Matt Milano injury

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, AZSanta said:

I agree it may be too soon to know anything anyways. I was hoping someone in here may have heard anything that hasn't already been reported.

 

That's actually a possibility.  The guy you want is @HappyDays

[TheBrownBear]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

McDermott said "medically it was more complex than I would know how to explain, so can I just classify it like the NHL and just call it lower body?"  It was reported that Milano didn't have any serious ligament damage other than a potential MCL sprain and McD refused to rule him out for the entire season and left the door open for a return at some point late in the year/playoffs. Neither did he rule out Daquan Jones for the entire season and left the door open on a return for him as well.

I missed those quotes from McD.  Thanks for sharing.  Seems like relatively good news given all the potential outcomes.

[krf139]

2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Well actually what you state has no bearing whatsoever on the dissemination of his health information, it’s the HIPA laws/regulations that come into play. Just assume he won’t be back till next season, anything earlier is gravy. 

Why should nfl teams even bother releasing injury reports if any information about player health is private and legally protected information? 

Edited October 27, 2023 by krf139

[Don Otreply]

6 minutes ago, krf139 said:

Why should nfl teams even bother releasing injury reports if any information about player health is private and legally protected information? 

A player can allow a statement without actual details, it’s likely contractual to some minor degree, but as an employer the NFL believe it or not has to follow the HIPA rules, 

[Beck Water]

18 minutes ago, krf139 said:

Why should nfl teams even bother releasing injury reports if any information about player health is private and legally protected information? 

 

I thought the point is to indicate availability for the game, as information for gamblers.  So if you know the best DLman didn't practice with a foot injury and is "out" for the game or "doubtful", you can adjust your bets accordingly.

 

But you aren't entitled to know whether he has a turf toe or a lisfranc injury unless the player chooses to disclose it.

 

"Injury spotters" can watch film and hypothesize about the actual injury and its severity, of course.

Edited October 27, 2023 by Beck Water

[ProcessTruster]

see ya next year Matt

[Flipnmi]

32 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Even if there's a 20% chance getting them back by the start of the playoffs,  I'd be ecstatic. 

Fully agree!  My fear was that if the ligament damage was a moderate to significant ACL tear, he would likely need to wait for the broken bone to heal before having surgery for the ACL. I'm not a medical professional, but my daughter tore her ACL 3 times.  PT in the first weeks after an ACL reconstruction is critical to recovery and I don't know how you do that with a broken leg. If this were the case, this could push the timing for his return well into next season. If it was only a MCL sprain, that would be really great news.

[RiotAct]

4 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

They had to amputate it.  He’s six to eight weeks.

Pansy!

[Marcus Aurelius]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

They had to amputate it.  He’s six to eight weeks.

There's always a wise guy in the crowd  ...

[Scott7975]

5 hours ago, AZSanta said:

I'm sure i'm not the only person wondering. If it is unethical to be concerned about a players well being ok. As fan we are emotionally invested in this team and its players. I dont think its asking too much for a a more detailed update.

 

There is nothing wrong with wondering and wanting to know but they are just as entitled to medical privacy as everyone else. Also, a few weeks is nothing.  When I had my neck surgery I had some paralysis issues for months.  I still have a ton of problems over 2 years later.  He is rehabbing. It's going to take time.  I doubt this was career ending though.

[Bill Lewes]

I'd guess the players CBA spells out the rules for disclosing injuries, but I don't think HIPAA rules would come into it

 

 

Edited October 28, 2023 by Bill Lewes

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

7 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

They had to amputate it.  He’s six to eight weeks.

 

Yeah I read it's 6 weeks if they can match him with a cadavers leg, 8 weeks if they are forced to use a pigs leg.

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, Bill Lewes said:

I'd guess the players CBA spells out the rules for disclosing injuries, but I don't think HIPAA rules would come into it

 

As someone who has to go thru HIPAA training it applies to employers (Teams) and unions (NFLPA).  

[DapperCam]

1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

 

As someone who has to go thru HIPAA training it applies to employers (Teams) and unions (NFLPA).  

Employers are generally not covered by HIPAA. HIPAA only applies to covered entities like health providers (i.e. doctors/hospitals), and health insurers. The NFL can publish any info they would like if they have the information from the player or health care provider (at least from the perspective of HIPAA).

[Warriorspikes51]

^ not his real account. 

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

^ not his real account. 

 

 I deleted

[BUFFALOTONE]

On 10/27/2023 at 7:43 PM, Flipnmi said:

Fully agree!  My fear was that if the ligament damage was a moderate to significant ACL tear, he would likely need to wait for the broken bone to heal before having surgery for the ACL. I'm not a medical professional, but my daughter tore her ACL 3 times.  PT in the first weeks after an ACL reconstruction is critical to recovery and I don't know how you do that with a broken leg. If this were the case, this could push the timing for his return well into next season. If it was only a MCL sprain, that would be really great news.

He already had surgery if that means anything. 

[North Buffalo]

On 10/27/2023 at 8:56 PM, Bill Lewes said:

I'd guess the players CBA spells out the rules for disclosing injuries, but I don't think HIPAA rules would come into it

 

 

Oh HIPPA definitely does, medical privacy is up to patient and would override any CBA... federal law.

[MikePJ76]

for what its worth I didnt get the sense that milano or jones are going to be back this season after listening to beane this morning.

[Irv]

Calcium deposit on his Medulla Oblongata.  Return in doubt.  

[eball]

On 10/27/2023 at 3:27 PM, Einstein said:

 

I read that Daquan Jones should be back for the playoffs.

I believe it was by Dr. Chao.

 

You mean the w-h-o-r-e doc who just watches film and then predicts how long a player will be out?

 

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by eball

[Buffalo03]

Not sure if people are being sarcastic or not with the spleen thing but he got his leg all twisted up in a pile and was said to have fractured his leg. Not sure how that would affect his spleen

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Not sure if people are being sarcastic or not with the spleen thing but he got his leg all twisted up in a pile and was said to have fractured his leg. Not sure how that would affect his spleen

 

All injuries are spleen injuries

 

[Mango]

6 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

All injuries are spleen injuries

 

 

Fair technicality. I appreciate this. 

[Einstein]

18 minutes ago, eball said:

 

You mean the w-h-o-r-e doc who just watches film and then predicts how long a player will be out?

I mean the orthopaedic surgeon with decades of experience, including as a member of the the NFL Physicians Society and has been correct about the majority of the injuries/timelines he has diagnosed.

[eball]

29 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I mean the orthopaedic surgeon with decades of experience, including as a member of the the NFL Physicians Society and has been correct about the majority of the injuries/timelines he has diagnosed.

 

He gets paid by FanDuel to "diagnose" injuries and predict games missed without putting hands on a patient.  He's an unethical w-h-o-r-e.

 

[Bills!Win!]

1 hour ago, Irv said:

Calcium deposit on his Medulla Oblongata.  Return in doubt.  

 Huh?

[Warcodered]

51 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Not sure if people are being sarcastic or not with the spleen thing but he got his leg all twisted up in a pile and was said to have fractured his leg. Not sure how that would affect his spleen

Spleen is a versatile organ you wouldn't believe where it gets up to doing it's work.

5 minutes ago, eball said:

 

He gets paid by FanDuel to "diagnose" injuries and predict games missed without putting hands on a patient.  He's an unethical w-h-o-r-e.

 

He's generally close which isn't surprising given his background but is also frequently off about specifics which isn't surprising considering he's just eyeballing it. So yeah pretty much what you said.

[Saint Doug]

14 minutes ago, eball said:

 

He gets paid by FanDuel to "diagnose" injuries and predict games missed without putting hands on a patient.  He's an unethical w-h-o-r-e.

 

I can’t knock the hustle. Someone is paying him for his opinion. I don’t see how ethics play into this. He has no relationship with these players. Anyone on here would probably do the same if given a chance. 

[NoSaint]

15 minutes ago, eball said:

 

He gets paid by FanDuel to "diagnose" injuries and predict games missed without putting hands on a patient.  He's an unethical w-h-o-r-e.

 

I mean, as a guy giving cliff notes fantasy football advice based on semi educated guesses… I don’t mind these guys chiming in. It’s not like he’s prescribing medical treatment without seeing the patient. You seem pretty worked up about them.

[Punching Bag]

52 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:

I can’t knock the hustle. Someone is paying him for his opinion. I don’t see how ethics play into this. He has no relationship with these players. Anyone on here would probably do the same if given a chance. 

 

Many posters should do whatever they can do to make most money even if it is breaking contract, falsifying tests, holding out, etc.

Why should others not get all they can get?

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, Saint Doug said:

 I don’t see how ethics play into this. He has no relationship with these players.

It doesn't. I'm not sure what eball is upset about.

And the guy is right the vast majority of the time I have seen him.

When you have spent decades as an orthopedic surgeon, and have been the team doctor for an NFL team, it appears when you see the same injuries, year in and year out, it becomes easy to tell what on-field mechanism relates to what injury.

[MJS]

On 10/27/2023 at 2:21 PM, Doc Brown said:

They had to amputate it.  He’s six to eight weeks.

With his bionic leg he'll be even better!

[34-78-83]

We still don't know if there was ligament damage to go with Milano's fracture, or do we? It would certainly make a potential difference in rehab time.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:

We still don't know if there was ligament damage to go with Milano's fracture, or do we? It would certainly make a potential difference in rehab time.

 

I haven't seen much in the way of details regarding his injury, so it's all weird with the Soon and the blue heart and trying to decipher that.

[34-78-83]

3 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

I haven't seen much in the way of details regarding his injury, so it's all weird with the Soon and the blue heart and trying to decipher that.

Yeah I haven't seen anything either. Maybe @HappyDays knows something :).  Beyond that, I think the "soon" was a false account, as some here have pointed out.

[Franco_92]

Just now, 34-78-83 said:

Yeah I haven't seen anything either. Maybe @HappyDays knows something :).  Beyond that, I think the "soon" was a false account, as some here have pointed out.

He has said he doesn't know, and even the cover 1 guys who have insiders have no idea when they're asked in the private slack. Milano and the team are keeping dead quiet about details to a degree we normally don't see in the NFL. it fits his character.

[Virgil]

There's a Milano Facebook account that claims to be him, and he allegedly posted something about being able to return.  I don't think the account is real, just someone trying to get clicks.  

 

However, I do feel like he could be back for the playoffs, based off the comments we've heard from Beane and McD.  That would be huge

[Irv]

1 hour ago, Bills!Win! said:

 Huh?

 

Expect violent outbursts if he ever returns.  Madula Oblongata.  Lifetime injury.  

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by Irv

[eball]

1 hour ago, Saint Doug said:

I can’t knock the hustle. Someone is paying him for his opinion. I don’t see how ethics play into this. He has no relationship with these players. Anyone on here would probably do the same if given a chance. 

 

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

I mean, as a guy giving cliff notes fantasy football advice based on semi educated guesses… I don’t mind these guys chiming in. It’s not like he’s prescribing medical treatment without seeing the patient. You seem pretty worked up about them.

 

46 minutes ago, Einstein said:

It doesn't. I'm not sure what eball is upset about.

And the guy is right the vast majority of the time I have seen him.

When you have spent decades as an orthopedic surgeon, and have been the team doctor for an NFL team, it appears when you see the same injuries, year in and year out, it becomes easy to tell what on-field mechanism relates to what injury.

 

I do think ethics play into it when you're openly providing opinions, holding yourself out as an expert, with respect to a player's protected medical information.  Most of the folks reading his tweets think he has direct knowledge of the injury/timeline because that's how he presents himself.

 

Look, he's making a buck by doing this for gamblers and fantasy football players.  I just call it like it is.