Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Same operator that patched the Tampa GM thru to Buddy Nix?

 

omg forgot all about that. literally can not bnelieve that really happened still

[BigAl2526]

I saw an interesting mock draft yesterday.  It had Buffalo trading for Hopkins.  The cost?  Buffalo trades #27 to Arizona for Arizona's pick at #34.  That means Buffalo gets Hopkins by dropping seven spots to the top of the second round.  The big sticking point, that the mock draft doesn't get in to is what Beane has to do in the way of salary rewrites to manage the cap implications of paying Hopkins.

[billsfan89]

16 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I saw an interesting mock draft yesterday.  It had Buffalo trading for Hopkins.  The cost?  Buffalo trades #27 to Arizona for Arizona's pick at #34.  That means Buffalo gets Hopkins by dropping seven spots to the top of the second round.  The big sticking point, that the mock draft doesn't get in to is what Beane has to do in the way of salary rewrites to manage the cap implications of paying Hopkins.

Trading down from 27 to 34 would amount to the cost of roughly a third round pick. That seems like fair value but you are correct how would the deal be structured?

[Dr. Who]

Just now, billsfan89 said:

Trading down from 27 to 34 would amount to the cost of roughly a third round pick. That seems like fair value but you are correct how would the deal be structured?

I don't know, but in the mock 3.0 we traded Ed Oliver along with pick 27 for Hopkins and 34. Trading Ed helped make the cap work.

[Paul Costa]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I don't know, but in the mock 3.0 we traded Ed Oliver along with pick 27 for Hopkins and 34. Trading Ed helped make the cap work.

That would be a horrible trade . Giving Ed & a 3rd for Hopkins. Would be a laughingstock of the league 

[Dan in Owego]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I don't know, but in the mock 3.0 we traded Ed Oliver along with pick 27 for Hopkins and 34. Trading Ed helped make the cap work.

Really would like to keep Ed if possible, that 5th year lay it all ou for the next contract could be a boon for us.

[bkep32]

This might make 500 pages if this actually happens or we start a new thread and that goes for 250 pages when the trade happen.  I will actually 💩 my pants if he becomes a bill

[uticaclub]

46 minutes ago, jimmy10 said:

It’s all a distraction. The real story? We’re finally acquiring John Skelton. 

Mario Williams making a comeback to complete the trade?

2 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:

That would be a horrible trade . Giving Ed & a 3rd for Hopkins. Would be a laughingstock of the league 

I think we get Hopkins & a 2nd for a 1st & 3rd. Then we trade Oliver to Chicago for 33.

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

Trading down from 27 to 34 would amount to the cost of roughly a third round pick. That seems like fair value but you are correct how would the deal be structured?

Trade Oliver for a mid-round pick to clear 10M in salary. 
 

Use pick 34 or 59 on a DT.  
 

1) To replace Oliver.
 

2) So we have a DT under contract beyond this year.  

 

3)  If they plan on going small at LB, it’s not ideal to also have a small 3T. 
 

But, hey.. if they trade Oliver somewhere to facilitate a trade-down Hopkins acquisition, by all means McBeane, draft a DT and a LB in RD2.  
 

If they truly are hellbent on extending Davis .. that still works.  His cap hit can be managed in ‘24 while Hopkins is still on the books for 15M. 
 

 

[CaptnCoke11]

3 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Mario Williams making a comeback to complete the trade?

I think we get Hopkins & a 2nd for a 1st & 3rd. Then we trade Oliver to Chicago for 33.

Are you high?

[Warriorspikes51]

FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins

[TheyCallMeAndy]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins

How would he know?

[Dr. Who]

7 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said:

Really would like to keep Ed if possible, that 5th year lay it all ou for the next contract could be a boon for us.

I agree. I don't think it would be necessary and we are already looking at DT as probably one of the early picks. But that is how the trade was specified in the mock. I stated in the thread it was an overpay and various reasons why Oliver should be kept.

[uticaclub]

4 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Are you high?

Always, but what does that have to do with the likelyhood of those trade scenarios? I think that's reasonable compensation.

[gordong]

5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins

so if we don't get Dhop we blame this guy now huh???    

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

How would he know?

It’s reasonably possible that he could have connections since he is an actual WR coach. 

2 minutes ago, gordong said:

so if we don't get Dhop we blame this guy now huh???    

No. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

It’s reasonably possible that he could have connections since he is an actual WR coach. 

Ehhh seems like a stretch, we will see! 

[TOboy]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

It’s reasonably possible that he could have connections since he is an actual WR coach. 

It’s certainly odd for him to break it. That said, he’s in the industry and it’s not a good look if he puts this out ther and is wrong (not a great look if he’s right).

[TheyCallMeAndy]

15 minutes ago, TOboy said:

It’s certainly odd for him to break it. That said, he’s in the industry and it’s not a good look if he puts this out ther and is wrong (not a great look if he’s right).

Only person allowed to do that and still have our unconditional love is Von. 
 

Hop isn’t shy about wanting to join the Bills, that is the only reason why I think this may happen. I also think his comments fuel these BS Twitter insiders we have to deal with every year. IC Bob was ahead of him time. 

Edited April 27, 2023 by TheyCallMeAndy

[KDIGGZ]

29 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins

Now we got a high school WR coach in the know? That's like 1 step up from ball boy. Sounds like wishful thinking

[Solomon Grundy]

35 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins

Heeeey... ECB, C Lee B. There has to be a connection 😎

[The Wiz]

3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Heeeey... ECB, C Lee B. There has to be a connection 😎

 

[Solomon Grundy]

https://www.si.com/nfl/cardinals/.amp/analysis/arizona-cardinals-projected-trade-deandre-hopkins-buffalo-bills-during-nfl-draft

[Paul Costa]

54 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Mario Williams making a comeback to complete the trade?

I think we get Hopkins & a 2nd for a 1st & 3rd. Then we trade Oliver to Chicago for 33.

I missed the Oliver for the #33 part. That would make sense

[Richard Noggin]

6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/cardinals/.amp/analysis/arizona-cardinals-projected-trade-deandre-hopkins-buffalo-bills-during-nfl-draft

3rd in 2023 and 6th in 2024? Sign me up.

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, Paul Costa said:

I missed the Oliver for the #33 part. That would make sense

if Oliver was valued at anything above a 4th I’d be very surprisrd

[Dr. Who]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

if Oliver was valued at anything above a 4th I’d be very surprisrd

I think he has more value to us. I'm pretty certain Beane is going to take a DT day one or two regardless. If you trade Oliver, he very likely is going to take two. The only reason I would trade Oliver is if it were the only way to make the numbers work to get Hopkins under the cap.

[mannc]

9 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:

I missed the Oliver for the #33 part. That would make sense

That would be outright thievery and it will never happen

[Bills!Win!]

How can TBD pay me for a new keyboard? My F5 button broke 

[jaybills]

32 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Now we got a high school WR coach in the know? That's like 1 step up from ball boy. Sounds like wishful thinking

Ravens scare me in landing D-Hop. God, I hope not. Bills need this dude for this year alone. Lots of contracts coming up after this year for Bills players. We don't get a Super Bowl this year, we may be waiting through somewhat transition years. 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins

 

Believe me or don't - I have a source that knows this coach personally. This is word for word what my source told me Lee told them:

 

"He said he has a friend who knows someone who works for the Bills. He’s been fed info that has hit before. And he said he was told DHop will be a Bill tomorrow. Unless a team poaches him."

 

My takeaway - take this with a huge grain of salt. We're about four degrees of separation away from the original source. Also that last line is leaving quite a bit of room to be wrong.

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Believe me or don't - I have a source that knows this coach personally. This is word for word what my source told me Lee told them:

 

"He said he has a friend who knows someone who works for the Bills. He’s been fed info that has hit before. And he said he was told DHop will be a Bill tomorrow. Unless a team poaches him."

 

My takeaway - take this with a huge grain of salt. We're about four degrees of separation away from the original source. Also that last line is leaving quite a bit of room to be wrong.

So, that would lead me to believe we have a deal on the table, pending acceptance from AZ.  
 

AZ willing to accept unless someone comes to them with a better offer before the draft starts up. 

[JohnNord]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins

So it looks like “insiders” from Buffalo, KC, and Baltimore are all saying Hopkins is signing with their respective teams.  How does that happen 🤔

49 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Heeeey... ECB, C Lee B. There has to be a connection 😎

The connection is a creative imagination and the fact that they all crave attention.  

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

So it looks like “insiders” from Buffalo, KC, and Baltimore are all saying Hopkins is signing with their respective teams.  How does that happen 🤔

The connection is a creative imagination and the fact that they all crave attention.  

You for sure are the fella who goes around telling little kids Santa doesn't exist.

[17islongenough]

One more sleep until D hop is a bill

[Warriorspikes51]

21 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Believe me or don't - I have a source that knows this coach personally. This is word for word what my source told me Lee told them:

 

"He said he has a friend who knows someone who works for the Bills. He’s been fed info that has hit before. And he said he was told DHop will be a Bill tomorrow. Unless a team poaches him."

 

My takeaway - take this with a huge grain of salt. We're about four degrees of separation away from the original source. Also that last line is leaving quite a bit of room to be wrong.

Thanks for sharing!

 

DHop randomly going out of his way to heap praises on the Bills unprompted is really interesting

[HurlyBurly51]

1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:

Now we got a high school WR coach in the know? That's like 1 step up from ball boy. Sounds like wishful thinking

There's some serious mental gymnastics going on around here trying to connect the dots🤣

[papazoid]

[Aussie Joe]

Any update from the High School coach?

 

 

[Goin Breakdown]

1am. I woke up checked in and here I am again suckered into this whole thing.