Nelius Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Feels like it would be a lot worse if it wasn't consecutive. Four in a row is total AFC dominance for a unique stretch and something that we may not see again for a long time. But yes ultimately, pain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Ok That wasn't the question No but you left it out because it was not the rest of the question and you were Phishing a specific answer. Phish are so slimy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, Limeaid said: No but you left it out because it was not the rest of the question and you were Phishing a specific answer. Phish are so slimy. Take a lap bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I consider it worse than winning one. Better than not getting to any. Isn't that obvious? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Looking back at this four SBs and the one that really hurts is the wide right. The Bills were by far the superior team and really didn't execute well. I'd say that were outcoached as well There is no doubt in my mind the Bills should have won. The opportunity was blown badly. That still stings in the memory bank... The two Dallas losses although it sucked were results of a great Cowboy team. The Bills stunk up the venue but I don't feel like they had good chances to win either. Maybe others seen it differently. The Wash game was another disappointment. Truthfully, all I really remember is the hype of the "hogs." Seemed like Wash was on a huge roll and had a dream season despite the lack of an elite QB. I welcome any more detailed comments or corrections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 It was the best four-year period in Bills fan history and I enjoyed every minute of it. Yes, the SB losses stung, but I wouldn’t give up those memories for anything. The people who only give credit for the “ring” and don’t enjoy the ride are out to lunch, in my opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 What seems to be lost in history, which no younger people understand, is how dominant the NFC was in that era. 13 straight super bowls. Winning the AFC conference at that time was like winning the AAC, then having to knock off the SEC champion. The Bills accomplishment has grown in stature in the minds of sports historians because the NFC dominance factor has been lost in history. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, eball said: It was the best four-year period in Bills fan history and I enjoyed every minute of it. Yes, the SB losses stung, but I wouldn’t give up those memories for anything. The people who only give credit for the “ring” and don’t enjoy the ride are out to lunch, in my opinion. That wasn't my point and it was great. The question on the post is , do you consider losing 4 straight Superbowls to be bad. Not directed at you but the question isn't about the Kelly era, the AFC Championships or anything else. Just losing 4 straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: What seems to be lost in history, which no younger people understand, is how dominant the NFC was in that era. 13 straight super bowls. Winning the AFC conference at that time was like winning the AAC, then having to knock off the SEC champion. The Bills accomplishment has grown in stature in the minds of sports historians because the NFC dominance factor has been lost in history. The Bills’ record against the NFC in games that mattered during that 4-year run was stellar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 59 minutes ago, eball said: It was the best four-year period in Bills fan history and I enjoyed every minute of it. Yes, the SB losses stung, but I wouldn’t give up those memories for anything. The people who only give credit for the “ring” and don’t enjoy the ride are out to lunch, in my opinion. Agree. It's about the climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Looking back, my overall assessment would be much worse if I hadn’t actually attended the last two. Being at the Super Bowl was an outright blast! It was much easier to take the loss being in the stadium and the fans around us (from both teams) were great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Yes, getting your soul ripped out of you 4 years in a row is BAD. That era of Bills football was magical however, and provided plenty of fun and excitement along the way. I do recall though, heading into the 2nd Cowboys SB, thinking that there's just no way we win at this point, for one reason or another. I wasn't wrong. Those SB losses were hard to swallow. They hit some fans a lot harder than others. NFC was dominant those years. Each of our opponents had some of the best O lines ever assembled. Our team could’ve beaten many of the SB winners. Bad timing. With passing years, I have come to embrace that legacy. It’s part of our story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuartjohn Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 20 hours ago, nucci said: That was me....I wasn't saying those times weren't great. I lived in Buffalo and had tickets then. I also went to the first 3 Superbowls, but how can you say those Superbowl losses weren't bad? We lost 4 Superbowls. How can that be anything but bad? I would have preferred going to One Only and Winning! Than be an embarrassment Reminder to the Start of Every FB Season! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Overall, there were a lot of great times, many victories, historical team. The part that is the stickler for me (and many other Bills fans) is that the Bills should have won Super Bowl 25. They would have won 4 out of 5 against the Giants. They were facing the backup QB for gods sake. They had beaten the Giants in NJ after Kelly was knocked out of the game a few weeks earlier. Unfortunately, they faced the Giants after a crushing win 51-3 (blew their wad) and a single week between AFC Championship and Super Bowl to decompress. That is the ‘one that got away’. We know it. They know it. Then, the Bills had the unfortunate timing of playing Juggernauts Washington and Dallas, both of whom were peaking at just the right time. The Redskins were an anomaly with Rypien having the best year of his career. The Cowboys drafts from ‘88-‘92 were coming to fruition. Gotta give them credit for making the most of those picks. The Super Bowl matchup that never was: Buffalo and San Francisco kept missing each other. If that regular season ‘no punt’ contest the Bills won in SF was any indicator, that would have been a fantastic Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) Enjoyed the run. Dissappointed we didn't win one, but I still love that era of Bills football Edited June 30, 2023 by ddaryl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Bad coaching. Hopefully McDermott doesn't repeat that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 23 hours ago, Gregg said: Overall, it was a great time. The Bills won a lot of regular season games and playoff games. You had the Kelly and Marino led battles with the Bills and Fish. But with that said it was frustrating that they couldn't win one. They should have won the Giants game. They really were the better team but credit the Giants as they played the perfect game. Hogging the ball for 40 minutes and keeping it away from Kelly and Thurman (who was on fire that day). Hopefully the Allen led Bills can a bring a championship to WNY. If any fanbase deserves one its Bills fans. My vote was not bad. Bad was the 70's and 1984, 1985, as well as the drought. I was looking through and pricing my old football cards with my daughter two nights ago. Daughter: "Dad, who is Ottis Anderson, you have alot of him". Me: ............. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 9:56 AM, nucci said: That was me....I wasn't saying those times weren't great. I lived in Buffalo and had tickets then. I also went to the first 3 Superbowls, but how can you say those Superbowl losses weren't bad? We lost 4 Superbowls. How can that be anything but bad? I think it’s all in regards to perspective. Losing the super bowls themselves was definitely bad, but the whole timeframe in general was not bad (my viewpoint atleast), especially when compared against the 17 year drought. I’d rather lose the Super Bowl every year than not make the playoffs. The question really comes down to game itself or the season itself. Just depends on how someone interprets the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 straight AFC championships. Of course I wish we won one, but that was a feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 The question is limited to SB losses. They were all bad beats--1 heartbreaker, 3 embarrassments, so...bad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716to540 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I lived thru it. Yea, it was bad. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Teams that party the night before the big dance do not deserve to win Super Bowls. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Skipped ahead from bottom of page 1 to last page...I'm hoping more posters have since explained that while the experience of living through 4 consecutive SB runs (I was in grades 7-10) was amazing, the end result was trauma and fatigue, especially when the historically relevant, but ultimately futile, era was eventually terminally punctuated by Trace Armstrong in the 1998-99 wildcard game, and finished off by Frank Wycheck and Kevin Dyson in the wildcard round the following season. A legacy of devastating collapse. After Rob Johnson successfully led them down the field to kick the go-ahead FG, and my best friend at college (not much of a football fan) asked me "That's it, right? They did it?" I said, "Nothing's over, yet" like some kind of cynical Rocky Balboa. I partially expected the improbable, unprecedented kickoff coverage collapse. The Bills had broken my heart before any girls really got to it back in 7th grade. They'd continued to build me up and let me down throughout my teenage years (like exactly years 10-20). I don't understand how peers of similar age walked away without incredible damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Skipped ahead from bottom of page 1 to last page...I'm hoping more posters have since explained that while the experience of living through 4 consecutive SB runs (I was in grades 7-10) was amazing, the end result was trauma and fatigue, especially when the historically relevant, but ultimately futile, era was eventually terminally punctuated by Trace Armstrong in the 1998-99 wildcard game, and finished off by Frank Wycheck and Kevin Dyson in the wildcard round the following season. A legacy of devastating collapse. After Rob Johnson successfully led them down the field to kick the go-ahead FG, and my best friend at college (not much of a football fan) asked me "That's it, right? They did it?" I said, "Nothing's over, yet" like some kind of cynical Rocky Balboa. I partially expected the improbable, unprecedented kickoff coverage collapse. The Bills had broken my heart before any girls really got to it back in 7th grade. They'd continued to build me up and let me down throughout my teenage years (like exactly years 10-20). I don't understand how peers of similar age walked away without incredible damage. I was in my undergrad years during the SB run....so I'm a bit ahead of you, and my reaction was about the same back then. "Devastation" is a good word to use. Edited July 1, 2023 by Nextmanup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/30/2023 at 6:21 AM, Charles Romes said: What seems to be lost in history, which no younger people understand, is how dominant the NFC was in that era. 13 straight super bowls. Winning the AFC conference at that time was like winning the AAC, then having to knock off the SEC champion. The Bills accomplishment has grown in stature in the minds of sports historians because the NFC dominance factor has been lost in history. On 6/30/2023 at 6:39 AM, eball said: The Bills’ record against the NFC in games that mattered during that 4-year run was stellar. Just for kicks I went back and checked. From 90-93 the Bills were 14-2 against the NFC, with the two losses coming in meaningless last games of the season in 90 and 91 in which the Bills sat their starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said: Teams that party the night before the big dance do not deserve to win Super Bowls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Mixed. That team was lots of fun but also heartbreaking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 You need a third option: ”'Cause it's a bittersweet symphony, that's life ” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Just a question for fans that feel shame about 4 straight SB losses, how many teams in NFL history have made it to 3 straight SBs? The answer is one other than us. Those Bills were all time great teams that were clutch, resilient and really talented. The first SB should have been a W but fate had other ideas. The other 3 were remarkable in that we overcame major obstacles to just get there and met more talented teams in the big game. I’m proud of those teams and that feat in the age of FA will never be accomplished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 48 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: Just a question for fans that feel shame about 4 straight SB losses, how many teams in NFL history have made it to 3 straight SBs? The answer is one other than us. Those Bills were all time great teams that were clutch, resilient and really talented. The first SB should have been a W but fate had other ideas. The other 3 were remarkable in that we overcame major obstacles to just get there and met more talented teams in the big game. I’m proud of those teams and that feat in the age of FA will never be accomplished. The question is , do you consider 4 straight Superbowls losses to be bad. It's a simple yes or no. Nothing to do with getting there, nothing against how great those teams were, just a simple question. No one is downplaying how great a time and how exciting it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Skipped ahead from bottom of page 1 to last page...I'm hoping more posters have since explained that while the experience of living through 4 consecutive SB runs (I was in grades 7-10) was amazing, the end result was trauma and fatigue, especially when the historically relevant, but ultimately futile, era was eventually terminally punctuated by Trace Armstrong in the 1998-99 wildcard game, and finished off by Frank Wycheck and Kevin Dyson in the wildcard round the following season. A legacy of devastating collapse. After Rob Johnson successfully led them down the field to kick the go-ahead FG, and my best friend at college (not much of a football fan) asked me "That's it, right? They did it?" I said, "Nothing's over, yet" like some kind of cynical Rocky Balboa. I partially expected the improbable, unprecedented kickoff coverage collapse. The Bills had broken my heart before any girls really got to it back in 7th grade. They'd continued to build me up and let me down throughout my teenage years (like exactly years 10-20). I don't understand how peers of similar age walked away without incredible damage. I’m 56 years old and witnessed the 4 losses. Hopefully this doesn’t come off as rude, but the Bills didn’t build you up. You did that. I understand as a young kid, but we should all grow up and mature as we age. That means realizing you have no control over what they do. It feels good to watch winning football, knowing we have a top team that has as good of a chance as any team to win the SB. After 2 decades of crap, this is fun. For those who claim I have a “loser’s “ mentality, save it. I’m not playing and have no control over the outcome. It’s not me who wins or loses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Going to four straight was amazing. Losing all of them was not amazing. Yes and yes. 8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Skipped ahead from bottom of page 1 to last page...I'm hoping more posters have since explained that while the experience of living through 4 consecutive SB runs (I was in grades 7-10) was amazing, the end result was trauma and fatigue, especially when the historically relevant, but ultimately futile, era was eventually terminally punctuated by Trace Armstrong in the 1998-99 wildcard game, and finished off by Frank Wycheck and Kevin Dyson in the wildcard round the following season. A legacy of devastating collapse. After Rob Johnson successfully led them down the field to kick the go-ahead FG, and my best friend at college (not much of a football fan) asked me "That's it, right? They did it?" I said, "Nothing's over, yet" like some kind of cynical Rocky Balboa. I partially expected the improbable, unprecedented kickoff coverage collapse. The Bills had broken my heart before any girls really got to it back in 7th grade. They'd continued to build me up and let me down throughout my teenage years (like exactly years 10-20). I don't understand how peers of similar age walked away without incredible damage. If football is giving you trauma, I think you need greater perspective in your life. It is possible to care too much about sports. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said: Teams that party the night before the big dance do not deserve to win Super Bowls. Do you think they were dumb enough to do that for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th SBs? Or do you think they learned their lesson in 1991 down in Tampa? If they were doing that crap in later games, screw them! And you know, I seem to recall stories/rumors of some of them (Kelly) being out on the town in Minneapolis the night before the Redskins tore us a new one. So yeah, maybe there were that stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Yes & No. Sure on Super Bowl Sunday it sucked when the last second ticked off the clock and the Bills had again lost the Super Bowl. But from early September to the end of January those 4 years were magical. Winning a lot of games, winning the Division, winning EVERY playoff game in every manner from historic blowouts to the greatest playoff come back in history, and winning 4 straight AFC championships. And even after that last SB loss it seemed to me like no one would ever match what the Bills accomplished. And over time this has been proven to be true. Fifty years from now they'll still be waiting to see a team match the Bills and go to FOUR straight Super Bowl games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, nucci said: The question is , do you consider 4 straight Superbowls losses to be bad. It's a simple yes or no. Nothing to do with getting there, nothing against how great those teams were, just a simple question. No one is downplaying how great a time and how exciting it was. No Nucci, because of what I said in the post. The question is infantile without an explanation. What is it a poll question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 what I remember most about the super bowl losses were the emotional and a couple times liquor induced Hangovers from dashed hopes. Those totally sucked so I voted Bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 no matter what we all voted in this poll we all still are here total diehard Bills fans. The fellowship is priceless and that is not only not bad it is BADASS 4 AFC Championships in a row is GOOD. It is easier to look at it the other way for a lot of people I get it. but the non fans can shut their traps as far as Im concerned. Those teams were damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 10:51 AM, Limeaid said: Some would never want to be a bat unless they get home AND THEN they would complain and say opposition was weak. I hear ya there haha. For this analogy let’s pretend this is a virgin man (Bills no superbowls). Not getting home still makes this hypothetical man a virgin no matter how many times he got to third base. Getting to the Super Bowl is third base in this analogy to be clear. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, 90sBills said: I hear ya there haha. For this analogy let’s pretend this is a virgin man (Bills no superbowls). Not getting home still makes this hypothetical man a virgin no matter how many times he got to third base. Getting to the Super Bowl is third base in this analogy to be clear. The Zebras are her parents catching in back seat of your car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: The Zebras are her parents catching in back seat of your car. Your triggering my ptsd. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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