Ray Stonada Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Too many turnovers and a number of missed easy throws, like against the Jets to win the game. No question Allen’s play dipped a bit over the season. I think he got flustered and started hearing footsteps. He was running for his life most of the year because someone’s (usually Spencer Brown’s) man was coming unblocked. He got addicted to deep shots even when the play was designed for a guy who came open for a first down. I also don’t get why they stopped feeding Diggs who was on record pace when the offense was at it’s best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 1/27/2023 at 6:25 PM, CincyBillsFan said: Allen would shine and dominate the NFL in the 49's system. It would allow Shanahan to launch his offense into the stratosphere. Why do you think the 49's drafted Trey Lance? It was an attempt to have their own version of Allen. I think had Allen played in that system his 2nd year or so he would shine, but to put him in there right now he wouldn't do well because he often ignores the short passing game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 they need to solidify the OL create a offensive identity that actually includes being able to run the football. Josh need to get better at playing the percentages and really focus on protecting the football He carries that thing around like a loaf of bread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 12:27 AM, RoscoeParrish said: We were dominated in all 3 phases today, but this season and franchise has always been about Josh Allen being an elite QB and taking us to the next level. It is safe to say he regressed this year and today was the nail in the coffin. Sure you can blame the OC, but 10 points at home in a playoff game falls on the QBs shoulders in a MAJOR capacity. If this board voted on Cinci having 27 points before kickoff, most would have taken it. I am afraid Allen’s career will be an above average quarterback who shuffles between signs of greatness, signs of mediocrity, and signs of someone with zero offers out of high school. He is NOT even in the league of Mahomes and Burrow and today solidified that. He had as many boneheaded turnovers this year as his rookie season. He led the league in fumbles and INTs. He scored 10 points at home in a playoff game when he was preseason MVP and this team was preseason Super Bowl favorites. He regressed. Retweet from 8 months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, RoscoeParrish said: Retweet from 8 months ago. It really sucks, but the Josh Allen from the halftime of last year's Green Bay game through last night isn't him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: It really sucks, but the Josh Allen from the halftime of last year's Green Bay game through last night isn't him. Perhaps it is him. And the handful of “elite” games are the exception. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: It really sucks, but the Josh Allen from the halftime of last year's Green Bay game through last night isn't him. that's 13½ games. Its a long time for him not to be him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, Airseven said: Perhaps it is him. And the handful of “elite” games are the exception. Time will tell. Sure hope not, but results are results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Even his scrambling was weird. For a guy that was going to limit his hits, he needlessly absorbed some crunching blows on plays he easily could've fallen down or run about of bounds. He played like it was a sandlot game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Airseven said: Perhaps it is him. And the handful of “elite” games are the exception. I think up and down, inconsistent play will be his entire career. When he is on, he will be viewed as one of the top QBs. When he is off, he will show why he went to JUCO/Wyoming. What is disheartening is we all hoped Wyoming Josh would have been dead by now. At year 6, it is officially safe to say who he is and what we will have to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said: I think up and down, inconsistent play will be his entire career. When he is on, he will be viewed as one of the top QBs. When he is off, he will show why he went to JUCO/Wyoming. What is disheartening is we all hoped Wyoming Josh would have been dead by now. At year 6, it is officially safe to say who he is and what we will have to deal with. That's what's so depressing about last night. He can't be tamed. He's going to do reckless, wild stuff. Sometimes it's great. Lately, it hasn't been so great (I'm speaking principally of the TD/TO ratio). It is what it is. We have to deal with arm punts and butter fingers fumbles and voluntarily accepting unnecessary punishment. Last night was like watching the Vikings game from last year without the points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, zow2 said: Even his scrambling was weird. For a guy that was going to limit his hits, he needlessly absorbed some crunching blows on plays he easily could've fallen down or run about of bounds. He played like it was a sandlot game. After this: 'I can't continue to do this': Bills' Josh Allen wants to embrace safer style of play. BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Josh Allen said the message going through his head when he is running downfield is “don’t get hit.” https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/37988/i-cant-continue-to-do-this-bills-josh-allen-wants-to-embrace-safer-style-of-play?platform=amp Beyond concerning when claimed self aware, yet continues to be an idiot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) Now that it's a forgone conclusion that we will have the #1 overall pick, do you think our new head coach/GM, Deion Sanders, takes Caleb Williams with that pick or does he take Harrison and then takes his son in the 2025 draft to be the QB? Maybe trade Allen for a 6th if a team is desperate for a backup? Or maybe we finish the year 12-5 and host playoff games at OP? It'll be one of the above scenarios. Nowhere in between right? Edited September 12, 2023 by stlbills13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, CoudyBills said: It really sucks, but the Josh Allen from the halftime of last year's Green Bay game through last night isn't him. I unfortunately thing this IS him. This is who we have now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: I unfortunately thing this IS him. This is who we have now. It is who the vast majority of the media and experts have said we have always had. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: It is who the vast majority of the media and experts have said we have always had. I know it's open season on Allen today but that is going too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: I know it's open season on Allen today but that is going too far. How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Did Allen regress or was the team utterly unprepared for the Jets defense? Dorsey can go throw a few more tablets in a fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: How so? "We have always had"? He was improving since he was drafted, he was putting in the effort to improve, played like he had a chip on his shoulder., Lifting the O and the team around him. Then it changed. It wasn't always like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Did Allen regress or was the team utterly unprepared for the Jets defense? Dorsey can go throw a few more tablets in a fit. Dorsey didn’t drop the snap and then proceed to fumble again. Dorsey didn’t force balls into tight spaces in a game where all we needed to do was not give it away. There have been plenty of games where OC, O-line, scheme, etc. could be the blame game or at least part of it, but last night was clear as day a Josh Allen crap fest. 3 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: "We have always had"? He was improving since he was drafted, he was putting in the effort to improve, played like he had a chip on his shoulder., Lifting the O and the team around him. Then it changed. It wasn't always like that. Yeah I agree with you there. I guess I meant his flaws, which have always been there throughout his entire career and have spiked as of late, are the exact reasons the claimed experts said he would fail and they wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) After all the lip service of the off-season about him being smarter this year, Allen played like he was drunk last night. Just brainless stuff - bailing on pockets early, not running out of bounds, diving for first downs 7 yards away, fumbling twice on the same play, inaccurate passes. Might’ve been his worst game as a Bill. Somebody needs to sit his ass down and get him straightened out. Edited September 12, 2023 by Jukester 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 With Daboll gone Allen has once again gotten careless with the football. that is on him. Not seeing the field also in him. this game was a complete egg laid by Josh Allen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 2:39 PM, dakrider said: Could Josh Allen play in the 49ers system? I don't think he would do well in that system and would be too constrained. But I would like to see the Bills borrow some aspects of that for next year and force Josh to use the players around him more. Bills absolutely have to improve their running game and make these guys execute better. They will not be successful next year if they cannot do that. One thing would be great if Bills OC would put more emphasis on just getting first downs. Make most pass plays 5-15 yards or so and just work on that primarily for the first few games and then open it up more as the season goes. And along with that also work on getting rid of the ball quicker. When guys aren't open then run or throw it away instead of trying to force something. The biggest mistakes I've seen this year is Josh primarily trying to force plays instead of just throwing it away or taking the short gain and kicking a FG or punting. If Josh can’t succeed under Kyle Shanahan, who seems to be the leagues best QB whisperer we are all effed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 Bump 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, RoscoeParrish said: Bump Mentally deficient thread in January. Mentally deficient thread in November. Nice consistency. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 They need to take that sideline hole shot out of the playbook. He gets more picks than completions on that throw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 He doesn’t look super engaged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: Mentally deficient thread in January. Mentally deficient thread in November. Nice consistency. Sorry the truth hurts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14774 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Josh needs a coach/mentor/butt-chewer. Not a group of buddies. It's not working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: He doesn’t look super engaged He’s looked like that all year. Just sits on the bench with the dazed look on his face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, 14774 said: Josh needs a coach/mentor/butt-chewer. Not a group of buddies. It's not working. Perhaps he should try growing up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: He’s looked like that all year. Just sits on the bench with the dazed look on his face. its really bizarre. the fire is gone. There is something more going on than just what is happening on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 thus was a dumb thread when it was started (especially considering all the team had gone through last season), but seems pretty accurate at this snapshot in time. Let’s hope he figures it out enough for us to sneak into a Wild Card spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 He needs offseason girlfriends only. These football season girlfriends are killing him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said: its really bizarre. the fire is gone. There is something more going on than just what is happening on the field. Unfortunately I agree. That fire and energy we saw from Allen in previous years simply isn’t there. We never see him screaming anymore, signaling first down, trash talking, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: Unfortunately I agree. That fire and energy we saw from Allen in previous years simply isn’t there. We never see him screaming anymore, signaling first down, trash talking, etc. Well...he did point once. And it cost him 15 yards... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, RiotAct said: thus was a dumb thread when it was started (especially considering all the team had gone through last season), but seems pretty accurate at this snapshot in time. Let’s hope he figures it out enough for us to sneak into a Wild Card spot. Are you apologizing to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said: Are you apologizing to me? Nope 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, RiotAct said: thus was a dumb thread when it was started (especially considering all the team had gone through last season), but seems pretty accurate at this snapshot in time. Let’s hope he figures it out enough for us to sneak into a Wild Card spot. I don't think it was dumb. If you look at his play since the Chiefs game last year, Josh hasn't played like a top tier QB. We just like to remember the handful of good moments, then ignore the mediocre play & tons of turnovers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 JA just cant even hand off a ball 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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