BillsShredder83 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Same operator that patched the Tampa GM thru to Buddy Nix? omg forgot all about that. literally can not bnelieve that really happened still 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 I saw an interesting mock draft yesterday. It had Buffalo trading for Hopkins. The cost? Buffalo trades #27 to Arizona for Arizona's pick at #34. That means Buffalo gets Hopkins by dropping seven spots to the top of the second round. The big sticking point, that the mock draft doesn't get in to is what Beane has to do in the way of salary rewrites to manage the cap implications of paying Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: I saw an interesting mock draft yesterday. It had Buffalo trading for Hopkins. The cost? Buffalo trades #27 to Arizona for Arizona's pick at #34. That means Buffalo gets Hopkins by dropping seven spots to the top of the second round. The big sticking point, that the mock draft doesn't get in to is what Beane has to do in the way of salary rewrites to manage the cap implications of paying Hopkins. Trading down from 27 to 34 would amount to the cost of roughly a third round pick. That seems like fair value but you are correct how would the deal be structured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, billsfan89 said: Trading down from 27 to 34 would amount to the cost of roughly a third round pick. That seems like fair value but you are correct how would the deal be structured? I don't know, but in the mock 3.0 we traded Ed Oliver along with pick 27 for Hopkins and 34. Trading Ed helped make the cap work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I don't know, but in the mock 3.0 we traded Ed Oliver along with pick 27 for Hopkins and 34. Trading Ed helped make the cap work. That would be a horrible trade . Giving Ed & a 3rd for Hopkins. Would be a laughingstock of the league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I don't know, but in the mock 3.0 we traded Ed Oliver along with pick 27 for Hopkins and 34. Trading Ed helped make the cap work. Really would like to keep Ed if possible, that 5th year lay it all ou for the next contract could be a boon for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 This might make 500 pages if this actually happens or we start a new thread and that goes for 250 pages when the trade happen. I will actually 💩 my pants if he becomes a bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 46 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: It’s all a distraction. The real story? We’re finally acquiring John Skelton. Mario Williams making a comeback to complete the trade? 2 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: That would be a horrible trade . Giving Ed & a 3rd for Hopkins. Would be a laughingstock of the league I think we get Hopkins & a 2nd for a 1st & 3rd. Then we trade Oliver to Chicago for 33. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Trading down from 27 to 34 would amount to the cost of roughly a third round pick. That seems like fair value but you are correct how would the deal be structured? Trade Oliver for a mid-round pick to clear 10M in salary. Use pick 34 or 59 on a DT. 1) To replace Oliver. 2) So we have a DT under contract beyond this year. 3) If they plan on going small at LB, it’s not ideal to also have a small 3T. But, hey.. if they trade Oliver somewhere to facilitate a trade-down Hopkins acquisition, by all means McBeane, draft a DT and a LB in RD2. If they truly are hellbent on extending Davis .. that still works. His cap hit can be managed in ‘24 while Hopkins is still on the books for 15M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Mario Williams making a comeback to complete the trade? I think we get Hopkins & a 2nd for a 1st & 3rd. Then we trade Oliver to Chicago for 33. Are you high? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins How would he know? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said: Really would like to keep Ed if possible, that 5th year lay it all ou for the next contract could be a boon for us. I agree. I don't think it would be necessary and we are already looking at DT as probably one of the early picks. But that is how the trade was specified in the mock. I stated in the thread it was an overpay and various reasons why Oliver should be kept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Are you high? Always, but what does that have to do with the likelyhood of those trade scenarios? I think that's reasonable compensation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins so if we don't get Dhop we blame this guy now huh??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: How would he know? It’s reasonably possible that he could have connections since he is an actual WR coach. 2 minutes ago, gordong said: so if we don't get Dhop we blame this guy now huh??? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: It’s reasonably possible that he could have connections since he is an actual WR coach. Ehhh seems like a stretch, we will see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: It’s reasonably possible that he could have connections since he is an actual WR coach. It’s certainly odd for him to break it. That said, he’s in the industry and it’s not a good look if he puts this out ther and is wrong (not a great look if he’s right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, TOboy said: It’s certainly odd for him to break it. That said, he’s in the industry and it’s not a good look if he puts this out ther and is wrong (not a great look if he’s right). Only person allowed to do that and still have our unconditional love is Von. Hop isn’t shy about wanting to join the Bills, that is the only reason why I think this may happen. I also think his comments fuel these BS Twitter insiders we have to deal with every year. IC Bob was ahead of him time. Edited April 27, 2023 by TheyCallMeAndy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 29 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins Now we got a high school WR coach in the know? That's like 1 step up from ball boy. Sounds like wishful thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 35 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins Heeeey... ECB, C Lee B. There has to be a connection 😎 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Heeeey... ECB, C Lee B. There has to be a connection 😎 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 https://www.si.com/nfl/cardinals/.amp/analysis/arizona-cardinals-projected-trade-deandre-hopkins-buffalo-bills-during-nfl-draft 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 54 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Mario Williams making a comeback to complete the trade? I think we get Hopkins & a 2nd for a 1st & 3rd. Then we trade Oliver to Chicago for 33. I missed the Oliver for the #33 part. That would make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: https://www.si.com/nfl/cardinals/.amp/analysis/arizona-cardinals-projected-trade-deandre-hopkins-buffalo-bills-during-nfl-draft 3rd in 2023 and 6th in 2024? Sign me up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Paul Costa said: I missed the Oliver for the #33 part. That would make sense if Oliver was valued at anything above a 4th I’d be very surprisrd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: if Oliver was valued at anything above a 4th I’d be very surprisrd I think he has more value to us. I'm pretty certain Beane is going to take a DT day one or two regardless. If you trade Oliver, he very likely is going to take two. The only reason I would trade Oliver is if it were the only way to make the numbers work to get Hopkins under the cap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: I missed the Oliver for the #33 part. That would make sense That would be outright thievery and it will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 How can TBD pay me for a new keyboard? My F5 button broke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybills Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Now we got a high school WR coach in the know? That's like 1 step up from ball boy. Sounds like wishful thinking Ravens scare me in landing D-Hop. God, I hope not. Bills need this dude for this year alone. Lots of contracts coming up after this year for Bills players. We don't get a Super Bowl this year, we may be waiting through somewhat transition years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins Believe me or don't - I have a source that knows this coach personally. This is word for word what my source told me Lee told them: "He said he has a friend who knows someone who works for the Bills. He’s been fed info that has hit before. And he said he was told DHop will be a Bill tomorrow. Unless a team poaches him." My takeaway - take this with a huge grain of salt. We're about four degrees of separation away from the original source. Also that last line is leaving quite a bit of room to be wrong. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Believe me or don't - I have a source that knows this coach personally. This is word for word what my source told me Lee told them: "He said he has a friend who knows someone who works for the Bills. He’s been fed info that has hit before. And he said he was told DHop will be a Bill tomorrow. Unless a team poaches him." My takeaway - take this with a huge grain of salt. We're about four degrees of separation away from the original source. Also that last line is leaving quite a bit of room to be wrong. So, that would lead me to believe we have a deal on the table, pending acceptance from AZ. AZ willing to accept unless someone comes to them with a better offer before the draft starts up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins So it looks like “insiders” from Buffalo, KC, and Baltimore are all saying Hopkins is signing with their respective teams. How does that happen 🤔 49 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Heeeey... ECB, C Lee B. There has to be a connection 😎 The connection is a creative imagination and the fact that they all crave attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, JohnNord said: So it looks like “insiders” from Buffalo, KC, and Baltimore are all saying Hopkins is signing with their respective teams. How does that happen 🤔 The connection is a creative imagination and the fact that they all crave attention. You for sure are the fella who goes around telling little kids Santa doesn't exist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 One more sleep until D hop is a bill 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Believe me or don't - I have a source that knows this coach personally. This is word for word what my source told me Lee told them: "He said he has a friend who knows someone who works for the Bills. He’s been fed info that has hit before. And he said he was told DHop will be a Bill tomorrow. Unless a team poaches him." My takeaway - take this with a huge grain of salt. We're about four degrees of separation away from the original source. Also that last line is leaving quite a bit of room to be wrong. Thanks for sharing! DHop randomly going out of his way to heap praises on the Bills unprompted is really interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Now we got a high school WR coach in the know? That's like 1 step up from ball boy. Sounds like wishful thinking There's some serious mental gymnastics going on around here trying to connect the dots🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Any update from the High School coach? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1am. I woke up checked in and here I am again suckered into this whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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