You get one player this offseason…who is it?

[machine gun kelly]

On 2/20/2023 at 11:39 AM, Roundybout said:

Totally agree with JSN through the draft. 

 

My free agency choice is Mike Gesicki. Don't think of him as a tight end, think of him as a monster wide receiver for red zone targets. We don't really have a huge 6-foot-5 jump ball guy and I think it would be a big boost in close situations. 

Round, I’ve been banging this drum for a bit once I heard the Fish were letting him walk.  Yes, he’s not a blocker.  We don’t need a blocker, we need a weapon.

 

Grab him for contested catches and we have our 12 personnel.  We have our 21 with Cook and Hines.  We can get our top 11 personnel by drafting a speedy WR in the 1st round, then 2 Guards.

 

Take the first 3 rds. and later maybe a safety.

 

For the love of God no more CB’s, DE’s, or RB’s.

[Solomon Grundy]

58 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

go look at the salary of the RB's of any team that won the super bowl in the last 12 years.. the most was 2 million. You dont win in this league by paying RB's. File is too big so I'll help out

2022- Pacheco-870,000

2021- Cam Akers- 890,000

2020- Fournette- 2M

2019-Damien Willians 1,050,000

2018- Sony Michel- 480,000

2017/16- Blount- 900,000 and 760,000

2015-CJ Anderson- 585,000

2014- Blount- 730,000

2013-Harvin- 2.5M

2012-Ray Rice- 2M

2011- Bradshaw-1.5M

2010-Starks - 320,000

 

You dont win by paying RB's.... an RB is only as good as his OL

Josh Jacobs is not only a RB, he's a playmaker!! One that's done it in the league at a high mark. Killing two birds with one stone 

[nosejob]

1 hour ago, Billz4ever said:

On the new ESPN+ article, they have best fits for FA's and they have Ben Powers for the Bills.  Maybe too expensive for us, but he's in the top 10 in both run block and pass block win rate.

Plus he has quite a bit of time at right guard.

[warrior9]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Josh Jacobs is not only a RB, he's a playmaker!! One that's done it in the league at a high mark. Killing two birds with one stone 

Ok, so how much do you want to pay him?

 

Or do you just build a very strong offensive line and do what every other team that has won a Super Bowl over 15 years has done? You build an offensive line and the person carrying the rock can be an undrafted FA. Please see the data provided. 

1 hour ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Why anyone wouldn't like your "pick" haven't really seem the dude play. 

 

He's a GAME CHANGING WR. He reminds me of JJ... can haul about any pass in and can burn you. Long and FAST. 

This guys name has been brought up so much and the only people that like him are the people that havent seen him play.

 

He is very stiff, he doesnt do anything great. He had 6 TDs in a conference that doesnt play defense. He doesn't out jump anyone, he isn't physical ... he's a fast guy in a spread offense... he's a Kevin White... 

 

If this guy reminds you of Justin Jefferson, you REALLLLLY need to reevaluate what youre looking at.. they couldn't be further from each other. 

[ArdmoreRyno]

19 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

Ok, so how much do you want to pay him?

 

Or do you just build a very strong offensive line and do what every other team that has won a Super Bowl over 15 years has done? You build an offensive line and the person carrying the rock can be an undrafted FA. Please see the data provided. 

This guys name has been brought up so much and the only people that like him are the people that havent seen him play.

 

He is very stiff, he doesnt do anything great. He had 6 TDs in a conference that doesnt play defense. He doesn't out jump anyone, he isn't physical ... he's a fast guy in a spread offense... he's a Kevin White... 

 

If this guy reminds you of Justin Jefferson, you REALLLLLY need to reevaluate what youre looking at.. they couldn't be further from each other. 

 

Funny... I watched him play at TCU for 3 seasons. He managed 163 yards against Michigan in the CFP. How many games did you see him play in?  Besides the CFP games.

 

He was the LONE WR on that team. Every team doubled him and he still had games where he just looked unstoppable. 

 

BTW: Defenses in the top 30 last season? 

 

Big XII: 4

SEC: 4

 

[Solomon Grundy]

37 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

Ok, so how much do you want to pay him?

The question was to select one, payment wasn't included 😂

[billybrew1]

On 2/20/2023 at 8:34 AM, Conlan58 said:

I wouldn't be opposed to dumping a #1 draft pick for another weapon for Josh. Tee Higgins comes to mind - the contract would need to be figured out, but that's where Big Baller Beane comes in. 

But, of course, realistically, that’s the last thing we need. We need bargain greatness, not another super high-priced player.

We are supposed to getting better through the draft, but we’re just not making it… and we’re broke spending on mediocre free agents. It’s just a mess right now…. I’m sorry….

[warrior9]

2 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Funny... I watched him play at TCU for 3 seasons. He managed 163 yards against Michigan in the CFP. How many games did you see him play in?  Besides the CFP games.

 

He was the LONE WR on that team. Every team doubled him and he still had games where he just looked unstoppable. 

 

BTW: Defenses in the top 30 last season? 

 

Big XII: 4

SEC: 4

 

Check the Big 12 schedules and you'll see why they are in the top 30. 

 

So you're telling me... you watched him for 3 seasons.... and you think he has the same skill as Justin Jefferson? MY LORD..... he had 163 yards against Michigan... one was a 80 yard catch and run on a drag where he wasn't touched.. he does NOTHING great.. .He wasn't the the LONE WR on that team.. he barely had 1000 yards and Duggan had 3700 passing yards. He rarely makes contested catches... he's a one trick pony. He's as stiff as a board. Go find one catch he makes that you're like 'YES, THIS IS JUSTIN JEFFERSON!' and post it here.

 

I watched probably 10 games of his.. I live in DFW

Edited February 21, 2023 by warrior9

[BuffBillsForLife]

A Bosa or TJ Watt, but those are unrealistic.  So Tee Higgins it is.

[John from Riverside]

My realistic pick would be Melvin Ingram
 

When Von Miller went down or pass, Rush disappeared

 

I don’t wanna be drafting any more edges. I definitely don’t want our first round pick to be a defensive player but taking an older age that’s still got a little bit of juice left would really help. I’m actually wondering whether or not we might be able to get jerry Hughes back

[RyanC883]

On 2/20/2023 at 5:08 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

Ed Oliver? 

 

i like that, not even a draft pick for him! 

[CEN-CAL17]

Realistically… FA OG Dalton Risner.

 

Would fit in nicely at Guard. Draft Schwartz, center from Minnesota to play RG for a season then replaces Morse at Center 2024-25 season.

 

 

[BuffaloTX]

Hopkins

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

16 hours ago, warrior9 said:

Check the Big 12 schedules and you'll see why they are in the top 30. 

 

So you're telling me... you watched him for 3 seasons.... and you think he has the same skill as Justin Jefferson? MY LORD..... he had 163 yards against Michigan... one was a 80 yard catch and run on a drag where he wasn't touched.. he does NOTHING great.. .He wasn't the the LONE WR on that team.. he barely had 1000 yards and Duggan had 3700 passing yards. He rarely makes contested catches... he's a one trick pony. He's as stiff as a board. Go find one catch he makes that you're like 'YES, THIS IS JUSTIN JEFFERSON!' and post it here.

 

I watched probably 10 games of his.. I live in DFW

 

You sure hate the guy huh? Are you a Michigan fan? 

 

Ah yes, the mighty SEC games against the likes of ULM, Utah State and Austin Peay! Sam Houston State, Appy State, UMASS... I could go on an on. HUGE games. BIG TIME offenses going up against the SEC teams.  🤣

 

Dude, I never said "he has the same skills as Justin Jefferson". I said, he reminds me of him. That build, the strain he causes on defense with having to be covered by two DB's. Speed. 

 

You might be the most over-the-board drama queen on this page. (and that says a lot). 

 

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Edited February 22, 2023 by ArdmoreRyno

[nucci]

23 hours ago, Homey D. Clown said:

Reggie White

He's dead

[TheyCallMeAndy]

20 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Round, I’ve been banging this drum for a bit once I heard the Fish were letting him walk.  Yes, he’s not a blocker.  We don’t need a blocker, we need a weapon.

 

Grab him for contested catches and we have our 12 personnel.  We have our 21 with Cook and Hines.  We can get our top 11 personnel by drafting a speedy WR in the 1st round, then 2 Guards.

 

Take the first 3 rds. and later maybe a safety.

 

For the love of God no more CB’s, DE’s, or RB’s.

If they grabbed him, that may even take the pressure off Gabe Davis. 

[Simon Says]

On 2/20/2023 at 11:34 AM, Conlan58 said:

I wouldn't be opposed to dumping a #1 draft pick for another weapon for Josh. Tee Higgins comes to mind - the contract would need to be figured out, but that's where Big Baller Beane comes in. 

You have kinda broken the rules of the game with your proposed TRADE. 

I think his agent is tough to deal with and might concern other teams if they try to extend him.

And why would the Bengals trade a quality WR who is still on his rookie deal? The Bengals won't give up any of Burrows weapons. 

[Warriorspikes51]

DK Metcalf.  Unrealistic due to contract.

 

[warrior9]

1 hour ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

You sure hate the guy huh? Are you a Michigan fan? 

 

Ah yes, the mighty SEC games against the likes of ULM, Utah State and Austin Peay! Sam Houston State, Appy State, UMASS... I could go on an on. HUGE games. BIG TIME offenses going up against the SEC teams.  🤣

 

Dude, I never said "he has the same skills as Justin Jefferson". I said, he reminds me of him. That build, the strain he causes on defense with having to be covered by two DB's. Speed. 

 

You might be the most over-the-board drama queen on this page. (and that says a lot). 

 

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Jesus. LMFAO 

Edited February 22, 2023 by warrior9
Big 12 Homer... no reason to try and have a convo. LOL

[Teddy KGB]

Fat Strong Guy who can run and pass block 

[Warriorspikes51]

Does 5 new starting OLineman count as 1 😆

[ArdmoreRyno]

22 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

Jesus. LMFAO 

 

If you actually quoted me correctly... would give you more creditability. 

 

That said, the SEC (aside from UGA) has been on par with the Big XII defensively the past couple of years. Lets get real. EXAMPLE: Oklahoma State had a top 2 defense in 2021, only 2nd to Georgia.  While the Cowboys were playing games where they allowed like 2 touchdowns in the 2nd half all season that year, Florida was giving up 52 points to Samford. 

 

I was at PLENTLY of Ole Miss home games where it would get into a ridiculous shootout (like the Ole Miss v Arkansas game in 2021, 100+ points scored). Don't act like the SEC is a defensive conference anymore. THEY ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE. You have Georgia, maybe Alabama (even though they've had games were they looked like trash on defense). That's about it. 

 

SEC is not any better than the Big XII defensively overall anymore. Neither are Big 10 level. 

 

 

[Homey D. Clown]

3 hours ago, nucci said:

He's dead

He's still better than Oliver.

[Yantha]

OT Orlando Brown.  Double win.  On one hand you help the O-line, while on the other you remove the blind side in KC.

 

Let Singletary and Edmunds walk to sign this guy, draft a linebacker in round 2 to replace Edmunds while giving James Cook and Nyheim Hines a shot.  You could also get a fairly cheap RB in FA to round out the backfield or even draft a 5th or 6th rounder (value there).

 

We would have the money....  

 

Just want to also say that when Edmunds has a crap season not long ago.... the defense was still pretty good.

Edited February 22, 2023 by Yantha

[dollars 2 donuts]

 

 

Boy, I am sorry I don't have anyone in mind...but just a good, reasonably aged Olinemen that is plug and play.

 

A real, live plug and play and not a, "YES, he's awesome, we sure...oh wait...wow...eww...ok...well," player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts

[frostbitmic]

Tre' Edmunds

[LyndonvilleBill]

Draft - Zach Harrison DE/Edge Ohio St (NOT 1st rnd).

 

FA - DJ Chark WR

[DCofNC]

On 2/20/2023 at 9:52 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

Heard Jerry Jeudy might be back on the block soon, although I'd be surprised at Payton dumping O talent. Either way, I'd trade our 1st for him.

For Zay Jones 2.0? Nah.  3rd at most.

[philholbroo]

Montez Sweat via trade.

If not then Dalton Risner via FA.

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, philholbroo said:

Montez Sweat via trade.

If not then Dalton Risner via FA.

I like the way that you’re thinking, especially with Montez sweat
 

We do not know when Von Miller is actually going to be back and we don’t know if he’s going to be 100% when he comes back it may take him some time

 

We need legitimate pass rush on this team to go opposite groot, neither Epenesa, nor Basham I have shown that ability 

 

I’m getting visions of Montez sweat on one side and Von Miller on the other with a little bit of Groot mixed in at the three tech going after some of these quarterbacks that carved us up this past year

 

It would free up draft picks to spend on the office of side of the ball

[GreggTX]

Orlando Brown

 

 

[zow2]

Michael Mayer

[ArdmoreRyno]

9 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Michael Mayer

 

Dude is a bad ass, but not sure if Knox can't be a top 5 TE. Just need to get him the right plays. 

 

I saw Mayer play live when I went to the Fiesta Bowl in 2022 to watch ND play my Cowboys. I was so frustrated (but extremely impressed) with him. I thought he was first round potential back then. Was surprised when he came back. 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

On 2/20/2023 at 12:07 PM, JaCrispy said:

Zay Flowers or Tank Dell 

 

Speed kills!

Honorable mention TE Dalton Kincaid- the next Travis Kelce 👍

 

If your honorable mention is the next Kelce then Flowers or Dell must be Jerry Rice. 😂 

[Ya Digg?]

On 2/20/2023 at 9:52 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

Heard Jerry Jeudy might be back on the block soon, although I'd be surprised at Payton dumping O talent. Either way, I'd trade our 1st for him.

You would give up a first round pick for a guy who averages roughly 50 catches and 700 yards per year? Yea I know QB play and all that, but that’s a lot to give up for a guy who hasn’t had 1000 yards yet and banking a ton on potential

[DrDawkinstein]

7 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

You would give up a first round pick for a guy who averages roughly 50 catches and 700 yards per year? Yea I know QB play and all that, but that’s a lot to give up for a guy who hasn’t had 1000 yards yet and banking a ton on potential

 

You say it yourself, QB play. Can't knock him on pure stats. They dont tell the story.

 

Our 1st wouldnt be my first offer. Just sayin, if that's what it took, I don't think there will be a rookie WR available at 27 who is just as good.

 

My goal is to get one WR and two IOL from the first 3 rounds. If there isnt an IOL worth taking at 27, and none of the rookie WRs available look like a sure thing, we could do worse than get Jeudy.

[PrimeTime101]

the biggest, fattest and most mobile OL Man we can get. Might look something like this. 

[Motor26]

Hearing rumors of the Bills being interested in Derrick Henry if Tennessee moves on.

[JaCrispy]

1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

If your honorable mention is the next Kelce then Flowers or Dell must be Jerry Rice. 😂 

Lol…yeah i put it that way because I couldn’t see the Bills drafting a TE in the 1st round…👍

[Shemp]

I can't talk players but I'd like big upgrades on OL and DL. We need blocking and tackling!