ngbills Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Just now, Ya Digg? said: Dude what are you talking about?? How is your first thought about this a race thing? Diggs has issue with things. McD and Beane are rewarded. Could be related could be not. We knows maybe Diggs went as far as saying the team needs a change in leadership and this is the message no it does not. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Failed to meet whose expectations? The fans buoyed by excessive positive press the last two years? It’s not about failing to reach expectations. It’s about HOW they failed which falls on McDermott. I still believe McDermott’s seat gets hotter if the Bills get blown out again in the playoffs as opposed to missing the wildcard cut at 10-7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) So turning a franchise of lovable losers into true SB contenders for three years straight and counting is worth more than the opinions of fans on TBD? Blasphemy. Edited June 23, 2023 by stevestojan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Both Ryan Grigson and Jon Robinson were fired the same season they signed massive extensions. This means nothing as to whether or not either of McBeane are here come April 2024. The league has over $800M of dead salary on the books for fired coaches and execs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I'm surprised that the board hasn't been Rosen'd with this news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, Big Turk said: There go the people who thought they were on the hot seat which I found laughable. I didn't think they were on the ho seat. I also wouldn't extend them, not yet anyway. Most of these guys been watching football since birth. How long have you been in country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, ngbills said: This is going to be an unpopular take. But the timing is interesting. Could it be a message from ownership to the players, especially the black players. The GM and coach are my guys, you are a player aka the staff and need to know your place. Diggs speaking up and challenging the coach and GM stirred the pot. So Pegula needs to show that he stands with them. Who knows maybe some of the character guys talk bothers players. It can be viewed as a certain way to some of the black players. It was interesting in the comments around this extension, specifically calling out being a good Christian, etc. Sure buddy. Got any more fan fiction for us? By the way, these extensions have been done for a while. They were just announced today. So your timing argument is just as invalid as the rest of these scribblings. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 54 minutes ago, Einstein said: But, why? Didn't they have several years of contract left? Was thru 2025 Strange to extend now. Guessing that Pegs for emotional and wanted them to christen the new stadium. Let's hope that faith was well placed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Can’t wait for the Gabe Davis extension next. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: It's excusable when you got 3 SB's and 2 wins there Is it excusable when you are 1-4 between 2015 and 2018 after not getting it done in Philly? I love the argument that Reid needed a QB during those years, but McDermott would "do nothing" without Allen 😂 Edited June 23, 2023 by What a Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said: This might ruffle a few feathers in here lol. Congrats to the both of them. 57 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: They deserve it. 56 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Some Heads around here are exploding as we type, 😂 K extensions, especially with Pegula, do NOT mean they will be employed through the term of the new deal. It just means they were extended. If Pegula decides one or both have to go before end of term, they'll be gone and he'll eat the K. He did precisely that with Sabres long time GM Darcy Regier. Got a big multi-year extension a matter of months before he was fired. This is basically meaningless information if you are trying to speculate about the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Just now, PBF81 said: Was thru 2025 Strange to extend now. Guessing that Pegs for emotional and wanted them to christen the new stadium. Let's hope that faith was well placed. Wouldn’t be surprised if Pegula offered them raises out of the blue because of all the bad media. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Failed to meet whose expectations? The fans buoyed by excessive positive press the last two years? Exactly. As the owners have stated, their expectations, for both the Bills and Sabres, are sustainable success with an opportunity to win championships. Beane and McDermott have done that. Adams and Granato are building the same way. They want to win championships, but I think it is highly unlikely that Terry Pegula abandons the goal of sustainable success based on whim, or short term disappointment, or certainly fan expectations. Their time will come. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, Process said: When were there contracts up anyone know? Thru 2025 otherwise, three more seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Wouldn’t be surprised if Pegula offered them raises out of the blue because of all the bad media. wrong again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Wouldn’t be surprised if Pegula offered them raises out of the blue because of all the bad media. This was the first thing I was thinking also. What better way to get people to stop making claims about rifts between the players and coaches than extending them. I have no problem with the extension because they have done well enough to deserve it and it doesn't mean that thinks can't change later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 52 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They don’t underperform. That’s the thing. At least not consistently. They are 1 of 2 teams to win a playoff game each of the last 3 years. Two wild-card games and a Divisional game? With Allen? I certainly hope that fan expectations going forward are higher than that. Just sayin'' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I read a report that states McD and Beane were secretly conspiring to walk out on the team if they weren’t given an extension. They voiced their concerns with resignation papers in hand. Terry folded to the pressure and here we are. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, ngbills said: Diggs has issue with things. McD and Beane are rewarded. Could be related could be not. We knows maybe Diggs went as far as saying the team needs a change in leadership and this is the message no it does not. Methinks he had more of an issue with McD, and he probably got a phone call from McD, Beane, and TP after all the bad press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, ngbills said: This is going to be an unpopular take. But the timing is interesting. Could it be a message from ownership to the players, especially the black players. The GM and coach are my guys, you are a player aka the staff and need to know your place. Diggs speaking up and challenging the coach and GM stirred the pot. So Pegula needs to show that he stands with them. Who knows maybe some of the character guys talk bothers players. It can be viewed as a certain way to some of the black players. It was interesting in the comments around this extension, specifically calling out being a good Christian, etc. good lord 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 34 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: You don't extend someone that is on a "prove it" year as soooooo many people claimed. Wtf you were bashing me saying prove it on the field in the other thread. What are ya a Gemini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Thru 2025 otherwise, three more seasons. Extending them seems unnecessary if that's the case. Letting the next three seasons just play out would make sense. But it's whatever. It's not like an extension prevents them from being let go, if it comes to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 45 minutes ago, Gregg said: They have changed the culture of the organization. Of course, Allen is a big part of that. Three straight division titles, 5 playoff appearances in 6 years so it's no surprise Pegula extended them. They need to get over the hump in the playoffs as these playoff disappointments are getting old. Agreed, three wild-card round wins and one Divisional win, 0-fer on the road ain't cutting it with Allen. Some seem to be quite content with that however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, ngbills said: This is going to be an unpopular take. I agree with you on this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) The timing of this feels more like a PR move than anything else. A contract extension for the coach and GM means nothing, Pegula could still fire them tomorrow if he really wanted to. There's been a lot of media pressure on the Bills in recent weeks, mostly the Bills' own doing - their handling of the Stefon Diggs situation was a major PR blunder. Extending McDermott and Beane now feels like a way to let everybody in the building know nothing has changed and there is no added pressure. And that's fine. I don't think McDermott and Beane are really on the hot seat with Pegula. But if the season is a disaster this extension isn't going to be the thing that stops him from making changes. Edited June 23, 2023 by HappyDays 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 The only reason I can think they wanted to extend through 2027 is because of the new stadium. I doubt Terry wants a new staff at the new stadium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: good lord Yup, what some folk come up with, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: wrong again. Does this mean that this wasn’t meant to send a message to all the black players @ngbills? 🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: Wtf you were bashing me saying prove it on the field in the other thread. What are ya a Gemini. The quotes were literally quoting you, the people who say that. Otherwise I would not have put it in quotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Just now, Don Otreply said: Yup, what some folk come up with, Some of these posters may not ever recover 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: Agreed, three wild-card round wins and one Divisional win, 0-fer on the road ain't cutting it with Allen. Some seem to be quite content with that however. I agree with you. These playoff losses are frustrating. I was really mad after 13 seconds, but Terry is the one who calls the shots. He obviously feels they can do the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, QB Bills said: What a joke. This clown literally stole a potential super bowl from the team with that epic choke job in KC a couple of years ago and people still bow at his feet. He should have been fired on the spot right then and there. The drought really has scarred many of you from dreaming big. We lucked into the most naturally gifted QB in the league. The bare minimum should be a playoff spot. Clapmaster 2000 is the weakest link on this team. I had wished ownership could have seen this even if the pompom waving crowd couldn't. Well, let's see how it all plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: wrong again. Lol again? What’s my success rate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 It's funny. So many folks thought it was Super Bowl or Bust for McD. Apparently, Terry didn't see it that way. I'm personally happy. After 17 years of hopelessness, we finally have a legitimate shot at the Lombardi with these two. You can't win the dance competition without a ticket to the dance. These guys give us tickets. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, ngbills said: This is going to be an unpopular take. But the timing is interesting. Could it be a message from ownership to the players, especially the black players. The GM and coach are my guys, you are a player aka the staff and need to know your place. Diggs speaking up and challenging the coach and GM stirred the pot. So Pegula needs to show that he stands with them. Who knows maybe some of the character guys talk bothers players. It can be viewed as a certain way to some of the black players. It was interesting in the comments around this extension, specifically calling out being a good Christian, etc. this is sick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: The only reason I can think they wanted to extend through 2027 is because of the new stadium. I doubt Terry wants a new staff at the new stadium lmao the random rationalization because it cant be they are happy with McDermott and Beane's progress of putting us in the position to finally win it all. Its gotta be x y z instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, zow2 said: Excellent, McDungy wants to coach in that new stadium. McDungy...I can dig it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Once again here we have proof that NFL owners may be super rich, but most of them are as dumb as a rock. This move was NOT needed, and really is mind boggling. There's absolutely no good reason to do this. Reminds me of the big contract given to Fitzpatrick years ago, mid season, after the Bills got off to a good start (5-1, I think). What happened for the rest of the year though? LOL 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, ngbills said: This is going to be an unpopular take. But the timing is interesting. Could it be a message from ownership to the players, especially the black players. The GM and coach are my guys, you are a player aka the staff and need to know your place. Diggs speaking up and challenging the coach and GM stirred the pot. So Pegula needs to show that he stands with them. Who knows maybe some of the character guys talk bothers players. It can be viewed as a certain way to some of the black players. It was interesting in the comments around this extension, specifically calling out being a good Christian, etc. this is crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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