\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 7:57 PM, Beck Water said: Should Dion look like this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, you feel that he's getting fatter year by year, despite the fact that nobody else has him making linear progression in any direction. Fits your narrative, so you love it. It doesn't fit reality very well, but hey, if something has to go, let it be the facts. What has really happened with him is he's gone up and down. But worse each year is pretty much you alone. Relatively bad last year? Probably fair enough, particularly at the beginning of the year. In reality, his weight has gone up and down, and his play has been mostly up but has regressed a couple of times significantly. Hasn't been a linear progression in either direction. But hey, if it works for you, don't let sense stand in the way. Kidding yourself that you know the future, I mean, it makes you look silly, but if you feel comfortable in that role, go for it. Oh, and are Josh and Knox 300+ pounders? OLs? Sorry, man, that's just a dumb comparison. True enough that not all linemen have weight problems, but an awful lot do, partially due to the way they have to force themselves to eat to stay at a weight high enough to not get pushed out of the way. And plenty of those guys who do have concerns have long and very productive careers. Some don't. Some eat themselves out of the league in Fridge-like fashion. That's why it's something to watch. Plenty do just fine. But comparing linemen to skill position guys who weigh like 70 to 80 pounds less shows more about you not quite getting this than it does about the relationship linemen have with body weight. And yeah, not great. Fair enough. Nobody's arguing that he's great, certainly not me. Top ten or twelve generally, sometimes a bit better and for a couple of periods significantly worse for a relatively short but real and concerning time. But generally, top ten or twelve. Which means most of the league would love to have him. Yeah. I think the majority of this thread so far has been that he looks fat and out of shape. So I’ll just continue to be on the end that thinks he’s going in the wrong direction. And until he proves it to be incorrect, and actually show up in shape and looks like he’s taking his physical fitness serious, I guess I’ll be right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 hours ago, mrags said: Whatever you believe and tell yourself I guess. I’ll just continue to watch him get fatter and fatter every year and worse and worse every year and won’t make excuses like “it’s only the start of OTAs”. Josh didn’t come in looking fat or out of shape. Knox didn’t come in looking fat and out of shape. The list could go on and on. I’ll just accept that he’s not bad at his job but he’s not particularly great either. He COULD improve but doesn’t seem like he’s taking the right steps in the off-season to ensure that happens. You know, like how guys like Josh workout all off-season to better himself. How guys like even Tua go to some kind of camp/program to better themselves in some way in the off-season. Dions version of that must be hitting up the McDonald’s drive thru. And that’s fine if youre just some guy on the team. But he walks around like he’s a leader on the team, and he should be trying to better himself. Me personally, I don’t see that happening from him. At best he’s been consistently OK. Which tells me even if he’s not regressing, he’s not progressing either. It's crazy how you commend Tua for taking Judo but Dion Dawkins boxes and it doesn't count. Boxing=McDonald's I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Most overrated player on the team. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, mrags said: Yeah. I think the majority of this thread so far has been that he looks fat and out of shape. So I’ll just continue to be on the end that thinks he’s going in the wrong direction. And until he proves it to be incorrect, and actually show up in shape and looks like he’s taking his physical fitness serious, I guess I’ll be right. Yeah, you will continue to be on that end. It fits your narrative. You're trying to use the fact that he looks fat and out of shape now and pretend that that shows that he's getting fatter and worse every year. Makes absolutely zero sense. But again, don't let sense hold you back. And don't let the fact that you're about alone way way way out on the fringes bother you either. Does the picture show there's still something there to keep an eye on? Yeah. Does it show what you think it does? Um, no. Edited May 25, 2023 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, you will continue to be on that end. It fits your narrative. You're trying to use the fact that he looks fat and out of shape now and pretend that that shows that he's getting fatter and worse every year. Makes absolutely zero sense. But again, don't let sense hold you back. And don't let the fact that you're about alone way way way out on the fringes bother you either. Does the picture show there's still something there to keep an eye on? Yeah. Does it show what you think it does? Um, no. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 hours ago, BillsVet said: Makes me laugh reading this thread making excuses for the, ahem, "expanding" Dawkins. Years ago, hand-wringing Bills fans ripped Jason Peters for showing up to camp out of football shape after a contentious holdout. Now, a guy like Dawkins who is protecting Allen's blind side shows up doing his imitation of the Stay-Puft Marsmallow Man and it's no big deal. After all, he's under contract and available for OTA's. Makes me wonder what the reaction will be when he gives up a big hit on JA because those extra 25 pounds inhibited his mobility to mirror rushers. You act like he doesn’t have 4 months + TC to get into shape…. he won’t be that big in September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I think he had long Covid. And if so that affects a lot of his physical activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 11 hours ago, BUFFALOTONE said: I agree, not sure what Buffalo 716 was getting at but that point was lost on me. Dion protects Josh's blindside, should we wait for him to get into shape in November or run the risk of Josh getting crushed in September cause he was too fat and out of shape. What are you suggesting the FO guys do? At this point of the offseason, it is easier for coaches to talk to him and "encourage" him to get to a reasonable playing weight by end-August, than to go looking for alternatives (at LT!!) on the scrap heap. If you were making some other point, please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I welcome this thread over 60 pages about a punter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: You act like he doesn’t have 4 months + TC to get into shape…. he won’t be that big in September It looks like he is getting into shape...to challenge for a Sumo championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, BillsVet said: It looks like he is getting into shape...to challenge for a Sumo championship. Some of those sumo wrestlers are quite mobile. I often wonder why we don’t get more of them into jerseys. I guess my whole problem with this is just the optics. There was a video of Dion for the off-season that show that he was very into a boxing workout. His physique does not match what he says that he does in the off-season. I don’t want him showing up to 190 pounds or whatever but every year he appears to get a little more wide he looks like a guard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Leave it to this board to blow a picture with a bad angle way out of proportion to a 9 page thread. It’s not even June yet. Get a grip 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 lol Ravens fans did this w Lamar Jackson last season too and there was literally nothing to it not a story 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 8:57 PM, Beck Water said: I get it maybe Spencer Brown is a bit skinny for an OT but Dang! Do you think the Bills want Dawkins to look like this? He seems a bit....rotund To many dairy Queen blizzards for the schnowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 7:17 PM, mrags said: And he’s gotten fatter each and every season Except that season when he came in too skinny after COVID. This is what OTAs and training camp are for. I suspect he'll be in good LT shape by the second weekend in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 21 hours ago, BillsVet said: Makes me laugh reading this thread making excuses for the, ahem, "expanding" Dawkins. Years ago, hand-wringing Bills fans ripped Jason Peters for showing up to camp out of football shape after a contentious holdout. Now, a guy like Dawkins who is protecting Allen's blind side shows up doing his imitation of the Stay-Puft Marsmallow Man and it's no big deal. After all, he's under contract and available for OTA's. Makes me wonder what the reaction will be when he gives up a big hit on JA because those extra 25 pounds inhibited his mobility to mirror rushers. I thought of something that could never ever hurt me It’s the state puff marshmallow man 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Except that season when he came in too skinny after COVID. This is what OTAs and training camp are for. I suspect he'll be in good LT shape by the second weekend in September. Wish one one hand and crap in another. Tell me which one happens first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 16 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: What are you suggesting the FO guys do? At this point of the offseason, it is easier for coaches to talk to him and "encourage" him to get to a reasonable playing weight by end-August, than to go looking for alternatives (at LT!!) on the scrap heap. If you were making some other point, please elaborate. My point in counter to his was you're a professional athlete getting paid very well for maintaining your level of fitness and ability. Dion (imo) has regressed since getting his deal done. Could be a few factors but being out of shape and having to continually catch up to be in playing shape is a sign of a bad pro. It is also a concern that he protects your best asset, I never said cast him aside for another LT. Maybe the Bills have said something to him that we aren't privy to. I will give him credit, last years Miami away game he played every snap and held in there. That is brutal for a guy in that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, BUFFALOTONE said: My point in counter to his was you're a professional athlete getting paid very well for maintaining your level of fitness and ability. Dion (imo) has regressed since getting his deal done. Could be a few factors but being out of shape and having to continually catch up to be in playing shape is a sign of a bad pro. It is also a concern that he protects your best asset, I never said cast him aside for another LT. Maybe the Bills have said something to him that we aren't privy to. I will give him credit, last years Miami away game he played every snap and held in there. That is brutal for a guy in that role. Hey, they're called optional OTAs, and Dion decided to come even though he'd be showing off his bad offseason body. He doesn't have a history of being a Marcel Dareus or Kelvin Benjamin. Again, it's May, and I have no reason to doubt he'll be in good football shape in 100 days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Hey, they're called optional OTAs, and Dion decided to come even though he'd be showing off his bad offseason body. He doesn't have a history of being a Marcel Dareus or Kelvin Benjamin. Again, it's May, and I have no reason to doubt he'll be in good football shape in 100 days. Voice of reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I thought of something that could never ever hurt me It’s the STAY PUFT marshmallow man FIFY Great movie. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 O linemen are fatties. I would bet Dawkins isn’t in prime shape though. I heard he’s a good guy but he’s really in love with the life of being a “baller.” Plus, those cornhole circuits pack on lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybills Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 7:57 PM, Beck Water said: I get it maybe Spencer Brown is a bit skinny for an OT but Dang! Do you think the Bills want Dawkins to look like this? He seems a bit....rotund I've always thought he was dumpy as f*ck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 The camera adds 10 lbs… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Dion can look however Dion wants to look IMO. AS LONG AS HE CAN PLAY AT A HIGH LEVEL. There’s plenty of guys that look like they were carved out of granite and end up washing out of the league early in their career because They. Can’t. Play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Maybe he had an successful offseason bulk and now he will start a preseason cut... I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Is the photo altered to be funny? What a lard ass. Remember when OLmen in the league were lean, mean, super strong, and athletic? And they could actually pull and run? These guys are so bloated up now to get over 300...it's a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just a reminder that it has been 3 weeks and Dion is still fat. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=802456134574073&set=pcb.802457531240600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 3:15 PM, jaybills said: I've always thought he was dumpy as f*ck. I think "dumpy" is a good word for it. To me, he's always appeared awkwardly top-heavy. If adding weight is intentional to somehow get this guy back on track then I'm for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 He was with UFC fighter Jorge Masvidal in a few videos in April, and looked then in his usual shape. It's like he gained some flabby mass since. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 8:57 PM, Beck Water said: I get it maybe Spencer Brown is a bit skinny for an OT but Dang! Do you think the Bills want Dawkins to look like this? He seems a bit....rotund just angles and lighting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Mango said: Just a reminder that it has been 3 weeks and Dion is still fat. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=802456134574073&set=pcb.802457531240600 Just another reminder of why I never want to be famous. 😋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 12:14 PM, mrags said: Wish one one hand and crap in another. Tell me which one happens first Wait, mrags is actually...Darryl Talley? Has anyone seen them both in the same place at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 On 5/28/2023 at 10:42 AM, Nextmanup said: Is the photo altered to be funny? What a lard ass. Remember when OLmen in the league were lean, mean, super strong, and athletic? And they could actually pull and run? These guys are so bloated up now to get over 300...it's a joke. Uh, well, no not really. Sure there's some but I think o line in the NFL has mostly always been made up of lard. However Dion is not a superstar. But he gets his job done. As someone pointed out a few posts ago he made it through the Miami game playing every snap and unlike a lot of our lean mean players at various positions that couldn't. Dion will be Dion. Fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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