MasterStrategist Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: bills seem to have around 22 mill give or take a mill after this…they can always do Dion and get close to 30 mill…since they only need 2.7 mill for their rookie class they honestly could be looking at doing a few things but who knows Agree on the #s and options. We'd have money for a scenario such as: 1. Wagner or David at LB 2. Elemuenor at RT 3. Williams at RB 4. then a depth player That would leave the draft open for WR, TE, S, and IOL (in no particular order). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I don’t think that changes anything with his dead cap hits. It in fact makes them higher, and thus harder to trade. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Seems odd to do with a player who is disowning the Bills to go become member of Jerry Jones flock as some are claiming. Bills are absorbing more of the cost to make him easier to trade? Its doubtful Josh Allen would let that happen IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Figster said: I've been thinking OBJ all along because its something Von Miller wants. Takes care of upgrading 2WR. Helps Josh Allen and now Diggs can also benefit with OBJ on the field. Diggs wants a Championship at all cost. Whatever is in the works, I love what these guys are doing to help the team. the restructure is generally in their benefit, not a selfless team first act 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: Given that he’s the second best player on the team (given that Miller is injured), him remaining on the Bills is a good thing. I don’t disagree, I’m simply pointing out the fact he COULD have easily been traded if they wanted to this year. People see the “dead cap” number on Sportrac and think that’s the cost to trade players and it’s not necessarily the case. In his case it would have been a fortune to cut him, but his signing bonus wasn’t exorbitant and would have made the dead cap hit reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Chaos said: scary thought 17 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Unless this changed his dead cap hits then a trade isn’t even a possibility 16 minutes ago, DCofNC said: No, he was plenty easy to trade before based on his current contract, this makes him all the harder for the Bills to absorb the money to trade him as it accelerates what he would cost on our cap. He’s now here for this year, bar none, no way around it. 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: It in fact makes them higher, and thus harder to trade. 4 minutes ago, Figster said: Its doubtful Josh Allen would let that happen IMO. I was being a straw man to the argument that whole Diggs wants out of Buffalo discussion pointing out how silly it is. Bills would certainly not change his contract this way if he was unhappy being in Buffalo but he still expressed how happy he was offense underperformed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, DCofNC said: No, he was plenty easy to trade before based on his current contract, this makes him all the harder for the Bills to absorb the money to trade him as it accelerates what he would cost on our cap. He’s now here for this year, bar none, no way around it. He wasn't being traded before that, wasn't being traded after it and won't be traded next year or the year after that either. People need to just stop with this nonsense already that they have conjured up in their own mind. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Here’s what I’ve learned: just pay everything in bonus and have infinity salary cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Seems like they are gearing up for something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Here’s what I’ve learned: just pay everything in bonus and have infinity salary cap. this is what the Saints do every offseason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaos said: But but but. I thought he was going to Dallas. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaBu Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 They converted base salary into a bonus, creating another $5.4 million in cap space. Diggs’ cap hits now will be $14.8 million in 2023, $27.8 million in 2024, $27.3 million in 2025, $28.4 million in 2026 and $22.5 million in 2027. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 IN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Big splash is coming. We deserve it, we are one piece on offense from winning a super bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Where have I seen this before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: @Reed83HOF I sure would like to know why you put a thumbs down on this thread... This is nothing but good news. LOL clicked the wrong emoji 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Big splash is coming. We deserve it, we are one piece on offense from winning a super bowl. Hopkins and Jamaal Williams. Then draft Hyatt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Cmon trade for Henry and Hopkins and let’s just go win this thing I'd rather have both Cook's in the RB kitchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 No way!!! First I’m hearing this. I searched everywhere 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawning Frog Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Virgil said: No way!!! First I’m hearing this. I searched everywhere try profootballtalk it is on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Here’s what I’ve learned: just pay everything in bonus and have infinity salary cap. When future years cap keeps going up the way it is - yup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) So 32 million for Von and Josh. 6 million from Milano. 5.4 from Diggs. 1.3 from Hines. 600k from Settle. That's 45.3 saved so far. Last night, it was figured they were at roughly 15 under after the signings they did yesterday and how much over the cap we were to begin with. Diggs restructure would take it up to 20.4 under. But then you have to figure in the signings of Tyrel Dodson (I don't know the figure for him) and the tendering of Dane Jackson (2.7 million). So I don't think the figure of being 22 million under right now being thrown around is correct. Probably closer to 17. Hopefully Tre and Dion do some restructuring as well. They were the first players I thought of as potential candidates for this. Surprised to see neither done yet. Edited March 15, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Big splash is coming. We deserve it, we are one piece on offense from winning a super bowl. How much cap space do they have now? Still need enough to sign their draft picks Does this deserve two separate threads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, Blank Stare said: Seems like they are gearing up for something. Yeah, filling out the roster to get to 53. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Yeah, filling out the roster to get to 53. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 News like this deserves two threads!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said: News like this deserves two threads!!!! this guy gets it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 More proof Diggs isn't going anywhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said: How much cap space do they have now? Still need enough to sign their draft picks Does this deserve two separate threads? Like 20 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: More proof Diggs isn't going anywhere That's exactly what i was thinking. Seeing this actually made me feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Here’s what I’ve learned: just pay everything in bonus and have infinity salary cap. The cap is just accounting. And just a myth. It’s just an accounting myth. Seems clear to me. . Edited March 15, 2023 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Does this remove his dead cap penalty if traded? It likely increases them. Restructure generally means salary to bonus. Cash in hand now for the player accounting later for the cap. What is interesting to me on this one is that Beane has not been afraid to use cash to generate good will / buy in with players in the past. I wonder if this is part of operation mend bridges with Stef. Here is $5m for you to summer well with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: It likely increases them. Restructure generally means salary to bonus. Cash in hand now for the player accounting later for the cap. What is interesting to me on this one is that Beane has not been afraid to use cash to generate good will / buy in with players in the past. I wonder if this is part of operation mend bridges with Stef. Here is $5m for you to summer well with. Payout was probably more like $10M or more to save five off this years cap. Still, Diggs and the club are doing their part to create space to keep the team highly competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Something is coming. Now we just wait for the news….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, TOboy said: Payout was probably more like $10M or more to save five off this years cap. Still, Diggs and the club are doing their part to create space to keep the team highly competitive. Sorry, you are correct. I misread the tweet. It is $5m space created not $5m converted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Something is coming. Now we just wait….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 46 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: So 32 million for Von and Josh. 6 million from Milano. 5.4 from Diggs. 1.3 from Hines. 600k from Settle. That's 45.3 saved so far. Last night, it was figured they were at roughly 15 under after the signings they did yesterday and how much over the cap we were to begin with. Diggs restructure would take it up to 20.4 under. But then you have to figure in the signings of Tyrel Dodson (I don't know the figure for him) and the tendering of Dane Jackson (2.7 million). So I don't think the figure of being 22 million under right now being thrown around is correct. Probably closer to 17. Hopefully Tre and Dion do some restructuring as well. They were the first players I thought of as potential candidates for this. Surprised to see neither done yet. See to me they are the last ones you do. Tre struggled some in 2022 on the back of a serious ACL. I wanna retain flexibility as far as possible there. Dion played poorly down the stretch and we know has started to have some issues maintaining the right weight for tackle. Milano, Allen and (all being well behind the sceneds) Diggs were all more sensible restructures. Von's is more a doubling down on the gamble they took bringing him in at his age. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Would prefer a mid 20 year old OL and a S on day 2.. Love Poyer but he's on the decline, Hyde comes back. But ay if the price is right.. I've been trying to move on from poyer for 2 years...so it's not my preference at all. Just a hunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Does this remove his dead cap penalty if traded? I think if anything it might increase his dead money if traded: when a player is traded or released the original team the player belonged to eats the remaining signing bonus and that's the dead cap. The yearly salary (not signing bonus) is assumed by the new team. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm about 90% sure I'm right (then again I was 90% sure I was right when I got married and now I'm a single dude living in a box in the sky). So this, to me, suggests, Stefon is here for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Do people still think there is an “issue” with Diggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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