PepeSilvia Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) McDermott is terrible situationally. Beane has consistently whiffed on early round draft picks. we don’t have any difference makers on any level of defense for a defensive head coach lead team (besides a 34 year old 140 million dollar DE with a bad knee) you can’t miss on that many draft picks and expect to have a good team #17 is so good he makes up for a lot of weaknesses on this team until you play a team who can expose them 6 years going on 7 and the o line, d line are soft. We don’t have any playmakers/difference makers besides Allen and diggs and there’s no salary cap space This isn’t a one off season fix. Teams in our own division are getting better. We’re going to take a step back before we move forward I also firmly believe we let the best coach on the staff left for NY and we’re going to feel the backlash for years to come Edited January 23, 2023 by PepeSilvia 9 1 7 9 12 4 1 1 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: McDermott is terrible situationally. Beane has consistently whiffed on early round draft picks. we don’t have any difference makers on any level of defense for a defensive head coach lead team (besides a 34 year old 140 million dollar DE with a bad knee) you can’t miss on that many draft picks and expect to have a good team #17 is so good he makes up for a lot of weaknesses on this team until you play a team who can expose them 6 years going on 7 and the o line, d line are soft. We don’t have any playmakers/difference makers besides Allen and diggs and there’s no salary cap space This isn’t a one off season fix. Teams in our own division are getting better. We’re going to take a step back before we move forward I also firmly believe we let the best coach on the staff leave for NY and we’re going to feel the backlash for years to come Other than Sean Payton who is now everyones shiny new toy who is the HC you want to replace him with? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) No Allen and they were likely gone a few years ago. Honestly not sure what to do here. Got to take a real hard look though. How much of the success is Allen vs the regime? Put Allen on previous regimes teams and how good are those teams? Edited January 23, 2023 by ngbills 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I support replacing McDermott with an offensive head coach. But I would give Beane another chance 5 8 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Yeah this is just stupid. They dont "have to go" because they arent going anywhere. They've made the playoffs in 5 of the 6 years, won a higher percentage of regular season games than any coach and GM combo in Bills history, and drafted a franchise QB. Pretty sure they arent going anywhere. 7 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 All valid points. Hard to argue 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 McD was ranked as the 2ne best situational coach in the NFL this season next to Sirianni in Philly. I'll listen to a lot of things on McD, this isn't one of them tho. You are barking up the wrong tree. 2 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 How about Leslie Frazier??? How in the hell can this guy be still employed after tonight? And what’s laughable is that teams will still Interview him for a head coaching job. How insane how this league become??!! Complete insanity! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 People who are quick to criticize ask this question. Remove Allen and what have they done that is impressive? Is there a scheme? Is there winning when your qb is out? Unique capabilities? How often do we our coach other teams? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Think back at how many terrible coaching decisions; just off the top of my head; hail murray titans game failed qb sneak with Josh because Dion Dawkins got blown up (he stinks. That’s another thread of its own) 13 seconds The first Miami game this year the second Miami game this year the third Miami game this year having a 17 point lead on Minnesota. 4th and 17. I won’t pick that scab wind patriots game last year then John feliciano parts ways and says he feels the team was soft. Was he wrong? The best coach we had on this team coaches for the Giants now years of whiffing on draft picks are made up by Josh Allen being so damn good there’s only so much he can do he needs help in the form of talent on the field and in the front office 4 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 The lack of having no creative scheme has to go. The defense has ran the same play for 5-6 years so teams have them figured out. The offense consist of go routes like literally the whole game, rarely working the short to middle of the field. Mcd and Beane are not going anywhere, we can only hope that the play callers are upgraded 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 McDermott deserves another year but both coordinators need to go 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: McDermott is terrible situationally. Beane has consistently whiffed on early round draft picks. we don’t have any difference makers on any level of defense for a defensive head coach lead team (besides a 34 year old 140 million dollar DE with a bad knee) you can’t miss on that many draft picks and expect to have a good team #17 is so good he makes up for a lot of weaknesses on this team until you play a team who can expose them 6 years going on 7 and the o line, d line are soft. We don’t have any playmakers/difference makers besides Allen and diggs and there’s no salary cap space This isn’t a one off season fix. Teams in our own division are getting better. We’re going to take a step back before we move forward I also firmly believe we let the best coach on the staff leave for NY and we’re going to feel the backlash for years to come ffs another bad take. go boo hoo in your bathroom so your wife doesnt see you... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan3482 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: McDermott is terrible situationally. Beane has consistently whiffed on early round draft picks. we don’t have any difference makers on any level of defense for a defensive head coach lead team (besides a 34 year old 140 million dollar DE with a bad knee) you can’t miss on that many draft picks and expect to have a good team #17 is so good he makes up for a lot of weaknesses on this team until you play a team who can expose them 6 years going on 7 and the o line, d line are soft. We don’t have any playmakers/difference makers besides Allen and diggs and there’s no salary cap space This isn’t a one off season fix. Teams in our own division are getting better. We’re going to take a step back before we move forward Because they only care about Goody 2 shoe "character guys" over better talent. Character didnt show up today, our character guys go blown the ***** up today. Of course the other teams are getting better, we struggle mightily against them. Who really trusts Beane and Mcdormett to make the right moves?? They'll probably draft 2 running backs and 2 CBs again.... and then 2nd round bounce next year. Rinse and repeat. 31 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: Edited January 23, 2023 by billsfan3482 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Beane can stay, but McClappy has to go, should’ve been gone last year 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: McDermott deserves another year but both coordinators need to go No. Dorsey does not need to go. The Bills need to build an o-line and bring in a 2nd receiver that can catch a ***** ball when it matters. Frazier? With all the money and draft picks sunk into that side of the ball….most definitely but you just can’t let the man go without a viable replacement. Who do you bring in? Edited January 23, 2023 by Beast 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 McDermott is just a masculine cheerleader. Does McD correct Frazier when he makes calls or takes control. Also the Bills D is horrible. Keep Beane and McD. There’s gonna be a new DC next year 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, McBean said: Beane can stay, but McClappy has to go, should’ve been gone last year Who do you replace him with though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: McDermott is terrible situationally. Beane has consistently whiffed on early round draft picks. we don’t have any difference makers on any level of defense for a defensive head coach lead team (besides a 34 year old 140 million dollar DE with a bad knee) you can’t miss on that many draft picks and expect to have a good team #17 is so good he makes up for a lot of weaknesses on this team until you play a team who can expose them 6 years going on 7 and the o line, d line are soft. We don’t have any playmakers/difference makers besides Allen and diggs and there’s no salary cap space This isn’t a one off season fix. Teams in our own division are getting better. We’re going to take a step back before we move forward I also firmly believe we let the best coach on the staff leave for NY and we’re going to feel the backlash for years to come Neither is going anywhere, I do believe Pegula should insist that Sean fires Frazier because I know Sean will not do this on his own. Sean threw the special teams coach under the bus last season after 13secs to save Frazier's butt. This time he needs to replace him and we a fresh scheme , Frazier's scheme are useless and not willing to adjust. I am sure Sean is a part of that and that was why he got fired himself in Philly . You have to bring pressure in this league or will get beat with the level of QB's in the AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, PaulieYayo said: Who do you replace him with though? Should have been Schoen and Daboll but we know where they are now. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, gr8billsfan said: McDermott is just a masculine cheerleader. Does McD correct Frazier when he makes calls or takes control. Also the Bills D is horrible. Keep Beane and McD. There’s gonna be a new DC next year I’ll be surprised if he has the onions to fire the DC, everyone at OBD is too much in love with each other. If 13 seconds wasn’t a fireable offense, I don’t know what is. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, PepeSilvia said: Should have been Schoen and Daboll but we know where they are now. Everyone hated Daboll last season. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I support replacing McDermott with an offensive head coach. But I would give Beane another chance This is the proper route. I'm convinced McDermott is basically telling Beane who to pick defensively on draft day. Josh is the only path to a SB. Build your damn team around the offense. Hire a offensive HC. We're not winning a SB with McD botching picks or in game decisions. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Beane needs to own up for whiffing on THREE high draft picks at DE. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Everyone hated Daboll last season. Giants got blown out on both sides of the ball yesterday. Can say they don’t have the horses yet, but they appear to have been outcoached Edited January 23, 2023 by Beck Water 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, wppete said: How about Leslie Frazier??? How in the hell can this guy be still employed after tonight? And what’s laughable is that teams will still Interview him for a head coaching job. How insane how this league become??!! Complete insanity! He hasn't gotten one interview this year and he's not likely to. I do agree the Bills need to make a change. Let's hope they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Beane drafted this guy Josh Allen when everyone thought it was stupid. He’s missing on DL with Sean/Leslie input on scheme. Maybe the scheme just sucks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) McDermott, I’m ready to let him go. I doubt we will, but I’d support it. He’s a defensive guy who’s defense has been trash in the elimination game the past 3 seasons. He’s situationally poor in the big playoff moments. And most importantly, Josh Allen will perennially be at a disadvantage of not having a steady offensive mind at the helm like … oh, I don’t know … EVERY OTHER DIVISIONAL PLAYOFF TEAM. I will say … tonight, watching that DL against a decimated Bengals OL.. first time I’ve thought Beane might not be it. Edited January 23, 2023 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, The Firebaugh Kid said: Beane needs to own up for whiffing on THREE high draft picks at DE. Three? Boogie, fine Epenesa is whatever Groot is not a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, ngbills said: People who are quick to criticize ask this question. Remove Allen and what have they done that is impressive? Is there a scheme? Is there winning when your qb is out? Unique capabilities? How often do we our coach other teams? 17 minutes ago, CaliBills said: ffs another bad take. go boo hoo in your bathroom so your wife doesnt see you... Terrible take assuming anyone would marry this person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 At what point do you acknowledge that the way your doing things is good but not good enough? The defensive rankings have been inflated due to playing on a mostly bad divison the last few years. This scheme works when you have 4 d lineman who can pressure the qb with 4 alone which makes up for a lot of other deficiencies in your defense. When they don’t and you whiff on 1st and 2nd round picks and pay 140 mill to a 34 year old with a bad knee this is the product Look what Daboll and Schoen did in one year in NY? They overachieved for sure, and got blown out by a better team in the eagles but that was bound to happen. he’s fantastic situationally and gets the best out of lesser players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) I said in another post, McD isn’t going anywhere until the Bills have back to back sub .500 seasons. Let me know once that happens and then we can actually discuss McD being fired. PS. And this has nothing to do with what I’d personally like to see happen. It’s just being realistic. Pegula won’t make a move unless it has to be made. Edited January 23, 2023 by Billznut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan3482 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, PepeSilvia said: Should have been Schoen and Daboll but we know where they are now. Its wild, Daboll with less talent got just as far as the bills did this season. Just imagine they have a good draft (not relying on *****in character), get a better QB than Jones and out perform Beane and Sean the next 3-4 yrs. I see support for neither, both or 1 or the other. I just cant see how anything changes enough to get us over the top.. I don't believe either deserve more time to ***** things up or break our hearts again next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) I get everyone wants to defend this team. We all love the Bills or we wouldn’t spend so much time on this board on on them. it’s like if you have a kid who constantly f’cks up but he’s a nice kid and you defend him to the end. At as certain point you have to say it’s not a them problem and it’s a you problem. it’s not the team, it’s the people responsible for the team Edited January 23, 2023 by PepeSilvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, billsfan3482 said: Its wild, Daboll with less talent got just as far as the bills did this season. Just imagine they have a good draft (not relying on *****in character), get a better QB than Jones and out perform Beane and Sean the next 3-4 yrs. I see support for neither, both or 1 or the other. I just cant see how anything changes enough to get us over the top.. I don't believe either deserve more time to ***** things up or break our hearts again next year. I’m not sure what this means. What do you mean by it? Hopefully we are not confusing people choosing to not weigh in on a knee-jerk postgame thread as “no support” That’s how it always is, Josh said it years ago, win and you’re awesome, lose and you suck and we should fire all the coaches. Edited January 23, 2023 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I’m honestly kind of tired of our defensive scheme and I wonder if Mcd would hand the reigns over to someone who would bring in a different point of view? Or is he hell bent on sticking with his scheme and if so then I dunno.. the last 3 playoffs have been kinda disastrous for the D. The Bengals coordinator is getting a lot of praise for all his different looks he calls. He has had pretty good success against Mahomes and now us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, billsfan3482 said: Its wild, Daboll with less talent got just as far as the bills did this season. Against weaker opponents. Stop trying to compare apples and oranges. The Bills lost to a better team today. That means they need to build a better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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