We're onto Miami(Miami's headed to Buffalo)...opening line BUF -10! Game at 1:05 PM SUN 1/15

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Croom literally said nobody had guessed it.

 

What?  Literally 100 people in his twitter post said that immediately to the point Micah Hyde was trending on Twitter. Also saw a few guessing Crowder as well so he is definitely not being serious.

Edited January 11, 2023 by Big Turk

[muppy]

3 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Wouldn't those be considered as setbacks to him progressing through the protocol?

 

The term "compounding variables" can be wildly interpreted but McDaniel saying "no set backs to Tua" is why I think it was more of the teams call regardless of the doctors recommendations.

 

or maybe just lingering effects of those things and not sufficiently well enough to play. I hope one of our resident Dr's will chime in with some thoughts as to what that actually means

Edited January 11, 2023 by muppy

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Big Turk]

Just now, muppy said:

or maybe just lingering effects of those things and not sufficiently well enough to play. I hope one of our resident Dr's will chime in with some thoughts as to what that actually means

 

It probably means there is real concern with him ever setting foot on an NFL field again.

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

For much of the year it's been General Hospital...

[stevewin]

13 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Keep bringing on the great news! Give it to me

Now waiting for the Jerry Hughes announcement

[muppy]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

It probably means there is real concern with him ever setting foot on an NFL field again.

yep. it is definitely possible . I know that will be a very hard decision. He has worked his entire life to reach this level. Totally sucks for him if true he won't play again

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I'm not sure why she states "no context?  Someone asked McDermott if everything was falling into place or something to that effect.  He laughed and said they are only focused on one game and that this wasn't a soap opera. 

[Captain Caveman]

8 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

But they were not fired for anything that occurred in the game - both the NFL and the NFLPA agreed the protocols as written were followed and the INC was not at fault.

 

The NFLPA fired him because in their meetings he acted like most doctors can when questioned and got ticked at how they were questioning him and trying to lay blame - so he became combative with their attorney.

 

 

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/10/01/nflpa-fires-unaffiliated-neurotrauma-consultant-amid-tua-tagovailoa-situation-per-report

 

Quote

 

The NFL Players Association reportedly fired the unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant who was involved in Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa’s evaluation last Sunday after it was found the doctor made “several mistakes,” a source told ESPN’s Marcel Louis-Jacques.

 

The NFLPA noted multiple reasons for the termination, including a “failure to understand his role as UNC and hostility during the investigation process,” NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero and Ian Rapoport reported.

 

 

I'd say a "Failure to understand his role as UNC" would indicate that it did have to do with what occurred in that game.  Hostility during the investigation process was also mentioned though.

[mikemac2001]

Just now, muppy said:

yep. it is definitely possible . I know that will be a very hard decision. He has worked his entire life to reach this level. Totally sucks for him if true he won't play again

Ya I wonder if the symptoms just scared the ***** out of him and he was like nope this isn’t worth it. He did report his own symptoms so maybe he isn’t going to risk it or will give it one more shot next year and just watch himself more 

[BillsFanSD]

Just now, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

I'm not sure why she states "no context?  Someone asked McDermott if everything was falling into place or something to that effect.  He laughed and said they are only focused on one game and that this wasn't a soap opera. 

Our beat reporters aren't very good at their jobs.  Buscaglia refused to provide any context for this statement either.  You're a reporter -- providing context is kind of your job.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

4 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Now waiting for the Jerry Hughes announcement

Von Miller for Super Bowl

[RiotAct]

17 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Keep bringing on the great news! Give it to me

— Tua not starting (or Bridgewater, for that matter)

 

— Hamlin discharged from the hospital

 

— Hyde and Crowder both return to practice 

 

 

 

Everything is coming up Milhouse!

[YoloinOhio]

 

[SWATeam]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

 

Give Phillips the week off.  That dude ain't right.

[gordong]

Just now, SWATeam said:

Give Phillips the week off.  That dude ain't right.

I agree....   

Hopefully poyer can sit the entire 2nd half.

 

Edited January 11, 2023 by gordong

[balln]

23 minutes ago, K-9 said:

I’ll be damned. Micah is either establishing a new medical precedent for ACDF recovery by months or he had the ADR surgery instead. Given how conservative doctors are, my money is on the latter. 

Im wondering if he just needed a micro diskectomy / decompression. Would be rare and very lucky. No way he plays if fused or had a disk replacement. 
 

only thing that makes sense is simple decompression / like you see all the time in lumbar spine

Edited January 11, 2023 by balln

[newcam2012]

18 minutes ago, Ta111 said:

I hope you didn’t put too much down on Miami.

My bet looks really bad now. Only thing I can hope for is a back door cover. I never bet too much. I'd rather win both my bet and the Bills win. However, I'll take the Bills win and be happy. 

[GolfandBills]

2 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

Give Phillips the week off.  That dude ain't right.

Bingo.  Let him get healthier for Cincy(most likely)

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

My bet looks really bad now. Only thing I can hope for is a back door cover. I never bet too much. I'd rather win both my bet and the Bills win. However, I'll take the Bills win and be happy. 

Hedge it and bet Buffalo 

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

My bet looks really bad now. Only thing I can hope for is a back door cover. I never bet too much. I'd rather win both my bet and the Bills win. However, I'll take the Bills win and be happy. 

Your 'bet' looks great lol what are you talking about

 

The line is going to end up around 15

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

Your 'bet' looks great lol what are you talking about

 

The line is going to end up around 15

 

I can't bet in Georgia.  Can I Venmo you like $1500 and you place one for me?

[K-9]

1 minute ago, balln said:

Im wondering if he just needed a small diskectomy / decompression. Would be rare and very lucky. No way he plays if fused or had a disk replacement. 
 

only thing that makes sense is simple decompression / like you see all the time in lumbar spine

Does a small discectomy/decompression also involve surgery thru the front of the neck? The scar he has on his throat suggests a surgical procedure of some kind. It’s also worth noting that Micah had been dealing with this cervical disc issue since his Green Bay days, when it first appeared. 
 

I agree that if he had the ACDF there is no way he would play so soon, but he is already at the recovery period for an ADR, so that at least makes sense to me. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Haze_21]

Skylar doesnt look like he belongs in the nfl. Dude is scared to throw over 10 yards downfield and also scared to scramble with wide open holes.

 

I dont love watching a blowout but ill take what is essentially a bye in the playoffs.

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[jkeerie]

36 minutes ago, balln said:

May I remind bills fans that we made Zach Wilson look like a real qb and lost to the jets. 
 

I’ll wait til Sunday at 430

You know...you are correct.  I never count my chickens.  Buffalo is the better team and SHOULD win handily, but those Dolphins are not just going to roll over.  They still have guys that can get to the passer, and great receivers and backs that gave us fits last game.  

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, Haze_21 said:

Skylar doesnt look like he belongs in the nfl. Dude is scared to throw over 10 yards downfield and also scared to scramble with wide open holes.

 

I dont love watching a blowout but ill take what is essentially a bye in the playoffs.

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I hear what you're saying, but a team with Hill and Waddle is not a bye. I'm not saying that the Bills won't win or that the game will be close, but those dudes are always a threat to take a WR screen to the house. 

[balln]

5 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Does a small discectomy/decompression also involve surgery thru the front of the neck? The scar he has on his throat suggests a surgical procedure of some kind. It’s also worth noting that Micah had been dealing with this cervical disc issue since his Green Bay days, when it first appeared. 
 

I agree that if he had the ACDF there is no way he would play so soon, but he is already at the recovery period for an ADR, so that at least makes sense to me. 

Oh I missed that - if he has anterior incision then yea would be fusion or disc replacement. Maybe docs are lightening up on restrictions. If his fusion is completely fused. On a ct scan- could be 2-3 months. And he’s got normal exam and strength good. Why not ? No good science data on return to play in this area

[Warcodered]

26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

If I had to translate that I'd say he's saying just because everything is lining up for a certain story doesn't mean we'll get the ending we want, still have to go out there and get it.

[Big Turk]

22 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/10/01/nflpa-fires-unaffiliated-neurotrauma-consultant-amid-tua-tagovailoa-situation-per-report

 

 

I'd say a "Failure to understand his role as UNC" would indicate that it did have to do with what occurred in that game.  Hostility during the investigation process was also mentioned though.

 

Like in National Treasure when he gets caught stealing the declaration of independence by the FBI. 

 

"Someone has to go to jail"

[K-9]

1 minute ago, balln said:

Oh I missed that - if he has anterior incision then yea would be fusion or disc replacement. Maybe docs are lightening up on restrictions. If his fusion is completely fused. On a ct scan- could be 2-3 months. And he’s got normal exam and strength good. Why not ? No good science data on return to play in this area

Actually, you may be entirely correct about the decompression procedure. I did a little cursory research and then spoke to a spinal surgeon pal of mine (he’s retired) and he said that the decompression procedure also involves a minimal surgical procedure thru the front of the neck which would also leave that scar. The best news is that the recovery period is much shorter than either the ACDF or ADR. I wish I would have looked at this sooner. 

[MAJBobby]

No Tua.

 

[The Wiz]

15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

And a 27 passer rating.

[balln]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Actually, you may be entirely correct about the decompression procedure. I did a little cursory research and then spoke to a spinal surgeon pal of mine (he’s retired) and he said that the decompression procedure also involves a minimal surgical procedure thru the front of the neck which would also leave that scar. The best news is that the recovery period is much shorter than either the ACDF or ADR. I wish I would have looked at this sooner. 

It’s rare. Ive done spine in training. Never seen that. Typically do decompression from back of neck 

[BillsFanSD]

12 minutes ago, Haze_21 said:

Skylar doesnt look like he belongs in the nfl. Dude is scared to throw over 10 yards downfield and also scared to scramble with wide open holes.

 

I dont love watching a blowout but ill take what is essentially a bye in the playoffs.

 

Speak for yourself!  The second half is a lot more fun when the Bills are up by 3+ scores.  

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, BillsFanSD said:

Speak for yourself!  The second half is a lot more fun when the Bills are up by 3+ scores.  

I have never had as much fun watching a football game as I did watching that WC game against the Pats last year.

[balln]

Just now, FrenchConnection said:

I have never had as much fun watching a football game as I did watching that WC game against the Pats last year.

Yea. That was epic. Forever. Right after hous playoff comeback game . Of which was my first bulls game 

[K-9]

2 minutes ago, balln said:

It’s rare. Ive done spine in training. Never seen that. Typically do decompression from back of neck 

After I read your initial post I found this article about the decompression procedure and it dovetails with my conversation with my retired surgeon friend. You might find it interesting as well.

 

https://www.spine-care-specialists.com/minimally-invasive-cervical-decompression.html

[Royale with Cheese]

17 minutes ago, Haze_21 said:

Skylar doesnt look like he belongs in the nfl. Dude is scared to throw over 10 yards downfield and also scared to scramble with wide open holes.

 

I dont love watching a blowout but ill take what is essentially a bye in the playoffs.

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This essentially is our bye.  

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I have never had as much fun watching a football game as I did watching that WC game against the Pats last year.

I still watch the recording.