Wayne Arnold Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Good "leak" by the Bills front office. You want them to be unified going into these last five games. All of their goals are still available. Do I think it will work out? No, but from the Bills' perspective they need to keep grinding. Smart use of media. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 My major issue with McDermott is that we keep pouring resources into the defense and it's ok at best. Other than that I can live with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 hours ago, wppete said: There is a zero percent chance that there is a zero percent chance he gets fired….. Never say never. 80% of the time you are right 100% of the time! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) Most coaches are interchangeable aside from Reid and maybe Shanahan We could always get one of the scrawny young nerds that isn't any good. Not every scrawny 30 year old who got coffee for McVay or Shanahan will be a great HC Edited December 1, 2023 by TheFunPolice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyd415 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: 80% of the time you are right 100% of the time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Pegula, asleep at the wheel…😉 He has a Tesla so who cares 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dirtyd415 said: Thats what I meant hagag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Yeah we are absolutely stuck with this guy. Hopefully he hires a DC and just becomes a herm edwards motivational guy and stays the ***** away from actual football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 If this is true, can Terry at least force him to hire a defensive coordinator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 6 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Wow. Shocker. Guy has coached the winningest team since Marv. Yeah…let’s get rid of him. Demanding perfection from entertainment is comical. Instant gratification at its best. That’s ok, let’s see how they like it when I and many other Bills fans don’t spend a dime on this sorry excuse of a franchise next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 53 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Good "leak" by the Bills front office. You want them to be unified going into these last five games. All of their goals are still available. Do I think it will work out? No, but from the Bills' perspective they need to keep grinding. Smart use of media. “Smart” for the wrong reasons. Being satisfied with a coach who blows nearly every big moment in close games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Most coaches are interchangeable aside from Reid and maybe Shanahan We could always get one of the scrawny young nerds that isn't any good. Not every scrawny 30 year old who got coffee for McVay or Shanahan will be a great HC Your description rendered only one person in my mind: Mike McDaniel Except he is good, and there is only one of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, DC Greg said: “Smart” for the wrong reasons. Being satisfied with a coach who blows nearly every big moment in close games. We don't really know how satisfied Pegula/Beane are with McDermott and won't until the season ends is my point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: We don't really know how satisfied Pegula/Beane are with McDermott and won't until the season ends is my point. Beaner should not have a say in it. This is his basketcase of a team put together with his own hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, OZBILLS said: Beaner should not have a say in it. This is his basketcase of a team put together with his own hands. The groceries are more than good enough to cook a Super Bowl caliber dinner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: The groceries are more than good enough to cook a Super Bowl caliber dinner. The QB is an elite A5 Wagyu. The rest are frozen vegetables 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: We don't really know how satisfied Pegula/Beane are with McDermott and won't until the season ends is my point. True. Anyone can leak whatever they want in the meantime. The proof is on the field. And it’s painfully obvious. McD is great when Allen is blowing people out. Any time the game is on the line late, you can count on him to blow it. Like clockwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I don't pay for the Athletic and didn't see it mentioned in the first few pages of this thread. Are the 4 "sources" saying McD has 0 chance of being fired during the season ? Or are they saying he has 0 chance of being fired at any point this offseason ? There's a very big difference there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, OZBILLS said: The QB is an elite A5 Wagyu. The rest are frozen vegetables The players are more than good enough. Look at the numbers and analytics. They're setting records for greatest .500 team ever. The crappy W/L record is not on the person in charge of the roster. It's the orchestrator of said roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I’m in the camp of moving off McDermott would be for the best. But it is undeniable he has been a successful coach for us and I understand giving him time to get back on track. Let’s hope the security comes with the caveat that we hire a defensive coordinator, retain Joe Brady assuming the production continues for the rest of the year, and that most the premium free agent and draft resources are given to the offense to build around Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) I mean, how can you argue against his success? With one of the best QB’s in the game, he has a failed trip to the AFC title game as his highmark. What more do you want? Edited December 1, 2023 by Beast 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: We don't really know how satisfied Pegula/Beane are with McDermott and won't until the season ends is my point. That is the wrong sum. We don't really know how satisfied Pegula is with Beane/McDermott until the season ends. That being said this report is much more inkeeping with what I am hearing from people who are / have been in the team's employ than the story at the weekend that the seat is warm. It would take them collapsing down the stretch for McDermott to get fired after this season. Whether that is right or wrong that is what I believe is the case. Pegula is only going to change regime very reluctantly and if he has an option not to, he won't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Araiza Curse said: That’s ok, let’s see how they like it when I and many other Bills fans don’t spend a dime on this sorry excuse of a franchise next year. I’m sure they will be devastated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Hutz Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 The Pegula family has no clue how to run a sports franchise. They have horribly mismanaged the Sabres and now it looks like they are doing the same with Bills. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 hours ago, HumbleAndHungry said: What do Marv and Sean both have in common? They both had Elite QB play. If Chan Gailey had Josh Allen we'd be saying the same thing about him. The QB that one inherits plays such a huge role in a coaches "success" Chan Gailey with Jish Allen would have ended the drought and his offense would have been tailored around Josh's strengths. And I think Chan would have brought home a Lombardi with Allen. And I don't consider Chan Gailey a great coach but he knew how to get the most from his players on offense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Makes sense for Pegula to say this right now as there is still time to save the season, by beating the Chiefs. Not sticking up for McD would send the message that the Bills are giving up. And, the team we’ve seen the last two weeks is a playoff team. (Unlike what we saw against the Jets, Jags, Giants, Pats and Broncos.) Doesn’t mean he feels the same in January when reviewing the whole season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Money talks which is why the contract extensions before the season told me McD was never in jeopardy of losing his job. Especially for an owner who holds the Steelers model in such high regard. I just hope we can keep Brady on as OC and nobody snags him as a Head Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Anything can happen between now and end of the season. However, can’t see Pegula firing McDermott till after the season if it happens. However, if McDermott is brought back next year he should most definitely be on the hot seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 For a successful coach like McDermott I figured it would take consecutive years of missing the playoffs to get fired. But his seat is definitely hot next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Disgusting, gonna waste Allen’s peak with this bum 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: I can add to that, I used the term heckled, that was a bad choice of words. Sympathy would be the correct word for my experience. I was getting some food, and the guy serving just kept looking at me saying, im sorry man, I'm sorry. I had no idea what he was talking about until he pulled up his sleeve and I saw the eagles logo. He was truly sympathetic and said I thought we were going to lose that game. I just politely told him, I figured we was going to lose by the 3rd quarter while we had the lead, he couldn't understand that lol Did he ask if you had an Eagles or Jest shirt underneath? Maybe from your response he thought you bet against Bills with some spread and you lost the bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 We are so *****. We are going nowhere with McDummy. He can't even stop repeating mistakes in the same season, let alone repeating mistakes from previous seasons. Totally overloaded as HC/DC, his in-game decision making has completely hit rock bottom this season. Wastes TOs, horrible challenges (the 9 yard challenge on first down against CIN, JESUS!!!), benches Cook and costs us the Broncos game, continues to let Gabe play when he keeps dropping passes, ARGH!! I could keep going, but I may burst a blood vessel. We are so *****. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, AuntieEm said: Chan Gailey with Jish Allen would have ended the drought and his offense would have been tailored around Josh's strengths. And I think Chan would have brought home a Lombardi with Allen. And I don't consider Chan Gailey a great coach but he knew how to get the most from his players on offense. Chan Gailey does not have the energy to be a head coach but he would be a good Senior Offense Assistant and I recommended such last year when OC was promoted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Money talks which is why the contract extensions before the season told me McD was never in jeopardy of losing his job. Especially for an owner who holds the Steelers model in such high regard. I just hope we can keep Brady on as OC and nobody snags him as a Head Coach. That extension was pure stupidity. If Terry thinks Sean is some kind of Tomlin coach, then he's losing it. I guess as the owner he values regular season continuity over any semblance of going deep in the playoffs. McDermott is a very predictable coach. He will continue to make the same mistakes over & over. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jim said: No. Andy Dalton did. McDipshit thought it prudent to replace a pedestrian Tyrod Taylor with (checks notes) Nathan Peterman. And also punted to the Colts in OT in a game that would’ve kept us out of the playoffs again. But go on… Lame. LAME! LAME! Decision was made by OC Rick Dennison and he lost his job due to it. Rick Dennison was signed by Coach McD because he believed he needed OC with experience since all of his experience was on defense side of ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 11 hours ago, alluro said: As it should be. 35 consecutive regular season games of losing by one score or less. We are always in these contests. The next closest coach has like 13. Participation trophies are due for McMediocre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 12 hours ago, May Day 10 said: I believe this a lot more than Florio shooting from the hip. I think this team would have to endure a colossal melt-down in the locker room and on the field the final 5 games in order for any coaching change to be considered How about another loss to New England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repulsif Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 12 hours ago, alluro said: As it should be. 35 consecutive regular season games of losing by one score or less. We are always loosing in these contests. The next closest coach has like 13. fyp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repulsif Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 my guess is Mc Dermott will stay and Bean is let go (...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, AuntieEm said: Chan Gailey with Jish Allen would have ended the drought and his offense would have been tailored around Josh's strengths. And I think Chan would have brought home a Lombardi with Allen. And I don't consider Chan Gailey a great coach but he knew how to get the most from his players on offense. I don't know what makes you think this. The history of Chan is he runs HIS offense wherever he goes. I have never seen him tailor it to his players. What he does is installs his scheme and then tries to find the players to fit. Fitz was a GREAT fit for Chan's scheme. They have had success together in 3 spots - Bills, Jets, Dolphins. But his OC record with other QBs is spotty at best since the 90s. I love what Chan did with the offense when he was here. He got the most out of a pretty average group. But his scheme has fundamental issues too and it is the law of diminishing returns. At some point those issues would show up even if he had Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs and Dalton Kincaid and he wouldn't have changed it because he never did. He tried to force Michael Irvin and Troy Aikman into it in Dallas with all their accolades and rings. And if we wanna talk about McDermott's questionable hires in Dennison and Dorsey then we need to remember Chan made two disastrous DC hires. Including Wannstedt who underachieved his talent as much as any Bills coach in history. Edited December 1, 2023 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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