Doc Brown Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I still don’t think Poyer is coming back. It will take a big chunk of ego to come back to the Bills on a discount vs another team What if Pegula agreed to pay his state taxes? Is that legal? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Sounds like a “me guy” to me 😉 But everyone else who restructures is a team player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Lavonte ?? Lavonte + OBJ = make my day. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: What if Pegula agreed to pay his state taxes? Is that legal? Not legal. Salary cap circumvention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 25 minutes ago, KzooMike said: It means our owner is very rich, the salary cap isn't very real, and we are going to load up (I hope) You got 1 out of 3 correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, TOboy said: Not legal. Salary cap circumvention. Among other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: What if Pegula agreed to pay his state taxes? Is that legal? In so much as saying, here’s an extra 11%, sure… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 This is Diggs making it easier for the bills to trade him… 🤣🤣🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Plus he has to like and follow the Bills on IG and twitter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Ion what dat meens It means they spread out the cap hit over the length of the contract and freed up money this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Lavonte + OBJ = make my day. Or Hopkins and Lavonte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This one was certainly unexpected. Maybe they figure giving him some $$$ will help the rift Nothing about a supposed "rift". Diggs was getting paid the exact same amount of money over the next 10-12 months. He just collects it now, as supposed to being weekly game checks... To a rich guy like Stefon, that means little...sure he gets the "time value of money" (chance to invest), but let's not turn this into a story about some rumored rift. This is a move to create cap space, plain and simple. If we gave him a raise/more money, I'd buy what you're selling... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I know I should be wishing on Offense, but I want to see CJ Gardner Johnson rocking a Bills uniform next year. If we could get Wagner/David and Gardner Johnson, I feel like the D gets nastier and better, which would be a nice step. Ideal world, we can go into the draft after a WR and OL help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 More restuctures, please to Morse, Taron Johnson, Dion Dawkins, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: If it wasn’t real they would’ve kept Tremaine imho. Tremaine is not an 18 mill a linebacker 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Wizard said: More restuctures, please to Morse, Taron Johnson, Dion Dawkins, etc. Extend DaQuan and trade Oliver 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I know I should be wishing on Offense, but I want to see CJ Gardner Johnson rocking a Bills uniform next year. If we could get Wagner/David and Gardner Johnson, I feel like the D gets nastier and better, which would be a nice step. Ideal world, we can go into the draft after a WR and OL help. I don’t want to spend on defense, but Chauncey Gardner Johnson would be a welcome attitude on this defense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 So about $20M in cap space now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagner Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I still don’t think Poyer is coming back. It will take a big chunk of ego to come back to the Bills on a discount vs another team Hopefully we move on from him. Obviously he has moved on from the Bills! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: So it feels like poyer and someone else. Would prefer a mid 20 year old OL and a S on day 2.. Love Poyer but he's on the decline, Hyde comes back. But ay if the price is right.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: So about $20M in cap space now. Can realistically make that 35-40 million with 1-2 extensions and an Oliver trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Alright, maybe a big move on the horizon. Come on Beane work some magic. Fill some needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, Success said: That got my attention. This one might mean a slightly bigger FA move is coming. I've been thinking OBJ all along because its something Von Miller wants. Takes care of upgrading 2WR. Helps Josh Allen and now Diggs can also benefit with OBJ on the field. Diggs wants a Championship at all cost. Whatever is in the works, I love what these guys are doing to help the team. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 38 minutes ago, Chaos said: Seems odd to do with a player who is disowning the Bills to go become member of Jerry Jones flock as some are claiming. Bills are absorbing more of the cost to make him easier to trade? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Limeaid said: Seems odd to do with a player who is disowning the Bills to go become member of Jerry Jones flock as some are claiming. Bills are absorbing more of the cost to make him easier to trade? scary thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 What is our cap space given what he frees up, and accounting for the signings so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Limeaid said: Seems odd to do with a player who is disowning the Bills to go become member of Jerry Jones flock as some are claiming. Bills are absorbing more of the cost to make him easier to trade? Unless this changed his dead cap hits then a trade isn’t even a possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Seems odd to do with a player who is disowning the Bills to go become member of Jerry Jones flock as some are claiming. Bills are absorbing more of the cost to make him easier to trade? No, he was plenty easy to trade before based on his current contract, this makes him all the harder for the Bills to absorb the money to trade him as it accelerates what he would cost on our cap. He’s now here for this year, bar none, no way around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Restructuring contracts means less money against the cap this year but more money against the cap in future years. Financially, it's no big deal to Terry. It comes out about the same for him either way. But Beane now has more cap space this year at the cost of less cap space over the next five years. So why is he giving up future cap space? Who is he signing - or resigning - this year? Seems like he's after someone and I'm guessing David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Seems odd to do with a player who is disowning the Bills to go become member of Jerry Jones flock as some are claiming. Bills are absorbing more of the cost to make him easier to trade? Well, the Bills are still the ones who decide to trade or not to trade. I would lean towards perhaps what you see in the media doesn't mean as much as you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Seems like he's staying. Looks like we'll just have to win a Super Bowl so he's happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) bills seem to have around 22 mill give or take a mill after this…they can always do a Dion adjustment and get close to 30 mill…since they only need 2.7 mill for their rookie class they honestly could be looking at doing a few things but who knows Edited March 15, 2023 by 78thealltimegreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Unless this changed his dead cap hits then a trade isn’t even a possibility Not true, his dead cap IF CUT, would have been too big to swallow because you have to immediately pay his guaranteed money. However, if traded, we are on the hook for his signing bonus, which was not huge, he could have been traded pretty easily, the guaranteed money would have followed the contract, the new team would have to take it on, which is still very decent for a top WR. Doing this added 5.4M to what we would have to eat on Dead cap in a trade or cut, making it virtually impossible to move on from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, KingBoots8 said: What does this have to do with Diggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Restructuring contracts means less money against the cap this year but more money against the cap in future years. Financially, it's no big deal to Terry. It comes out about the same for him either way. But Beane now has more cap space this year at the cost of less cap space over the next five years. So why is he giving up future cap space? Who is he signing - or resigning - this year? Seems like he's after someone and I'm guessing David. Cap is going up in the future and contracts will come off as well. You can kick the can down the road quite a while, eventually you have to push reset for a year, which is probably around 3 years out when they eat the Miller deal, probably part way with Diggs, and then slap an extension on Allen to reset that situation. You are taking a shot to win in the next two to 3 years right now. The Chefs got a SB win in their cap reset year, if you draft well and have a great QB anything can happen, we are going to need to crush some drafts to make it happen without pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, BillsFan2313 said: What does this have to do with Diggs? Nothing- wrong thread lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 If I’m honest I didn’t see this coming guess terry had a chat with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Big Turk said: It means they spread out the cap hit over the length of the contract and freed up money this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, DCofNC said: No, he was plenty easy to trade before based on his current contract, this makes him all the harder for the Bills to absorb the money to trade him as it accelerates what he would cost on our cap. He’s now here for this year, bar none, no way around it. Given that he’s the second best player on the team (given that Miller is injured), him remaining on the Bills is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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