2023 NFL Combine Results and News

[CookieG]

25 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

Good, big and fast might not be available in the draft this year. Most experts say this years WR class doesn’t have that alpha type receiver we have seen in most recent drafts. That’s why I’m leaning towards a bigger physical type receiver like Mingo. No smurfs.

That's a possibility.  If you're looking to go in that direction, Cedric Tillman of Tenn.  needs to be considered.  He was hurt early last season, needed ankle surgery, but still came back before the season ended.  Over 1000 yards in 2021 with great games against Bama and Georgia in 2021.  6'3" 215 lbs. with great hands and excellent in contested catches. 

 

Get it near him, he'll catch it.

[starrymessenger]

35 minutes ago, CookieG said:

That's a possibility.  If you're looking to go in that direction, Cedric Tillman of Tenn.  needs to be considered.  He was hurt early last season, needed ankle surgery, but still came back before the season ended.  Over 1000 yards in 2021 with great games against Bama and Georgia in 2021.  6'3" 215 lbs. with great hands and excellent in contested catches. 

 

Get it near him, he'll catch it.

Tillman is interesting. It’s possible the Bills just dont think they need another undersized receiver. If so this is one big boy who should be available in later rounds.

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Tillman is interesting. It’s possible the Bills just dont think they need another undersized receiver. If so this is one big boy who should be available in later rounds.

Later rounds is likely rd 2 or a big trade up in rd 3 imo. I could see him being taken before our pick in rd 2.  Or does he turn into Kelvin Harmon 2.0 and drop like a ton of bricks.

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

He had 9 drops last year. Don't think his hands will be any better. Especially with the velocity Josh throws with.

 

His actual hands?  Maybe, maybe not.   He's a more natural receiver than McKenzie though.  McKenzie has bad hands AND is a bad arm/body catcher.    The comp to Tyler Lockett makes some sense but I don't think he's on that level either.

 

Either way,  smurfs in round 1......no thanks.

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, CookieG said:

That's a possibility.  If you're looking to go in that direction, Cedric Tillman of Tenn.  needs to be considered.  He was hurt early last season, needed ankle surgery, but still came back before the season ended.  Over 1000 yards in 2021 with great games against Bama and Georgia in 2021.  6'3" 215 lbs. with great hands and excellent in contested catches. 

 

Get it near him, he'll catch it.

Toss in the NFL bloodlines we like he seems like a fit.

[starrymessenger]

11 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Later rounds is likely rd 2 or a big trade up in rd 3 imo. I could see him being taken before our pick in rd 2.  Or does he turn into Kelvin Harmon 2.0 and drop like a ton of bricks.

Didnt yet see what his 40 time was. if as some have projected hes a 4.5 40, we would have an outside chance in the second. but he could go a few spots before that pick. Reminds me a little of George Pickens who went later second last year. Greg Cosell likes Tillman. He also liked Pickens a lot.

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

I do use many lite products as I am on the heavy side😆. I'd have no problem with him as the pick.

Give me Zay Flowers @ 27 and Demario Douglas in the 5th. Douglas caught every ball (including bad throws) effortlessly. Amazing hands and exact measurable as McKenzie.  Hyatt dropped alot of balls today. 

[HappyDays]

There sure are a lot of small "quicker than fast" WRs in this draft that look to be better fits in the slot for the NFL. Who are the day 1 and 2 guys that project to be possible true #1 outside WRs? Quentin Johnston, Cedric Tillman, who else?

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, balln said:

thats what a lot of ppl on here are saying hes tyreke, nah

princeton boy 6' 3 200 ran a 4.43

Yeah there is no Tyreek this April but there are some very interesting prospects. 

Addison looked a little slow. Flowers & Douglas really popped. I didn't see either of these 2 drop or even bobble a throw.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

2 hours ago, 947 said:

nfl.com draft analyisis lists Zay Flowers' NFL comparison as Travis Benjamin. Yikes...

 

 Their comparison for Diggs was Harry Douglas. Douglas only started a 1/3 of the games he played and Diggs had more tds in 2022 than Douglas did in his 9 year career.😂 Funny thing is Benjamin and Douglas have almost identical career numbers except Benjamin had twice as many tds in his career. 

 

 

 

[gonzo1105]

53 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

There sure are a lot of small "quicker than fast" WRs in this draft that look to be better fits in the slot for the NFL. Who are the day 1 and 2 guys that project to be possible true #1 outside WRs? Quentin Johnston, Cedric Tillman, who else?

There are some guys, just the “better guys “ are the smaller ones. Production wise I love Xavier Hutchinson from Iowa State. A lot will depend on testing but can’t beat his college production 

[SCBills]

Anthony Richardson with an absolutely absurd performance today 

[MrEpsYtown]

Jack Campbell is a monster. A little slower than Tremaine, but just as big with Luke Keuchly’s instincts and crazy explosive numbers and ridiculous agility. This is the guy I want as our new Mike. I don’t know where he gets drafted, but he’s a dude. 
 

This is the actual next Brian Urlacher/Luke Keuchly

[78thealltimegreat]

I see my guy Jalin Hyatt only ran a 4.41 obviously too slow for the 26 teams in front of Buffalo and they should look elsewhere 

[starrymessenger]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Anthony Richardson with an absolutely absurd performance today 

He’s the guy as far as I’m concerned. Josh Allen 2.

[LyndonvilleBill]

6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Jack Campbell is a monster. A little slower than Tremaine, but just as big with Luke Keuchly’s instincts and crazy explosive numbers and ridiculous agility. This is the guy I want as our new Mike. I don’t know where he gets drafted, but he’s a dude. 
 

This is the actual next Brian Urlacher/Luke Keuchly

 

Wouldn't this just chap my a$$... LOL...

 

[LABILLBACKER]

11 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

He’s the guy as far as I’m concerned. Josh Allen 2.

Amazing numbers. Can he throw accurately & read defenses?

[Mr. WEO]

Does Bryce Young's draft spot change now that it's confirmed he's a skinny Kyler Murray?

[BuffaloRebound]

Darnell Washington is a monster.  Id love him or Mayer.    

Edited March 5, 2023 by BuffaloRebound

[78thealltimegreat]

29 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

He’s the guy as far as I’m concerned. Josh Allen 2.

He’s going to have to go where a really good structure is in place and they are patient with him cause unlike Josh who was the team at Wyoming…Richardson played with some decent talent at Florida and he looked brutal at times. I think Carolina or Seattle come to mind 

[starrymessenger]

15 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Amazing numbers. Can he throw accurately & read defenses?

His “accuracy” reminds me of Josh when he first came into the league. When his mechanics are good he is accurate. Like Josh was. I think inconsistent rather than fatally inaccurate. As for as the mental side of things I suspect, like most QBs coming into the league, hes got a ways to go.His physical ability is elite.

18 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Darnell Washington is a monster.  Id love him or Mayer.    

I would love Darnell in the third.

[OldTimer1960]

5 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Yeah. Still slower than  Diggs, McKenzie and Shakir. No thanks, especially not at 27.

Speed, especially 40 time, is not the end all.  Guys can be productive in the NFL running in the 4.5s.  Now, Addison’s time combined with his slight frame is not the best combination.  Yet, he gets open anyway and has good hands.

[wppete]

Hope we end up with one of these TE. The kid out of Cincinnati looks good, maybe a mid round pick?  

[Maine-iac]

15 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Speed, especially 40 time, is not the end all.  Guys can be productive in the NFL running in the 4.5s.  Now, Addison’s time combined with his slight frame is not the best combination.  Yet, he gets open anyway and has good hands.

Kupp ran what a 4.6?  Route running is as more about suddenness understanding defenses and less about top speed.  That's why as old as Beasley is he's probably still better at getting open than McKenzie.

Edited March 5, 2023 by Maine-iac

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Flowers is looking good. 

[LyndonvilleBill]

7 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Kupp ran what a 4.6?  Route running is as more about suddenness understanding defenses and less about top speed.  That's why as old as Beasley is he's probably still better at getting open than McKenzie.

True, but he's also 6'2", 200+lbs and a 3rd rnd pick.

 

McKenzie is better in man, Beasley is better finding open spots in zone And options routes. 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Jack Campbell is a monster. A little slower than Tremaine, but just as big with Luke Keuchly’s instincts and crazy explosive numbers and ridiculous agility. This is the guy I want as our new Mike. I don’t know where he gets drafted, but he’s a dude. 
 

This is the actual next Brian Urlacher/Luke Keuchly

 

Man I am going to talk myself into wanting a MLB at the end of the 1st round. I know a defensive pick would bring criticism. But if Campbell becomes the tone setter on defense that I think he'll be it would be a game changer.

[LyndonvilleBill]

29 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Speed, especially 40 time, is not the end all.  Guys can be productive in the NFL running in the 4.5s.  Now, Addison’s time combined with his slight frame is not the best combination.  Yet, he gets open anyway and has good hands.

It's not. But at his size, I would think his 40 would be better than it was for a supposedly mid 1st rounder. I think we need a bigger outside wr.

[Big Turk]

7 hours ago, Andy1 said:

Tyreek had a 4.29.

 

Similar build, quickness and change of direction.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

True, but he's also 6'2", 200+lbs and a 3rd rnd pick.

 

He also played about 3/4 of the time from the slot.

[Dan in Owego]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Man I am going to talk myself into wanting a MLB at the end of the 1st round. I know a defensive pick would bring criticism. But if Campbell becomes the tone setter on defense that I think he'll be it would be a game changer.

I here you, same for me. I know we need offense and a lot of it, but DAMN this is a real dude. I want him on our team, but am strangely pissed at myself at the same time lol.

[MrEpsYtown]

2 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

 

Wouldn't this just chap my a$$... LOL...

 

it would annoy me if the Pats took him in round 2. I don’t think he gets by the Lions. I think we would have to take him in round 1
 

[Doc]

They need a replacement for Tremaine.  I can see Campbell being the pick.

[BuffaL0L0k0]

On 3/2/2023 at 8:48 AM, KingBoots8 said:

I figured a centralized place for the combine news would probably be a good idea as we start seeing player evaluations begin.

 

Here is a breakdown of the Combine schedule for the remainder of this week:

 

March 2 (3 p.m. to 8 p.m. ET): DL, LB

March 3 (3 p.m. to 8 p.m. ET): DB, PK/ST

March 4 (1 p.m. to 8 p.m. ET): QB, WR, TE

March 5 (1 p.m. to 7 p.m. ET): OL, RB

 

The combine takes place at its usual stomping grounds of Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, and it should hopefully be an exciting week of coverage. Prepare for your early mock drafts to be blown to bits, and may all our picks be future HOF’ers.  

...you got me with the HOFers hook... 😁

[Dan in Owego]

6 minutes ago, BuffaL0L0k0 said:

...you got me with the HOFers hook... 😁

I don't want much maybe just a 1974 Steelers type draft🤩

[section122]

https://twitter.com/nickbaumgardner/status/1632201089289273349?s=46&t=WCK9Qjjqglqbehoc9NnkiA

 

Jsn had elite agility scores and best short shuttle run in 9 years!

Edited March 5, 2023 by section122

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Dan in Owego said:

I here you, same for me. I know we need offense and a lot of it, but DAMN this is a real dude. I want him on our team, but am strangely pissed at myself at the same time lol.

No to defense! Sorry man. The 27th  pick has to be an offensive player. I wouldn't mind if every pick was offensive.

 

I'm going into rhis year with the mindset of giving Allen protection and weapons. Let him cook. 

 

The defense falls where it falls. McD can try to get the best out of what he has. 

 

The organization has to change its mentality and focus. For too long it has concentrated on upgrading the defense. It hasn't worked come playoff time. 

 

[BillsShredder83]

21 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

Yeah, especially questions like “Is your mother a prostitute?”

Lol cmon was this real?

[Dan in Owego]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

No to defense! Sorry man. The 27th  pick has to be an offensive player. I wouldn't mind if every pick was offensive.

 

I'm going into rhis year with the mindset of giving Allen protection and weapons. Let him cook. 

 

The defense falls where it falls. McD can try to get the best out of what he has. 

 

The organization has to change its mentality and focus. For too long it has concentrated on upgrading the defense. It hasn't worked come playoff time. 

 

Trust me i don't disagree. My mind says NO, but the flesh is weak someone help me i'm a sinner.😯

[transplantbillsfan]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

They need a replacement for Tremaine.  I can see Campbell being the pick.

 

Isn't Tremaine still on the team and FA over a week away?

 

Have we heard a bad word out of McBeane about him.

 

Not saying it happens, but I think it's premature to pretend we can't retain Edmunds if we really want to, especially considering his age.

 

Make it a 6 year deal and frontload it with a big signing bonus. Makes the CAP hit this year 7-9 million, which doesn't hurt the team in terms of FA for other positions and keeps a player we drafted and developed, which is a big McBeane philosophy.