NoSaint Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 10 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Someone brought up on the radio today the Bills have exactly 1 skill talent player from a cold weather state on their active roster and they really do with Jake on IR .... Gillam Florida Singletary Florida Atlantic Hines NC State Johnson Miami Cook Georgia Knox Old Miss Diggs Maryland John Brown Pittsburg State Ks Cole SMU Davis Central Florida Shakir Boise State obviously cold here Not a big deal at the nfl level but just odd the way the roster was constructed with no receivers who played in cold weather and you play in Buffalo where I went to college is definitely not where I’m from 2 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: I never understood why anyone would think it’s an advantage to have cold weather. Teams are made up of players from all over the country and from every college in the country. The Bills are as likely as the Dolphins to have players that have played in cold weather. Except we have players that are living in it, played in it this year, many the last couple years. The dolphins may see snow once every other year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Anyone have a decent clam chowder recipe? I don't even really like clam chowder but its a better topic than this. My chowder preference is not too thin. Chowder shouldn't be too soupy. It should have body and coat the mouth. Manhattan clam chowder can f@#$ right off! Manhattan clam chowder is the only chowder worth eating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 11 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Someone brought up on the radio today the Bills have exactly 1 skill talent player from a cold weather state on their active roster and they really do with Jake on IR .... Gillam Florida Singletary Florida Atlantic Hines NC State Johnson Miami Cook Georgia Knox Old Miss Diggs Maryland John Brown Pittsburg State Ks Cole SMU Davis Central Florida Shakir Boise State obviously cold here Not a big deal at the nfl level but just odd the way the roster was constructed with no receivers who played in cold weather and you play in Buffalo You obviously have not been to Kansas in November. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I remember back in the 90's that DE from Virginia with no sleeves. Forgot his name. He did pretty good in cold weather games. Just rub some Vaseline on it. It will be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 It’s more about being acclimated to the climate than where you are from. I grew up in NY.. Syracuse, and then Long Island. Moved down south nine years ago, and within two years, I was outside jogging in low 90’s as the sun set, but almost died the second the cold air hit my face for the first time back visiting fam in Cuse for the holidays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Augie said: He’s having wallet problems again, I’m afraid. Wallet so big it gave him sciatica he took it out and can’t remember where he put it. Oh, that's only his wallet? The chicks will be so disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 12 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Someone brought up on the radio today the Bills have exactly 1 skill talent player from a cold weather state on their active roster and they really do with Jake on IR .... Gillam Florida Singletary Florida Atlantic Hines NC State Johnson Miami Cook Georgia Knox Old Miss Diggs Maryland John Brown Pittsburg State Ks Cole SMU Davis Central Florida Shakir Boise State obviously cold here Not a big deal at the nfl level but just odd the way the roster was constructed with no receivers who played in cold weather and you play in Buffalo Maryland and Pittsburgh play in some cold weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 12 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Someone brought up on the radio today the Bills have exactly 1 skill talent player from a cold weather state on their active roster and they really do with Jake on IR .... Gillam Florida Singletary Florida Atlantic Hines NC State Johnson Miami Cook Georgia Knox Old Miss Diggs Maryland John Brown Pittsburg State Ks Cole SMU Davis Central Florida Shakir Boise State obviously cold here Not a big deal at the nfl level but just odd the way the roster was constructed with no receivers who played in cold weather and you play in Buffalo Maryland isn't exactly warm in November & December. Either is Kansas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Bart Starr was from Montgomery, Alabama and the University of Alabama. He did ok in Green Bay. Brett Favre is from Mississippi. I think they liked him there too. Same with California boy Aaron Rodgers. Tom Brady is from the San Francisco Bay Area. He did ok in Foxboro. Fran Tarkenton is from Georgia, but still a great Viking. Would the OP like me to go on? Because I can .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 12 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Someone brought up on the radio today the Bills have exactly 1 skill talent player from a cold weather state on their active roster and they really do with Jake on IR .... Gillam Florida Singletary Florida Atlantic Hines NC State Johnson Miami Cook Georgia Knox Old Miss Diggs Maryland John Brown Pittsburg State Ks Cole SMU Davis Central Florida Shakir Boise State obviously cold here Not a big deal at the nfl level but just odd the way the roster was constructed with no receivers who played in cold weather and you play in Buffalo Great logic. But what happened in Miami earlier this season? Shouldn’t our warm/scorching hot weather players have been accustomed to such conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 13 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Someone brought up on the radio today the Bills have exactly 1 skill talent player from a cold weather state on their active roster and they really do with Jake on IR .... Gillam Florida Singletary Florida Atlantic Hines NC State Johnson Miami Cook Georgia Knox Old Miss Diggs Maryland John Brown Pittsburg State Ks Cole SMU Davis Central Florida Shakir Boise State obviously cold here Not a big deal at the nfl level but just odd the way the roster was constructed with no receivers who played in cold weather and you play in Buffalo Reggie Gilliam is from Columbus and played at Toledo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I mean this is a solid point but just today, Josh said Knox was the #1 guy to like cold weather. Dude is wearing a tank top in freezing conditions so 17 definitely has a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 3 hours ago, BearNorth said: As I understand the rules, Miami can only use bench heaters if the Bills do. Bills 22 starters played in college at schools with a current average temperature of 44 degrees, Fish 22 starters played at schools with an current average temperature of 50 degrees, Game time temp is predicted on Saturday to be around 28 degrees. I am very unclear on this. The Pats brought temporary shade tarps. The Bills brought and used benches and AC units (mentioned by the players). I think the equity rule basically means “if the home team has 3 cooling fans, they need to provide 3 cooling fans for the away team”. I do not think it means that the teams cannot bring and use other tools within league rules. At the time I was livid. But after it has calmed down I think the actual advantage in Miami is the fact that one side of the stadium is built in shade. Without physical shade on the visitors side fans and benches are rendered basically useless. I do think the league should step in and force Miami to install a work around for physical shade without damaging sight lines when the expected heat index reaches a certain point. Or maybe even those ice vests that race car drivers wear? Something better than just dumping ice in your helmet. 3 hours ago, NoSaint said: where I went to college is definitely not where I’m from Except we have players that are living in it, played in it this year, many the last couple years. The dolphins may see snow once every other year. I am from Buffalo, but when I moved back after years in OKC, I was no longer ready for winter. I was freezing when the sun went down. These guys are barely “living in it” They show up in the fall. Move back somewhere warm right after Christmas. In a bad year they are in snow for maybe a couple weeks. The craziest part about Buffalo winters isn’t December. It’s February and March. We’ve basically barely started winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 17 hours ago, RiotAct said: Maryland gets cold too! Plus he (Diggs) grew up in NoVA/Maryland, didn’t he? The DMV most definitely gets very cold at times. Diggs is from Montgomery County Maryland. Gaithersburg if I recall correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Mango said: I am very unclear on this. The Pats brought temporary shade tarps. The Bills brought and used benches and AC units (mentioned by the players). I think the equity rule basically means “if the home team has 3 cooling fans, they need to provide 3 cooling fans for the away team”. I do not think it means that the teams cannot bring and use other tools within league rules. At the time I was livid. But after it has calmed down I think the actual advantage in Miami is the fact that one side of the stadium is built in shade. Without physical shade on the visitors side fans and benches are rendered basically useless. I do think the league should step in and force Miami to install a work around for physical shade without damaging sight lines when the expected heat index reaches a certain point. Or maybe even those ice vests that race car drivers wear? Something better than just dumping ice in your helmet. I am from Buffalo, but when I moved back after years in OKC, I was no longer ready for winter. I was freezing when the sun went down. These guys are barely “living in it” They show up in the fall. Move back somewhere warm right after Christmas. In a bad year they are in snow for maybe a couple weeks. The craziest part about Buffalo winters isn’t December. It’s February and March. We’ve basically barely started winter. they been living in it til minimum deep into January we can argue semantics but they are exposed to the weather they would play in regardless of their college team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Beane clearly needs to find more Canadian and Alaskan skill players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 22 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: Mac Jones looked defeated by the cold in that Wildcard game. Him also sucking at football probably didn’t help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 12 hours ago, SCBills said: It’s more about being acclimated to the climate than where you are from. I grew up in NY.. Syracuse, and then Long Island. Moved down south nine years ago, and within two years, I was outside jogging in low 90’s as the sun set, but almost died the second the cold air hit my face for the first time back visiting fam in Cuse for the holidays. I agree, I can adjust to warm weather easily, and quite enjoy it, but I think everyone is different. I’ve been in WNY my entire life, and can’t stand the cold, while I’ve known native southerners who complained about the heat quite often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 23 hours ago, bmur66 said: I don't think the cold, snowy weather is much of an advantage for the Bills anymore. They just deal with like the visiting teams. It is because they can practice in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 17 hours ago, ddaryl said: because it adds another billion to construction costs.... we are already using more taxpayer money than other teams do for the stadium.. You want to sell that one to Joe and Jane public? So it’s worth using tax payer money to build a stadium that’s used for 20 games a year? Build a truly useful year round complex and bring concerts etc in to give the economy a real boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Beane built this team to win the Super Bowl knowing that he needed players used to playing the game in warm weather and/or indoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 On 12/14/2022 at 8:50 AM, 78thealltimegreat said: Someone brought up on the radio today the Bills have exactly 1 skill talent player from a cold weather state on their active roster and they really do with Jake on IR .... Gillam Florida Singletary Florida Atlantic Hines NC State Johnson Miami Cook Georgia Knox Old Miss Diggs Maryland John Brown Pittsburg State Ks Cole SMU Davis Central Florida Shakir Boise State obviously cold here Not a big deal at the nfl level but just odd the way the roster was constructed with no receivers who played in cold weather and you play in Buffalo Huh? NFL you draft the most talented guys regardless of region. What you’re saying is we should’ve focused on bringing in more players from up north and the Midwest? I swear people wanna find anything to have an issue with smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: Huh? NFL you draft the most talented guys regardless of region. What you’re saying is we should’ve focused on bringing in more players from up north and the Midwest? I swear people wanna find anything to have an issue with smh The jets had no problem catching the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBills51 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I don't think where they want to college or grew up has any bearing on how they will play in the cold. The Bills played a perfect game in one of the coldest games in NFL history last year, but that night had little wind and no snow. The issue I see with the current Bills roster is during windy and snow/sleet games. We are built to throw the ball and not ground and pound which is why we lost the game last year to the Patriots the first time. Fortunately for us the Dolphins aren't built to pound the ball either. I could see Saturday being a low scoring game with Josh being the x-factor with his running ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DCofNC said: So it’s worth using tax payer money to build a stadium that’s used for 20 games a year? Build a truly useful year round complex and bring concerts etc in to give the economy a real boost. https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardmcgahey/2022/03/29/buffalos-billion-dollar-tax-fumble/?sh=103d00c4516f Quote But what about team-specific economic impacts? An analysis done for the state estimated the Bills produce “nearly $27 million annually in total tax revenues to the City, County, and State combined.” But 73% of those projected annual revenues are income taxes “primarily related to Bills team payroll.” It doesn’t seem like a good deal to spend over $800 million in state and city tax revenues to recoup $27 million a year from the team payroll. it wasn't ever going to happen and it wasn't ever going to be pushed for because it cost a $Billion more.. regardless of what you said a billion in profits for the state was not going to happen with a dome added.... The Bills alone generate $27 million annually...That $27 million is already tied to the cost of the no dome stadium 27 million times 25 years = 675 million SO lets say we add the dome at cost of $1 billion more. How many events would it take to recoup the cost of investment. Even if a dome only cost $500 million more do the math. 65,000 people (projected stadium capacity plus floor for concerts) you can argue the additonal taxes from bars, food, shopping in preperation, parking, gas might add more to the revenue but it won't be enough to offset the cost to taxpayers, whom many were against what we did spend.... And in regards to concerts there is no payroll income tax that matches what the BIlls pay so you would have to have multiple major events a month to come close to producing the tax revenue that would justify the investment. Now you understand fully why we did not get a dome. There is NO justification finacially, and we barely got justfication for what we are building. Edited December 15, 2022 by ddaryl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 not surprising....most elite players prefer warm weather colleges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: The jets had no problem catching the ball Garrett Wilson - Austin, TX Elijah Moore - Fort Lauderdale, FL Denzel Mims - Daingerfield, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Per JA, Knox loves playing in the cold without sleeves, so there’s that? 🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 It is pretty irrelevant as most Bills players have played 2-3 years or more in Buffalo in the elements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 You get accustomed to wherever you are. As someone who has been out of the WNY area for a number of years, that cold tolerance I used to have has largely disappeared. It's not a lifelong thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 3 hours ago, streetkings01 said: Garrett Wilson - Austin, TX Elijah Moore - Fort Lauderdale, FL Denzel Mims - Daingerfield, TX Garrett played at Ohio State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Garrett played at Ohio State As has been said repeatedly…most college teams play at most ONE cold weather game per year. Their season ended a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: As has been said repeatedly…most college teams play at most ONE cold weather game per year. Their season ended a few weeks ago. And Garrett played at Ohio state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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