clayboy54 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: Wait I'm so confused I thought Smiley should have been fired at halftime yesterday I can't keep up If you're going to have a "McClappy" then you have to have a "Smiley" don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 All eyes on the Chiefs and Eagles game tonight. We know for a fact we can play with the Chiefs. We've won 2 out of the last 3 and, obviously, we all know it should be 3 of the last 3. So, I think we will have sort of an idea of what we might be in for after tonight. That said, styles make fights. No matter what happens tonight or how these teams match up, the way we play the Eagles will obviously be a bit different. As of now, I do worry that the Eagles might out physical us at the point of attack on both sides of the ball and that is definitely concerning. But, tonight, hopefully Andy Reid can show us a couple of softer spots we might be able to get after. Will be a good watch tonight either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Boyle starting on Friday. Looks like we ended Zach's career as QB1 of the NYJ. Fitting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman10 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 19 hours ago, Simon said: Totally off subject, but why can't I create threads? Thanks sorry to derail the thread go bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Gman10 said: Totally off subject, but why can't I create threads? Thanks sorry to derail the thread go bills. I don't know the specific numbers, but to prevent newbies who don't know the ropes here being disruptive by starting a thread for their every thought, there's a limit on how long you must be a member and how many posts you must have before you can start threads. Those exact numbers are closely guarded wisdom revealed to only a sacrosanct few after a secret ceremony involving a skull full of Possum stew, a set of Zubaz apparel, and a bottle of Lagavulin. Just kidding on the ceremony, if I explained what was really involved @Simon would have to kill me, but the part about the newbie limits on time and # posts before starting threads is correct. Edited November 20, 2023 by Beck Water 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman10 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Hahaha fairplay! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, sven233 said: All eyes on the Chiefs and Eagles game tonight. We know for a fact we can play with the Chiefs. We've won 2 out of the last 3 and, obviously, we all know it should be 3 of the last 3. So, I think we will have sort of an idea of what we might be in for after tonight. That said, styles make fights. No matter what happens tonight or how these teams match up, the way we play the Eagles will obviously be a bit different. As of now, I do worry that the Eagles might out physical us at the point of attack on both sides of the ball and that is definitely concerning. But, tonight, hopefully Andy Reid can show us a couple of softer spots we might be able to get after. Will be a good watch tonight either way. The fact that we get these two teams right after they play each other is the kind of scheduling boon rarely provided to a Buffalo team. We’ll have lots of very recent tape to study. Coaches better earn their keep these next couple of weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 12-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Look familiar? https://twitter.com/PFF_Steve/status/1726352868381237612?s=20 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 17 hours ago, Big Turk said: Not as good as Josh Allen teabagging Jalen Ramsey Rasul Douglas kept intercepting them? Lol.. what a pick up he was… we’re lucky to have him… So far so good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I know Sauce was getting trashed for his lack of effort on the TD and "tweet and delete" but he did the same thing earlier in the game also. Just tried to hand tackle Shakir. Maybe he's afraid of Shakir for some reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, Einstein said: Look familiar? https://twitter.com/PFF_Steve/status/1726352868381237612?s=20 That's the same dang play run more or less at the exact same time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Low Positive said: That's the same dang play run more or less at the exact same time. Yep. Shanahan's version is eeeever so slightly better, due to the motion of McCaffrey several steps in the opposite direction of where he'd be running his route. Giants ran this play yesterday, too. It didn't look as pretty as when the Bills or 9ers did it, but it did score a touchdown. Edited November 20, 2023 by Logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 21 hours ago, zow2 said: Philly has a huge game on MNF. Revenge vs KC. I feel like we could catch them on the proverbial emotional letdown. And the Bills are due to win a game or two that they’re supposed to lose. The Bills are due for good luck with injuries, good luck with referees, good luck with fumbles and interceptions, good luck with coin toss's, and lots more good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Low Positive said: That's the same dang play run more or less at the exact same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Logic said: Yep. Shanahan's version is eeeever so slightly better, due to the motion of McCaffrey several steps in the opposite direction of where he'd be running his route. Giants ran this play yesterday, too. It didn't look as pretty as when the Bills or 9ers did it, but it did score a touchdown. But the reason Shanahans is better is that CMAC is running the play. LB's overcompensate trying to keep track of the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Logic Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: But the reason Shanahans is better is that CMAC is running the play. LB's overcompensate trying to keep track of the guy. Sure, but the pre-snap motion that I mentioned is also a nice little added touch that the Bills' and Giants' versions did not feature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: Those exact numbers are closely guarded wisdom revealed to only a sacrosanct few after a secret ceremony involving a skull full of Possum stew, a set of Zubaz apparel, and a bottle of Lagavulin. and if we reveal their names we will have to kill you or worse make you consume the stew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 56 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I know Sauce was getting trashed for his lack of effort on the TD and "tweet and delete" but he did the same thing earlier in the game also. Just tried to hand tackle Shakir. Maybe he's afraid of Shakir for some reason. Maybe he thinks he’s Primetime and doesn’t need to tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 57 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I know Sauce was getting trashed for his lack of effort on the TD and "tweet and delete" but he did the same thing earlier in the game also. Just tried to hand tackle Shakir. Maybe he's afraid of Shakir for some reason. Deion couldn't tackle either but Sauce ain't no Prime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 8 hours ago, SCBills said: I think we needed to have two objectives against the Jets and their top tier defense: 1) Win 2) Get the Offense going Check and Check Cannot overstate how massive it would be to beat the Eagles and get to 7-5 for the bye. 10-7 "might" get us in, but 11-6 does and I think we'll all feel like that's absolutely possible if they can beat Philly. Just like the Jets were a test for our "new offense", the Eagles will be a test to see if our new defense can slow down a top offense. I listened to the postgame last night while driving home and Schopp/Bulldog were incredibly down on our defense, and while I get it... I also feel like Linval Joseph can give us 70% of Daquan Jones. Similarly, Rasul Douglas 80-85% of Tre White. Which means, as long as we don't continue to get decimated on that side of the ball, they really are trying to mask the loss of Milano. Am I off-base to expect more from this defense than them being an albatross for the rest of the season and our offense needing to just win shootouts every game? I’d say Douglas and White are pretty much trade offs, but Joseph is no replacement for Jones who is far more active and, of course, there is no one even close to Milano on the roster. The defense will play hard, but it’s going to take 30+ points minimum to win that game, IMO. And even that might not be enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: I know Sauce was getting trashed for his lack of effort on the TD and "tweet and delete" but he did the same thing earlier in the game also. Just tried to hand tackle Shakir. Maybe he's afraid of Shakir for some reason. Or maybe he is just an arrogant POS who does not want to get his nose dirty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I noticed several "business decisions" made by this 2nd year player who has apparently already been crowned as an all-pro. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Draconator said: we are going to absolutely destroy the eagles. 3 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Draconator said: This is exactly what I wanted to see. Where has this been since the Dolphins game?! Edited November 20, 2023 by Dablitzkrieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Draconator said: Another rough look for the "Dorsey wasn't the problem" crowd. I mean...it COULD just be a coincidence that the Bills score 32 on a great Jets D and Josh shouts "I feel like I'm $@#%ing back!" the very first week without Dorsey at the helm. Or, ya know... Edited November 20, 2023 by Logic 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 6 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Not to get too far ahead, but the Eagles are legit good. I was ready to call them a hype machine last year and while I am not a huge Hurts fan, they have an elite stable of WRs, run the ball enough to be effective, and they are great at short down conversion. I think the bigger problem is Hurts is dangerous running the ball himself. Our guys don't chase QBs so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I think the bigger problem is Hurts is dangerous running the ball himself. Our guys don't chase QBs so well. They've dialed that back a lot this year. Hurts has taken some hits and his knee brace just came off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Warcodered said: Wasn't like a first down catch he made that got erased by a penalty? I went back and looked. You are sort of correct. Davis got a target and the Bills also got a penalty. He didn't catch the ball though. -10 Yard Penalty (15:00) (Shotgun) J.Allen pass incomplete short right to G.Davis (B.Echols, A.Gardner) [C.Mosley]. PENALTY on BUF-D.Dawkins, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at NYJ 45 - No Play. 2nd & 6 at NYJ 45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 56 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Sauce has a very specific style of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Why do they just choose players that can get away with this? Because they have a cool nickname? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 45 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Why do they just choose players that can get away with this? Because they have a cool nickname? Pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Sauce has a very specific style of play. It's a style alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Logic said: Another rough look for the "Dorsey wasn't the problem" crowd. I mean...it COULD just be a coincidence that the Bills score 32 on a great Jets D and Josh shouts "I feel like I'm $@#%ing back!" the very first week without Dorsey at the helm. Or, ya know... It feels that way on overreaction Monday.........but it's really not that big of an indictment of the work of Dorsey personally, IMO. Dorsey had his shortcomings but ultimately the players on offense are the most to blame for keeping many games too close this season with volumes of inexcusable turnovers...........and the fact of the matter is that the defense and special teams have given up leads the offense gave them at the very end of game 4 times. Even if Nate Hackett himself were the OC of this team they should be no worse than 9-2 heading into the tough part of their schedule. Something had to be done to get this team out of their funk. A change was needed somewhere and it couldn't be McDermott and Smiley wasn't enough of a sacrifice to move the needle. The OC took the hit and it was a good decision by McDermott to make the move, IMO. It works out great that they have an experienced, energetic young play caller to take over. If the best option was Mike Shula I think Smiley would have hit the unemployment line Monday. I liked Joe Brady's game plan just fine......it was more conservative than a wicky-wacky Daboll game plan but it still had some gotcha plays that were very well timed. But the biggest difference was still that they didn't turn the ball over and keep the inferior team in the game while they were struggling over and over to move the ball in the red zone in the first half. Just keep chopping wood........gradually pull away........and then finish them. That's the formula. Ball luck helped Joe look smart as well. Diggs and Allen both had fumbles that were not recovered by the Jets(the Allen fumble was recovered by Spencer Brown but got picked up for a penalty as well). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Dorsey had his shortcomings but ultimately the players on offense are the most to blame for keeping many games too close this season with volumes of inexcusable turnovers........... But the biggest difference was still that they didn't turn the ball over and keep the inferior team in the game I think you're giving short shrift to the unreal frequency of execution errors that killed drive after drive. It was worse than the turnovers, imo; more frustrating anyways. I suspect that Dorsey was not a details guy in practice and that might be the biggest positive result from the change. Agreed on the more traditional game plan; been whining for years that it's the best thing you can do for Allen. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Simon said: I think you're giving short shrift to the unreal frequency of execution errors that killed drive after drive. It was worse than the turnovers, imo; more frustrating anyways. I suspect that Dorsey was not a details guy in practice and that might be the biggest positive result from the change. Agreed on the more traditional game plan; been whining for years that it's the best thing you can do for Allen. I haven't heard that Dorsey was inattentive to detail. I'd heard the opposite. The reality though is that he was a first time OC. A true rookie OC hasn't won a SB in the last 40 years or so but McD let Josh choose his boy anyway. I think the larger issue has really been what's gone on with Allen the past 12 months.........between the injuries and the stupid stuff off the field. He hasn't handled the transition to fame and super-rich like one would hope. More than anything I think Joshy needed a shot in the arm. They go as he goes. Simple as that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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