans at work and they're already starting..

Edited December 22, 2023 by Gman10

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, Gman10 said:

Ha! Thanks!!!

 

on a separate note, I don't want to overlook the Chargers or the Pats. But is anyone nervous for the dolphins game, being on the road for us etc. I have some big time Dolphins fans at work and they're already starting..

 

That's for 2 weeks from now.

[Gman10]

9 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

That's for 2 weeks from now.

I know. I mentioned I was not overlooking the other two teams. But I am just saying they are already saying stuff...or "chirping" as the kids say

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

Pretty awesome Dodson!

 

 

 

 

 

Those kids Christmas almost got Munsoned

[MikePJ76]

i just heard a dolphins reporter on the radio here in Dallas doing a preview for the dolphins cowboys game.

 

He said in reference to the bills cowboys game that if the dolphins run the ball like the bills did it will be game over because the dolphins can pass the ball....

 

yikes. The media in Miami is as arrogant and ignorant as their fan base is.  

 

 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

Well, not quite.  You note it yourself in your next sentence.  One of the reasons why Dallas struggled to cope with that power run stuff, is that 1) their attention was divided between Cook and Josh....you could see it on several plays, they were worried about what Josh could do to them as a runner, OR, 2) if they threw all their chips into stopping the run, they feared the Josh Allen Air Show.

When I watch the highlights of Cooks big runs I often see one or even two Cowboys shadowing Allen even after he handed off the ball.  The Cowboys really were terrified of Allen and overcompensated big time to contain him.

 

 

[That's No Moon]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

Pretty awesome Dodson!

 

 

Hold my beer.

-Travis Henry

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Dan said:

Fair point.   LOL. I even second guessed writing that sentence.  Kyle may not have been as good with it…  I was trying to imply that we didn’t need one of the best QBs in the league because the run game was Cooking!  But, it’s definitely a fair point… having the threat of Josh keeping it and running is just another wrinkle to make defenses pause.

 

I guess ideally we can beat up a couple easy teams here, but play a much more balanced game - mixing it all together making upcoming coaches have to prepare for …everything. 

It's another reason to give Brady credit for this new and long overdue way to use Allen in an offensive game plan.

 

 

[VaMilBill]

3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

i just heard a dolphins reporter on the radio here in Dallas doing a preview for the dolphins cowboys game.

 

He said in reference to the bills cowboys game that if the dolphins run the ball like the bills did it will be game over because the dolphins can pass the ball....

 

yikes. The media in Miami is as arrogant and ignorant as their fan base is.  

 

 

What an ignorant post. The Bill had absolutely no reason to pass the ball. And if the dolphins can run it the same, they won’t have a reason to pass either. 
 

unless he’s talking in the season the he is even dumber. Let’s see the dolphins actually play a competent team that can actually play good offense and defense 

[BananaB]

2 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

What an ignorant post. The Bill had absolutely no reason to pass the ball. And if the dolphins can run it the same, they won’t have a reason to pass either. 
 

unless he’s talking in the season the he is even dumber. Let’s see the dolphins actually play a competent team that can actually play good offense and defense 

Every year the Dolphins win all their games angaist losing teams and lose against winning ones. Nothing changes Sunday. This has been going on for years

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by BananaB

[That's No Moon]

2 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Every year the Dolphins win all their games angaist losing teams and lose against winning ones. Nothing changes Sunday. This has been going on for years

 

I dunno. I think Fangio can deal with Dak.

[zow2]

The D needs to be able to get a pick six or strip sack TD against Easton Stick.  He looked prone to that during their last game. Bills need to be flying around early on D.

[MikePJ76]

26 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

What an ignorant post. The Bill had absolutely no reason to pass the ball. And if the dolphins can run it the same, they won’t have a reason to pass either. 
 

unless he’s talking in the season the he is even dumber. Let’s see the dolphins actually play a competent team that can actually play good offense and defense 

not only that but allen was 7-15 with 1 td.  Cook dropped a second td and there were 3 more drops.  

 

allen should have been something like 11-15 with 2 TD's.  

 

Dallas was aware of his every move and spied him on every play in the first half.

[Warcodered]

5 hours ago, Gman10 said:

Ha! Thanks!!!

 

on a separate note, I don't want to overlook the Chargers or the Pats. But is anyone nervous for the dolphins game, being on the road for us etc. I have some big time Dolphins fans at work and they're already starting..

I'm not that worried however it plays out, since Allen has been here the Bills have only lost to them twice and they were pretty ridiculous losses, Bills fans always show up there.

 

If we actually get in to it, depends on how the next two games play out, we've got two games the Bills should win but they've got to go out there and do it. Dolphins have two games they could easily lose, they haven't beaten a winning team yet. Those two things happen and that game is for the division and potentially for the Dolphins going to the playoffs at all maybe us too. So would Dolphins fans be all that excited to go to a game after watching their team lose the lead for the division, put themselves in a win and in situation, still not beat any winning teams, and the team they face is a team they have a 9-2 record against since 2018? Or would it be like "I don't want to ***** see this I already know what's about to happen again,"?

 

But that's all just a possibility a lot of stuff has to happen first, right now we just have to beat the Chargers and get into the Playoffs, we're basically in Playoff football right now. We know the Super Bowl is at the end of it, but we have to knock out whoever is in front of us each week.

Edited December 23, 2023 by Warcodered

[finn]

5 hours ago, balln said:

They were for real. Too many injuries. All RBs gone. Mark andrews 

Yeah, you would think losing Andrews would put a dent in things, even with Beckham to throw to. I hadn't heard about Keaton Mitchell. I wonder if the Ravens will sign Fournette off the Bills' practice squad. 

 

Roquan Smith... Now, that's a linebacker. Great pickup for them. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

This is going to feel like Ohio State vs. Akron.