Bills fans are tough on coaches.!

[SloanBillsFan]

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/buffalo-bills-head-coach-record

Sitting in my endocrinologist office I started trying to remember all the head coaches since I moved to WNY. I remembered Jauron, Gailey, and Marone. Forgot (subliminally) about Ryan. 

 

At the bottom the search return was a link which read 18 more 🤯 Aside from Marv Levy and Sean McDermott not a single coach lasted more than a couple of years. Holy Schnikes!

 

Greg Williams is 3rd with 4 seasons. Everyone else is 1-3 seasons and gone. I didn't look at other teams but dang! For Buffalo that's a head coaching change every 2.8 years.

 

No wonder everybody's so quick to chop heads every couple of years. Granted I know why 6 of the last 7 didn't last but still, dang! 

 

Wow

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, SloanBillsFan said:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/buffalo-bills-head-coach-record

Sitting in my endocrinologist office I started trying to remember all the head coaches since I moved to WNY. I remembered Jauron, Gailey, and Marone. Forgot (subliminally) about Ryan. 

 

At the bottom the search return was a link which read 18 more 🤯 Aside from Marv Levy and Sean McDermott not a single coach lasted more than a couple of years. Holy Schnikes!

 

Greg Williams is 3rd with 4 seasons. Everyone else is 1-3 seasons and gone. I didn't look at other teams but dang! For Buffalo that's a head coaching change every 2.8 years.

 

No wonder everybody's so quick to chop heads every couple of years. Granted I know why 6 of the last 7 didn't last but still, dang! 

 

Wow

So what you’re trying to say is it’s WAY past time for McD to be gone. Good….we agree. 👍

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, SloanBillsFan said:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/buffalo-bills-head-coach-record

Sitting in my endocrinologist office I started trying to remember all the head coaches since I moved to WNY. I remembered Jauron, Gailey, and Marone. Forgot (subliminally) about Ryan. 

 

At the bottom the search return was a link which read 18 more 🤯 Aside from Marv Levy and Sean McDermott not a single coach lasted more than a couple of years. Holy Schnikes!

 

Greg Williams is 3rd with 4 seasons. Everyone else is 1-3 seasons and gone. I didn't look at other teams but dang! For Buffalo that's a head coaching change every 2.8 years.

 

No wonder everybody's so quick to chop heads every couple of years. Granted I know why 6 of the last 7 didn't last but still, dang! 

 

Wow

It's the way it is with every fanbase these days. Fans want instant gratification. Bengal fans were screaming for their HC to get fired 8 games into a season after they made the Super Bowl because they lost in the AFCCG. They are screaming for it again this year.

 

Fans remind me of Veruca from the first Willie Wonka movie (the Gene Wilder classic, not the crud remake) "Don't care how....I WANT IT NOW"

[JoeF]

Bills already interviewing McDermott replacements - the search will be far and wide and include other sports .... first up Torey Lovullo of the Diamondbacks 

 

(Wife is from Grand Island -- must be in town for Thanksgiving)...

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

14 minutes ago, SloanBillsFan said:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/buffalo-bills-head-coach-record

Sitting in my endocrinologist office I started trying to remember all the head coaches since I moved to WNY. I remembered Jauron, Gailey, and Marone. Forgot (subliminally) about Ryan. 

 

At the bottom the search return was a link which read 18 more 🤯 Aside from Marv Levy and Sean McDermott not a single coach lasted more than a couple of years. Holy Schnikes!

 

Greg Williams is 3rd with 4 seasons. Everyone else is 1-3 seasons and gone. I didn't look at other teams but dang! For Buffalo that's a head coaching change every 2.8 years.

 

No wonder everybody's so quick to chop heads every couple of years. Granted I know why 6 of the last 7 didn't last but still, dang! 

 

Wow

 

McDermott's been here for what, 7 years now?

 

That's more than most coaches get

 

[Livinginthepast]

14 minutes ago, SloanBillsFan said:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/buffalo-bills-head-coach-record

Sitting in my endocrinologist office I started trying to remember all the head coaches since I moved to WNY. I remembered Jauron, Gailey, and Marone. Forgot (subliminally) about Ryan. 

 

At the bottom the search return was a link which read 18 more 🤯 Aside from Marv Levy and Sean McDermott not a single coach lasted more than a couple of years. Holy Schnikes!

 

Greg Williams is 3rd with 4 seasons. Everyone else is 1-3 seasons and gone. I didn't look at other teams but dang! For Buffalo that's a head coaching change every 2.8 years.

 

No wonder everybody's so quick to chop heads every couple of years. Granted I know why 6 of the last 7 didn't last but still, dang! 

 

Wow

I was thinking how McD gets a lot of love because even though he may not be the one to take use to the promised land, he is still so much better than several in the drought. You cant get worse than arrogant stupidity of Williams, the angry dysfunction of St.Doug, the bumbling ineptitude of Rex or the 1000 yard stare of Dick Jauron!

[Rigotz]

Well... yeah.

 

We sucked for 20 years.

 

Usually coaches don't last more than 3 years when they suck.

[FireChans]

17 minutes ago, SloanBillsFan said:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/buffalo-bills-head-coach-record

Sitting in my endocrinologist office I started trying to remember all the head coaches since I moved to WNY. I remembered Jauron, Gailey, and Marone. Forgot (subliminally) about Ryan. 

 

At the bottom the search return was a link which read 18 more 🤯 Aside from Marv Levy and Sean McDermott not a single coach lasted more than a couple of years. Holy Schnikes!

 

Greg Williams is 3rd with 4 seasons. Everyone else is 1-3 seasons and gone. I didn't look at other teams but dang! For Buffalo that's a head coaching change every 2.8 years.

 

No wonder everybody's so quick to chop heads every couple of years. Granted I know why 6 of the last 7 didn't last but still, dang! 

 

Wow

Coaches get fired a lot because they usually suck and it doesn't take 10 years to figure that out.

 

Blaming the fans for bad coaches getting fired for being bad is wrong.

[Fleezoid]

It really depends culture in ownership and GM, not so much the fans. Look at the Steelers. They've had 3 coaches and stood pat on Bill Cowher when fans were screaming for him to get fired a couple of years during the Slash era. All fans get crazy when things go bad. It just depends how much of a trigger finger the owner has. I think the longer a team stinks, the happier that trigger finger gets. And the Bills have had long stretches of suck!

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Coaches get fired a lot because they usually suck and it doesn't take 10 years to figure that out.

 

Blaming the fans for bad coaches getting fired for being bad is wrong.

Especially when you have an owner like Ralph Wilson who had major trust issues. 

[Charles Romes]

82 percent of people want the coach who ended a 17 year drought, and has been to the playoffs 5/6 years gone. 

[WhoTom]

At the other end of the spectrum, the Steelers have had only three head coaches over the past 55 years. During that stretch, they went to eight SBs and won six.

 

 

[Dubie54]

The coaches you mentioned: Jauron, Gailey, Marone, Ryan, and Williams all sucked. Bad hires that never should have been given the job. McD has been a decent coach but every coach hits his ceiling with a team and reaches a point when it's time to move on. The jury is still out on McD, but he is showing clear signs that he is not the guy to get us a championship.

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Fleezoid said:

It really depends culture in ownership and GM, not so much the fans. Look at the Steelers. They've had 3 coaches and stood pat on Bill Cowher when fans were screaming for him to get fired a couple of years during the Slash era. All fans get crazy when things go bad. It just depends how much of a trigger finger the owner has. I think the longer a team stinks, the happier that trigger finger gets. And the Bills have had long stretches of suck!

Probably because Bill Cowher didn't have a losing season until year 7.

 

He was a good coach. Tomlin is a good coach.

[blitzboy54]

6 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

82 percent of people want the coach who ended a 17 year drought, and has been to the playoffs 5/6 years gone. 

 

82 percent of people want the coach who ended a 17 year drought, and has choked in every meaningful game since he's been here gone

Edited November 17, 2023 by blitzboy54

[Gunsgoodtime]

16 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

82 percent of people want the coach who ended a 17 year drought, and has been to the playoffs 5/6 years gone. 

Just because the prostitute down the street did a good job for you the past few years, but never could get the job done don't mean you have to keep paying her when her services are old and tired. You replace her with a new one with more skills right down the street!  

Edited November 17, 2023 by Gunsgoodtime

[Mikie2times]

I think Buffalo is one of the most rewarding places to play in the NFL and also one of the most difficult. I recall reporters asking Rodgers how he would fair with the New York media and he said Green Bay might not be a big market, but it has a really big spot light.  

[fasteddie]

Don't you mean the coaches are tough on the fans? Their decisions often give me ulcers.

[YodaMan79]

9 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I think Buffalo is one of the most rewarding places to play in the NFL and also one of the most difficult. I recall reporters asking Rodgers how he would fair with the New York media and he said Green Bay might not be a big market, but it has a really big spot light.  

 

I'm curious as to why you'd think Buffalo would be one of the most difficult places to play in the NFL?  Rewarding I get, nice small market feel, good cost of living, you can be part of the community...I don't see difficult.  The media in WNY is not exactly hard hitting. 

[Mikie2times]

Just now, YodaMan79 said:

 

I'm curious as to why you'd think Buffalo would be one of the most difficult places to play in the NFL?  Rewarding I get, nice small market feel, good cost of living, you can be part of the community...I don't see difficult.  The media in WNY is not exactly hard hitting. 

I view it as a pretty small fish tank where everything you do is hyper analyzed

[Buffalo ill]

2 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said:

 

I'm curious as to why you'd think Buffalo would be one of the most difficult places to play in the NFL?  Rewarding I get, nice small market feel, good cost of living, you can be part of the community...I don't see difficult.  The media in WNY is not exactly hard hitting. 

Isn't NY a socialist state that taxes most of it's workers paychecks? 

[Cubanmist 1]

Understatement! Some don’t know what they are talking about, others do.  

[boater]

The years of despair. Here are some names to stir up bad memories:

 

Gregg Williams

Mike Mularkey

Dick Jauron

Perry Fewell

Chan Gailey

Doug Marrone

Rex Ryan

 

Remember... those coaches were ostensibly the best hire available, the hottest name of those willing to move to WNY.

 

When I assess the performance of the current regime, I contrast it with the above names. If you fire McDermott and replace him with the newest fad best hire available, it is statistically likely you hire a dud and we're back to years of futility.

[Matt_In_NH]

This is not a Bills fan thing, its an NFL thing.

 

Pat Kirwan keeps count of how many coaches have been fired in the AFC East since BB has been coaching, the number is well into the 20's.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Buffalo ill said:

Isn't NY a socialist state that taxes most of it's workers paychecks? 

 

Ever see what California does?

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

Bring back the Swantz!!!!!!!

[stuvian]

Mularkey left because his kids were getting harassed at school 

[mrags]

4 minutes ago, stuvian said:

Mularkey left because his kids were getting harassed at school 

I mean. They deserved it. They were born and raised by that idiot 

[Buffalo ill]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Ever see what California does?

Trust me, nobody loathes California as much as people who live in western states, but not on the coast.

[LABILLBACKER]

3 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

82 percent of people want the coach who ended a 17 year drought, and has been to the playoffs 5/6 years gone. 

Yeah because 82% of fans realize he is extremely limited in how deep he can take a team.  Sometimes continuity is more appealing than the ultimate goal.  I want a HC that can take Josh to a Lombardi.  If it means we don't have a top 5 defense,  so be it.  Besides every fanbase complains about their coaches, except KC.

Edited November 17, 2023 by LABILLBACKER

[That's No Moon]

4 hours ago, JoeF said:

Bills already interviewing McDermott replacements - the search will be far and wide and include other sports .... first up Torey Lovullo of the Diamondbacks 

 

(Wife is from Grand Island -- must be in town for Thanksgiving)...

He just lost the World Series. He's perfect.

[PBF81]

4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

It's the way it is with every fanbase these days. Fans want instant gratification. Bengal fans were screaming for their HC to get fired 8 games into a season after they made the Super Bowl because they lost in the AFCCG. They are screaming for it again this year.

 

Fans remind me of Veruca from the first Willie Wonka movie (the Gene Wilder classic, not the crud remake) "Don't care how....I WANT IT NOW"

 

Completely agree.  

 

Now that things have disintegrated under McD, Pegula needs to sign him up for yet another 7 years.  He did it once, he can do it again!

 

Just BILL-IEVE!!!  

 

 

 

[SoMAn]

3 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

82 percent of people want the coach who ended a 17 year drought, and has been to the playoffs 5/6 years gone. 

which is why I effectively said in the poll thread that 82% of active posters who responded to the poll are clueless. They're all butt hurt because in their minds McDermott dashed their high hopes and ruined their year (even though the final outcome has yet to be determined).  

[PBF81]

4 hours ago, SloanBillsFan said:

At the bottom the search return was a link which read 18 more 🤯 Aside from Marv Levy and Sean McDermott not a single coach lasted more than a couple of years. Holy Schnikes!

 

What's a Schnike?  

 

  

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

It's the way it is with every fanbase these days. Fans want instant gratification. Bengal fans were screaming for their HC to get fired 8 games into a season after they made the Super Bowl because they lost in the AFCCG. They are screaming for it again this year.

 

Fans remind me of Veruca from the first Willie Wonka movie (the Gene Wilder classic, not the crud remake) "Don't care how....I WANT IT NOW"

 

 

Bengals fans had to put up with 16 years of Marvin Lewis futility.

 

Bad example.

[That's No Moon]

I don't think Bills fans are tougher on coaches than anyone else. Right now I think we expect to see a well run, well disciplined team and we don't see that. We see stupid sloppy errors that are costing them games. Not talent issues or physical errors, mental errors. The sort of errors that teams that are generally considered to be well coached don't see. They also see the team frequently starting slowly and in a malaise, indicating that they aren't ready to play and/or that the game plan was poorly conceived. At this point McDermott is a veteran coach. People get pissy with dumb mistakes.

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Bengals fans had to put up with 16 years of Marvin Lewis futility.

 

Bad example.

Eagle fans rode Andy Reid's clock management, horrible press conferences, and failure in big games for years.

[PBF81]

4 hours ago, SloanBillsFan said:

At the bottom the search return was a link which read 18 more 🤯 Aside from Marv Levy and Sean McDermott not a single coach lasted more than a couple of years. Holy Schnikes!

 

What's a Schnike?  

 

  

 

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Something that very few talk about when discussing McD, or even McBeane in this mix, is that in the 7 season that McD's had, 6 for Beane, ... 7 and 6, not 3 and 2, McD's been treating this team as if it's his own private personal live FFL Defense.  

 

They trade up to get Allen, then spend almost no resources and zero 1st-Round picks on OTs or even OL-men in general, they continually sign a slew of 1-2 year cheap JAG OL journeymen, presumably panning for gold hoping to find a nugget in the even-a-stopped-clock-is-right-twice-a-day mode, coming up empty. 

 

Via the draft, until Torrence, seven seasons in, Brown was a late-3rd-rounder and Cody Ford an early 2nd was a bust.  

 

For WRs, in 6 Beane drafts, not one WR on days 1 or 2.  Other than Davis in the late 4th, not where you'd typically find a #2 WR, Shakir in the early 5th Round was the highest drafted WR.  

 

No shortage of DEs, DTs, and DBs though.  

 

McD's living in the '90s.  

 

 

[That's No Moon]

11 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

which is why I effectively said in the poll thread that 82% of active posters who responded to the poll are clueless. They're all butt hurt because in their minds McDermott dashed their high hopes and ruined their year (even though the final outcome has yet to be determined).  

McDermott has been overmatched since day 1 and has been fortunate enough to be able to out talent most of the teams he faces. Now that he can't do that you see what happens. Sean needs to scheme up some wins and it's not happening. 

[RiotAct]

4 hours ago, Livinginthepast said:

I was thinking how McD gets a lot of love because even though he may not be the one to take use to the promised land, he is still so much better than several in the drought. You cant get worse than arrogant stupidity of Williams, the angry dysfunction of St.Doug, the bumbling ineptitude of Rex or the 1000 yard stare of Dick Jauron!

don’t forget the malarkey of Mularkey

[Milanos Milano]

3 hours ago, stuvian said:

Mularkey left because his kids were getting harassed at school 

Is this a load of Mularkey or is it the truth?