WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 8 hours ago, gobills404 said: Well, the conclusion isn't completely wrong. When the Bills offense has stalled, it's typically when teams have bracket covered Diggs and forced dink and dunks. The counter to that is the Bills running the ball with consistency. If they can keep up back end coverage and still limit the run game you can slow the game enough to have a chance. Of course that is easier said than done. I'll highlight the comeback vs the Dolphins: the Bills switched to the run and suddenly things started clicking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, nucci said: these people need to get with the times...it's not the '70s I’m pretty old-school. I understand that a strong passing game makes it easier but when you’re trying to stop a strong passing game you need to run the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Soooo...we win the toss....I'd actually consider starting with the ball for once. Score first, score early, put the pressure on them to catch up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 8 hours ago, DapperCam said: If the Dolphins are smart they will commit and stick to the run game. They were gashing us last matchup. Might not work as well because Tua is out, but it’s the only way they can keep it close IMO. With Tua out the only smart thing to do is go run heavy at the Bills. Try to take as much time off clock and keep Allen and the Bills offense on the bench. I think once the Bills gets a lead on this team game is over. Will be key for Bills to go up early and force the Fins QB to beat them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Golden*Wheels said: Soooo...we win the toss....I'd actually consider starting with the ball for once. Score first, score early, put the pressure on them to catch up. especially with the opening KR TD last game, sure why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Well, the conclusion isn't completely wrong. When the Bills offense has stalled, it's typically when teams have bracket covered Diggs and forced dink and dunks. The counter to that is the Bills running the ball with consistency. If they can keep up back end coverage and still limit the run game you can slow the game enough to have a chance. Of course that is easier said than done. I'll highlight the comeback vs the Dolphins: the Bills switched to the run and suddenly things started clicking Wouldn’t that be ‘the best way to stop the bills is stopping throws to diggs’ then? Lol which is the opposite of what RGIII said. the last three Super Bowl winners were in the bottom 10 in rushing ypg during the regular season. RGIII is mistaking ‘teams with leads run the ball’ with ‘you have to run the ball to win’ Edited January 12, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: especially with the opening KR TD last game, sure why not Nope McDermott will always defer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Nope McDermott will always defer That's fine too. Crowd will be extremely loud. How about a couple Defensive TD's before Allen even touches the ball haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: That's fine too. Crowd will be extremely loud. How about a couple Defensive TD's before Allen even touches the ball haha I will except all of that It’s amazing how much a defensive touchdown can weigh in the outcome of a game. I sat down last night and watch the Bengals ravens game. Do you know they turn that ball over four times to the Bengals one of them for a defensive touchdown if they don’t turn that bowl over, they may have won that game.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I will except all of that It’s amazing how much a defensive touchdown can weigh in the outcome of a game. I sat down last night and watch the Bengals ravens game. Do you know they turn that ball over four times to the Bengals one of them for a defensive touchdown if they don’t turn that bowl over, they may have won that game.. Did you see Watkins timely fumble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, Golden*Wheels said: Soooo...we win the toss....I'd actually consider starting with the ball for once. Score first, score early, put the pressure on them to catch up. I disagree. I think you trust that your D gets a stop on Skylar Thompson and then you get leverage on the end-of-half strategy. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Nope McDermott will always defer He took the ball one time against Baltimore I believe, but yes 19 out of 20 times he will defer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: Did you see Watkins timely fumble? It baffles me how someone is still paying him to suit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, BillsFan130 said: He took the ball one time against Baltimore I believe, but yes 19 out of 20 times he will defer I think that was due to weather concerns, ie , the weather was supposed to turn bad towards the 2nd half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Can we put them away by late 3rd quarter with a 28+ point lead? We can rest Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs, Jordan Poyer, Matt Milano, Gabe Davis, Knox, Saffold, and Jordan Phillips. Since Tua is out and RB Mostert will not be 100%, this looks possible to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: I think that was due to weather concerns, ie , the weather was supposed to turn bad towards the 2nd half. Yep you are correct. Ironically I think they threw an INT on their first possession which gave Baltimore a first and goal from the 1 lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Nope McDermott will always defer Not always. Against Baltimore the Bills won the toss and took the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, fergie's ire said: Not always. Against Baltimore the Bills won the toss and took the ball. because heavier rain was forecasted for 2nd half and he wanted more dry possessions. Wont be an issue Sunday, fully expect a defer (which is the correct call, almost always). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: because heavier rain was forecasted for 2nd half and he wanted more dry possessions. Wont be an issue Sunday, fully expect a defer (which is the correct call, almost always). dry, sunny and light winds. Don't see that combination much in winter here. Currently a full two weeks and counting since the sun has shone in WNY. Edited January 12, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: Did you see Watkins timely fumble? I saw that and his face on the sideline after that. It said "the gravy train has come to a grinding halt. I am done in the NFL" Similar to the Lee Evans EZ drop that hastened his retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: I saw that and his face on the sideline after that. It said "the gravy train has come to a grinding halt. I am done in the NFL" Similar to the Lee Evans EZ drop that hastened his retirement. Four turnovers in that game one of them for a defensive touchdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 10 hours ago, DapperCam said: If the Dolphins are smart they will commit and stick to the run game. They were gashing us last matchup. Might not work as well because Tua is out, but it’s the only way they can keep it close IMO. That is conventional wisdom. Run the ball. Control the clock. Keep Josh Allen off the field. Hope your defense creates turnovers and limits points. I'm going the complete opposite direction. The Bills have only had two games under 20 points this season (17 and 19 points). That is the absolute floor for this offense. So even if their defense plays lights out, I'm not sure a Skyler Thompson-led team can put together enough long methodical drives to put up 20 points. My gameplan would be tons of trick plays, and taking at least one deep shot every drive. With Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle, you might get lucky and get a couple big plays. I'm taking the chance they can get 2-3 bombs for touchdowns, over the same number of 8-9 play drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Bigvinny said: They were gashing us with Mostert. He broke his thumb 4 days ago. Ahmed looked just as good. 7.2 ypc for him in that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/insider/story/_/id/35419552/nfl-playoff-bracket-predictions-2023-scores-winners-game-super-bowl-pick Barnwell picked the bills to win it all as he picks every game. (ESPN+, paywall) "Prediction: Bills 27, 49ers 17" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Bills by 100,000,000 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewEra Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 12 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: Sadly I think its going to remain fairly similar, at least to start the game. He is going to be worried about Hill/Waddle killing them, so I expect a lot of 2 deep safeties with nickel. IF Miami runs the ball well, then I think he will start creeping a safety down in the box and maybe will get Klein in the game on early downs. But I think his philiosphy doesn't change alot unfortunately as I think he is still going to be terrified of Hill/waddle beating them with explosive plays You don’t think he should be terrified of Hill and Waddle? Those are the guys he needs to be terrified of. Mostert is likely out and Wilson, while fast, isn’t Mostert fast (or strong) and has fumbling issues. i would definitely keep the cheetahs in front of us while trying to figure out their run game. If we can’t stop the run, make adjustments. It’s not just mcdermotts way…..it’s the smart way. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: You don’t think he should be terrified of Hill and Waddle? Those are the guys he needs to be terrified of. Mostert is likely out and Wilson, while fast, isn’t Mostert fast (or strong) and has fumbling issues. i would definitely keep the cheetahs in front of us while trying to figure out their run game. If we can’t stop the run, make adjustments. It’s not just mcdermotts way…..it’s the smart way. Ya that’s a fair assessment. I have nothing against 2 deep safeties to start this game But I hope they at least press those guys and not sit back in cover 3 shell, I guess is what I’m trying to say. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I just read that 13 points would be the largest spread ever in an NFL playoff game. Wild. Forgive me if this has already been discussed. I'm a west coaster, so I miss a few hours of morning discussion in these threads, but... If the Bills lose this game, it would be a massive upset and a historic failure. I expect them to win going away. Skylar Thompson is BAD bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Ya that’s a fair assessment. I have nothing against 2 deep safeties to start this game But I hope they at least press those guys and not sit back in cover 3 shell, I guess is what I’m trying to say. Understood. I think they should sit back and make sage rosenfels jr show us he can beat us. I would try and confuse the ef outta him pre snap. Make bad qb’s nickel and dime you down the field. They’ll eventually make a mistake. If he proves capable, switch it up some. jmo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDad51 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Does anyone have an insight into Skylar's abilities? Accurate passer? Run threat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Bills by 100,000,000 Yes!! my birthday twin! 4 minutes ago, BillsDad51 said: Does anyone have an insight into Skylar's abilities? Accurate passer? Run threat? He has some rushing ability. He just isn't very good. He is a 3rd string rookie Edited January 12, 2023 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, BillsDad51 said: Does anyone have an insight into Skylar's abilities? Accurate passer? Run threat? Run threat for sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 13 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Can anyone explain the Cam Lewis Forearm reporting?! It’s been like 8 straight weeks “Cam Lewis Forearm Full practice” he’s been a full participant every day for weeks. Lewis gets regular medical treatment and wears a brace due to a bone infection he acquired when he broke his arm in college. So like 4 years. I have no idea how they're treating him. The usual treatment for a bone infection that antibiotics doesn't cure is surgery to remove the infected bone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, BillsDad51 said: Does anyone have an insight into Skylar's abilities? Accurate passer? Run threat? I think he just put up like the worst passer rating of the year against the Jets soooooo... He isnt very good at all, nor should he be. Hes a 7th round rookie out of K-State. He is mobile so theres that. He just isnt good. One positive for him, he had no turnover worthy plays against the Jets. Run heavy, dont let him make mistakes. That is going to be their offensive gameplan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Logic said: I just read that 13 points would be the largest spread ever in an NFL playoff game. Wild. Not even close. 49ers were favored by 19 over the Chargers in the Superbowl 29. Colts were -18 vs Jets in SB 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, Logic said: I just read that 13 points would be the largest spread ever in an NFL playoff game. Wild. Forgive me if this has already been discussed. I'm a west coaster, so I miss a few hours of morning discussion in these threads, but... If the Bills lose this game, it would be a massive upset and a historic failure. I expect them to win going away. Skylar Thompson is BAD bad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Massive disparity in team health on Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, jletha said: Massive disparity in team health on Wednesday Perhaps the Dolphins don't want to run out their long term pieces and risk further injury and start next season healthy? They're sending Skylar Thompson out at QB, I doubt they even think they can win this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 13 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: Sadly I think its going to remain fairly similar, at least to start the game. He is going to be worried about Hill/Waddle killing them, so I expect a lot of 2 deep safeties with nickel. IF Miami runs the ball well, then I think he will start creeping a safety down in the box and maybe will get Klein in the game on early downs. But I think his philiosphy doesn't change alot unfortunately as I think he is still going to be terrified of Hill/waddle beating them with explosive plays The Fins will struggle to get to 17 points this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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