khlax3 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Bills won’t draft an olineman on Day 1 or 2 of the draft and they may not draft any they will roster 9 and I think they are perfectly fine going into the season with Dawkins, McGovern, Morse, bates, brown, edwards, Doyle, Quesenberry, and Ike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 You guys are forgetting your BPA again Happens every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Once the playoffs starts, at least 95% of offensive plays need to be an Allen throw or an Allen run. You will win a Super Bowl because of Josh Allen. Use him now before his legs are less of a factor. Save him in the regular season but cut him loose in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: I agree with everything here except the part about needing a dome. There are no domes in the NFL, only stadia with roofs. everybody should know what people say when the say dome. E-V-E-R-Y-B-O-D-Y don't get caught up in semantics. 🙄 ex: technically SoFi is not a dome or a roof. It's an open air canopy. stadia w roofs??...lol..you mean fixed roof or retractable roof or spinning sphincter iris type like ATL. 6 minutes ago, HOUSE said: You guys are forgetting your BPA again Happens every year no team drafts BPA.(it's all lies) All teams draft BPA in the position of need they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 1. Spencer Brown might still prove to be a decent starter if his back is healthy. 2. That there is a big difference in quality of player you can expect when you are drafting late in every round vs early. Not all picks in a given round are equal. 2a. Disagree that only bad GMs don’t find Pro Bowl players in round 1 or fail on occasion to find starters in 2nd and 3rd rounds. 3. Devin Singletary was a good(not great) player here. 4. While Gabe Davis didn’t play well last year, there is a chance that it was partially because of a lingering ankle injury- he might or might not play better next year. 5. Tremaine Edmunds was very underrated by some here. Edited March 25, 2023 by OldTimer1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 3 hours ago, wppete said: McDermott and Beane are way overrated. Judging by what I read around here, that doesn't qualify as an "unpopular opinion" 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, PBF81 said: Yeah, sorry, I meant Crowder. My bad. Make the swap, point remains. Don't leapfrog it. We can do this same exercise for many positions. Addison & Murphy. Who knows WTH they were doing at DT. Beasley wasn't that washed, and they kicked him to the curb regardless. They could have negotiated him down at some point, they didn't even try until it became absurdly desperate. And funny how "Beasley's washed" but so many want OBJ. LOL Anyway, we'll see how Harty does. I'm not holding my breath that he'll move the needle. Beas was washed. 100%. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 IronMaidenBills has been completely rational during this DH waiting process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, khlax3 said: Bills won’t draft an olineman on Day 1 or 2 of the draft and they may not draft any they will roster 9 and I think they are perfectly fine going into the season with Dawkins, McGovern, Morse, bates, brown, edwards, Doyle, Quesenberry, and Ike I think this too. And it is unpopular even with me haha. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: I think this too. And it is unpopular even with me haha. I agree with that. It's entirely plausible that is how this regime thinks adequately protecting the franchise qb looks like. Now they can draft DT and LB early and maybe S in the third. I suppose that will qualify as my unpopular take. 4 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: IronMaidenBills has been completely rational during this DH waiting process. Still think he's over the top, but he's more rational than many of his critics believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I agree with that. It's entirely plausible that is how this regime thinks adequately protecting the franchise qb looks like. Now they can draft DT and LB early and maybe S in the third. I suppose that will qualify as my unpopular take. Still think he's over the top, but he's more rational than many of his critics believe. He's had a rough 24 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 We will fail to make it to the Super Bowl again this year. The roster just isn't good enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, inaugural balls said: He's had a rough 24 hours I admire a fella who sticks to his guns against all the incoming flak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Patrick Mahomes is in a tier above Josh Allen at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 1. Beane and McDermott would both have been fired if Browns or Jets take Allen. Allen has saved their jobs and they have in turn cost us at least one Championship 2. Allen played poorly last year. Multiple red zone turnovers. Failed to take what defense was giving him most of the year. Maybe it was the elbow but he was playing like garbage in the Jets game before the injury. He has to be more conservative and less careless with the football this year. 3. Knox is an elite TE held back by two OCs that have not featured him enough. Knox can easily get 75 catches, 900 yards, and 7 TD if used properly. Best TE in franchise history. Edited March 25, 2023 by Ethan in Cleveland 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Brandon Beane knows what he’s doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Beas was washed. 100%. OK, so back to my original point that you didn't like, go ahead them and name the slot WRs brought on by Beane then which we're good, which was the point. Since Beasley apparently was the worst, which were better? Don't go off on a tangent about Beasley. I'm all ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I admire a fella who sticks to his guns against all the incoming flak. Oh he stuck to his guns alright. over and over and over and over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Oh he stuck to his guns alright. over and over and over and over again I know it's tiresome, but unlike a troll who is persistent in malice, he is operating out of conviction and desire for his team to win a SB. I just don't get as annoyed when that is the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 hours ago, SCBills said: DL is a bigger need than MLB. Tackle or End? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Tackle or End? All that investment in DL and this is still a legitimate question. I think they are looking at DT. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Tackle or End? End. Id prefer the DT room get shaken up by trading Oliver, signing a stop gap and drafting a DT on Day 2, but I have no idea what the FO may do there. There are plenty of DE2 types still available, and I think we need one so we don’t have to rush Von back … and when he does come back, we have a legit group with Von - Rousseau - FA - Epenesa - Basham demoted to DE5 and has to earn being active Gameday once Von is back. Edited March 25, 2023 by SCBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 I guess I should add this here.😁 Hopkins is NOT worth a 2nd, 3rd and cap space. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 There should be one NFL game in the Spring. It should be on March 17. All 32 teams play. On alternate years, 'your' team wears a full green uniform, including helmet. Mark Kelso returns in 'green' years, and uniform says 'GAZOO'. * Unpopular enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: What if they are proven incorrect? Hayden Hurst the tight end? It's true that Andy Reid for many years wore the label of "not being able to win the big one." I am hopeful that McDermott continues to grow. Josh's decision making last year did regress and I put a lot of that on Dorsey. Part of the OCs job is to set clear parameters for play and reign in hero ball tendencies. Daboll did this better than Dorsey, IMO. Opinions aren’t fact. They fill the void of the absence of fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 McDermott & Beane are the people we need to lead the Bills to a championship. Spencer Brown is not a problem. Dawson Knox isn't a hall of fame player, but he's a good Tight End. Josh Allen is not regressing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, PBF81 said: OK, so back to my original point that you didn't like, go ahead them and name the slot WRs brought on by Beane then which we're good, which was the point. Since Beasley apparently was the worst, which were better? Don't go off on a tangent about Beasley. I'm all ears. No the point isn't necessarily invalid. But Beas had 35 yards in 4 games with Brady and Allen in 2022 after his production significantly droppef off down the stretch in 2021. The "we haven't found the answer at slot yet" part of your post was correct. While we are on Harty...been watching some of his tape the last couple of days. Surprised how much he played outside for the Saints actually in 2021. That might have been necessity given their paucity of options, but he had some nice plays as a true wideout. I wonder now if that is part of the attraction for Beane? McKenzie was "slot only" and despite them trying to tell us otherwise in camp last summer by the end of the season they seem to have accepted that Khalil Shakir is slot only too. Harty and the fella from the Dolphins at least bring some in-out flexibility, whereas last year it was Diggs and Davis and then Kumerow was the only other option outside. Which is not me saying the Bills have enough at receiver btw - they don't. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Bills need to get younger not older. In other words, no old expensive WRs or RBs like Zeke, OBJ or Hopkins 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Unpopular NFL take I would eliminate all Preseason games. COVID year showed they are completely unnecessary. College has no preseason . Yes many teams play cupcakes for their first game but even some of the top teams have big time games as the season opener. I would compromise to 1 Preseason game and I would not play a single starter. And if I was a top player, I would refuse to play in any preseason game. I would even negotiate that into my contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 In deference to my esteemed colleague Mike in Horseheads: 1. New stadium will have natural grass. 2. New stadium will have natural groundskeepers: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Gabe Davis is a legit #2, and he is going to tear it up this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 The Inability to adapt the defensive scheme to accommodate both injury or a team that knows how to beat our defensive scheme will continue to be a problem, primarily in the post season. Josh Allen needs to use the short pass more effectively, and actually hand of the ball to the RBs instead of running it himself so frequently. Beane and McDermott need to invest in high quality O-lineman every offseason, (like that’s ever going to happen) 😂 Dorsey needs to utilize his available personnel better and sequence his play calling, so that each play that is run helps the next play called. Oh, and special teams is the red headed step child of all NFL teams, 😂 GO BILLS!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, skibum said: Gabe Davis is a legit #2, and he is going to tear it up this year. No repeats! 🤨 * 😉😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: The Bills ruined their season by not trading for McCaffrey and Hockenson I think you meant Von Miller in 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: 4. While Gabe Davis didn’t play well last year, I'm now on a crusade about this. I think many people have this perception that Davis is a problem, and I don't see it. At least, not so big a problem that people should be so excited about. Just seems to me that it would NICE to have top-of-the-league production from the #2, but it isn't necessary for the team to succeed. Yes, the Davis wasn't as consistent making plays last season, but he was still a nice play-maker in the offense. Yes, it's fair to expect some improvement in his production, and I'm sure it's his expectation, too, but he is nowhere near a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 35 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No the point isn't necessarily invalid. But Beas had 35 yards in 4 games with Brady and Allen in 2022 after his production significantly droppef off down the stretch in 2021. The "we haven't found the answer at slot yet" part of your post was correct. While we are on Harty...been watching some of his tape the last couple of days. Surprised how much he played outside for the Saints actually in 2021. That might have been necessity given their paucity of options, but he had some nice plays as a true wideout. I wonder now if that is part of the attraction for Beane? McKenzie was "slot only" and despite them trying to tell us otherwise in camp last summer by the end of the season they seem to have accepted that Khalil Shakir is slot only too. Harty and the fella from the Dolphins at least bring some in-out flexibility, whereas last year it was Diggs and Davis and then Kumerow was the only other option outside. Which is not me saying the Bills have enough at receiver btw - they don't. The point wasn't about Beasley, you made it about Beasley. My statement about Beasley was a relative one. If you want to argue that McKenzie and Crowder were better, which is implicitly what you're doing, great, I'll quietly note that. It's a valid opinion although I do believe that the data is still on my side, whether Beasley is washed up or not. Thanks on the second sentence part. My primary point, so we agree there. As to your third part, thanks for sharing that. Unlike many other posters here I didn't watch every game that Harty played in. LOL In fact, I don't recall one, so I'm limited to data and youtube videos, which are typically highlights sans lowlights. We'll see what happens, but for five years now, also part of my original point implicitly, we've been treated to all kinds of statements by the team as to how the WRs that Beane has acquired were going to be the answer. None have other than Diggs, and Diggs has largely come up empty come playoff time, particularly against KC and Cinci despite playing 90% of the offensive snaps. (13 for 119, 0 TDs, 9.2 YPR) Avg. of 4 catches for 40 yards/game. If Harty is that WR, then Beane will have hit on a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) The negativity is more pronounced when the team wins more games. It’s an inverse ratio. Only a 0-17 season will make them happy. Cause then you at least have good draft picks. Edited March 25, 2023 by nedboy7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, PBF81 said: The point wasn't about Beasley, you made it about Beasley. My statement about Beasley was a relative one. If you want to argue that McKenzie and Crowder were better, which is implicitly what you're doing, great, I'll quietly note that. It's a valid opinion although I do believe that the data is still on my side, whether Beasley is washed up or not. Thanks on the second sentence part. My primary point, so we agree there. As to your third part, thanks for sharing that. Unlike many other posters here I didn't watch every game that Harty played in. LOL In fact, I don't recall one, so I'm limited to data and youtube videos, which are typically highlights sans lowlights. We'll see what happens, but for five years now, also part of my original point implicitly, we've been treated to all kinds of statements by the team as to how the WRs that Beane has acquired were going to be the answer. None have other than Diggs, and Diggs has largely come up empty come playoff time, particularly against KC and Cinci despite playing 90% of the offensive snaps. (13 for 119, 0 TDs, 9.2 YPR) Avg. of 4 catches for 40 yards/game. If Harty is that WR, then Beane will have hit on a first. Complicated syntax and thought pattern. I think we're going to have to ask you to leave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I'm now on a crusade about this. I think many people have this perception that Davis is a problem, and I don't see it. At least, not so big a problem that people should be so excited about. Just seems to me that it would NICE to have top-of-the-league production from the #2, but it isn't necessary for the team to succeed. Yes, the Davis wasn't as consistent making plays last season, but he was still a nice play-maker in the offense. Yes, it's fair to expect some improvement in his production, and I'm sure it's his expectation, too, but he is nowhere near a problem. It's amazing to me how many people want to cut ties with him all together. Yes he had a down season but when you look at his overall body of work I still think he can be a solid contributer for our Offense. Problem is after the KC Divisional playoff game(I refuse to refer to that game as"..........") the expectations for him went through the roof. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Should have finished the Cincy game after the Hamlin incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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