Baker Mayfield is really Joe Pendleton

[Greg S]

If Carr doesn't throw that terrible INT in the endzone then nobody is singing the praises of Mayfield. The Rams offense was crap for most of the game. Credit to them for making the plays in crunch time. Despite it being at Sofi it looked like the Raiders were the home team. Stands looked mostly silver and black.

[MJS]

2 hours ago, Irish Dave said:

OK, I know 'boomer' is used in fun.   I've been getting called a boomer by guys in their 20s & 30s for years now.   I'm 52 and only too happy to talk Bills football with anybody from any generation.  What makes me crazy is the term "Boomer" somewhere along the line started getting used in the wrong way!!   It comes from "Baby Booomers" who were all born in the mid 1940s/late '50s I think.  That's what we used to call our parents.  So at some point the term started getting used to just lump all Older people into one  category I guess.  So the guys who got the 'Heaven can wait' reference are largely Gen X, I guess?      So - QUESTION for guys in their 20s:  If an older guy 'gets it wrong' and calls you a millenial or a Gen z'er or whatever, does it annoy you? 

I'm technically a millennial, but I find it highly disrespectful for people to make fun of and deride the baby boomer generation, personally. I think it is one of the more cringeworthy and childish things people do on the internet these days. Is it so much to ask for people to show kindness and respect to the generations that came before us? I guess so.

[JDubya76]

Nice call, I have thought about that movie in 40 years

[C.Biscuit97]

Good for him. I think this says more about the Raiders. What an embarrassing loss. Carr is dollar store Kirk Cousins and McDaniels should pay Brady 75% of his salary because he sucks as a head coach. Complete fraud. 

[Mango]

10 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said:

Raiders always find new ways to lose games all the time, but gotta give Baker credit...Magical night for him.

 

I turned it off  at halftime last night. But thought the first half was weird. He was something like 3/4 and 70 yards. No single big play boosting the stats. Just 3 20+ yard receptions. The Rams ran a total of like 15 plays in the first half. 

The replay of that 98 yard drive! I am less concerned with the comeback itself. He was throwing dimes to receivers he just met 48 hours ago into really tight windows. It was an impressive showing as a passer, win or lose. 

[Billsatlastin2018]

I’m not a Faker fan, but that little Q4 rally- was impressive!

 

Of course,when the zoned in touts, give kudos to Baker & Brady, they neglect or fail to headline,the real reason why their teams win.

 

In the case of both- the brain dead stupidity of the opposing team.

 

In Tampa’s case, the WTF moment came when the Saints WR cut the route short and deliberately went OOB one yard short of the First Down marker, up 16-3 and @ 5:31. Causing an unsuccessful 3rd. and 1 and a Saints punt. TWO minutes of clock were lost there, even if NO goes 3 and out.

 

Catastrophically stupid!

 

And then, there’s last night. Ignoring sub standard Carr’s 5 yard INT into the End Zone, focus on the rushed for no reason, clock running, 3rd. and 1. An ex Billsy type of execution!

 

Or the Neutral Zone Penalty on 4th. & 5.

 

Followed by equal Moron of the Year play… getting a PF, AFTER you have sacked the QB at the 16 (2nd & 19) and the clock is RUNNING! 🤪🙄

 

THAT clown should have to walk back to Vegas… or 180 into the Pacific!!

 

God, I detest stupid, selfish, football players! Thankfully, McD has eliminated that nonsense from the Bills.

[eball]

57 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Rams needed a QB. Who available was better than Mayfield?

The Rams and 49ers are bitter rivals. The Rams wanted McCaffrey and lost out to SF. Don’t for a moment think this move wasn’t made knowing how it would prevent the 49ers from getting a guy who could save their season. 

The Rams did need a QB but they also know they aren’t winning another SB this year. 
 

[Greg S]

Did he and his wife move into Sofi yet?

[Thurman#1]

7 hours ago, Utah John said:

I had forgotten about that great old movie.  But Mayfield was wearing number 17, not 16.  

 

 

Charles Grodin was an absolute national treasure!!!

[Chaos]

14 minutes ago, eball said:

The Rams and 49ers are bitter rivals. The Rams wanted McCaffrey and lost out to SF. Don’t for a moment think this move wasn’t made knowing how it would prevent the 49ers from getting a guy who could save their season. 

The Rams did need a QB but they also know they aren’t winning another SB this year. 
 

There is no circumstance where the rams pass on mayfield.  It’s just silly to think they did it out of spite.  

[Shaw66]

9 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

70's classic 👍 

 

Man I'm old, brings me back. 

Just watched it the other night.  Love it. 

[Shaw66]

24 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

I’m not a Faker fan, but that little Q4 rally- was impressive!

 

Of course,when the zoned in touts, give kudos to Baker & Brady, they neglect or fail to headline,the real reason why their teams win.

 

In the case of both- the brain dead stupidity of the opposing team.

 

In Tampa’s case, the WTF moment came when the Saints WR cut the route short and deliberately went OOB one yard short of the First Down marker, up 16-3 and @ 5:31. Causing an unsuccessful 3rd. and 1 and a Saints punt. TWO minutes of clock were lost there, even if NO goes 3 and out.

 

Catastrophically stupid!

 

 

In the Saints game, the guy ran out of bounds because he was injured.   He immediately went to the ground.  Still, a tough guy would have held it together to get that yard, but I give him a pass on that.  But then, on third and one, they passed!   Run the ball, get the first down or not, but force the Bucs to take a timeout.  Then, on the next possession, second and seven, Dalton goes back to pass and gets sacked!   So, now they're third and 17 and they pass incomplete.   Run on second down, force a timeout.   Run on third and seven or less, force another timeout and maybe get the first down.  It was just so obvious in both situations, and yet the Saints were fiddling around trying to throw the ball.   They gave up two chances to get a first down AND they saved two timeouts for the Bucs.   Really, really dumb. 

[eball]

19 minutes ago, Chaos said:

There is no circumstance where the rams pass on mayfield.  It’s just silly to think they did it out of spite.  

We’ll agree to disagree. 
 

[BillsShredder83]

10 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Amazing game by Mayfield on 2 days, but Man! Did the Raiders play stupid on D and give them chance after chance.

 

Isn’t that sort of the story of Mayfield, though?  Can play brilliantly, then somehow can’t play within a system?

It’ll be interesting to see what McVay gets out of him for the next 4 weeks

Stupid is right. LA had 2 dudes absolutely cruuunch baker on 2nd down, for what certainly looked like a game ending sack at the time.

 

Then some moron uninvolved in the play smacked the ball directly in front of the ref to give them a 1st

[Utah John]

4 hours ago, Irish Dave said:

OK, I know 'boomer' is used in fun.   I've been getting called a boomer by guys in their 20s & 30s for years now.   I'm 52 and only too happy to talk Bills football with anybody from any generation.  What makes me crazy is the term "Boomer" somewhere along the line started getting used in the wrong way!!   It comes from "Baby Booomers" who were all born in the mid 1940s/late '50s I think.  That's what we used to call our parents.  So at some point the term started getting used to just lump all Older people into one  category I guess.  So the guys who got the 'Heaven can wait' reference are largely Gen X, I guess?      So - QUESTION for guys in their 20s:  If an older guy 'gets it wrong' and calls you a millenial or a Gen z'er or whatever, does it annoy you? 

The baby boomers are those born from 1946 to 1964.

4 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I am not a Mayfield fan but it's pretty funny should he play well for the Rams 

The Patriots and Jets have no real Quarterback and both teams passed.  A simple waiver claim could have changed everything in the AFC East.

I am not saying Mayfield will be any good but he could be 

I bet a lot of fans in NFL cities will be crying this morning, WHY DIDN'T WE CLAIM MAYFIELD????

The Rams would have had preference over almost any other team because of their poor record.  

[Utah John]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

I'm technically a millennial, but I find it highly disrespectful for people to make fun of and deride the baby boomer generation, personally. I think it is one of the more cringeworthy and childish things people do on the internet these days. Is it so much to ask for people to show kindness and respect to the generations that came before us? I guess so.

As a boomer myself, I think some of the boomer criticism and resentment comes from the fact that we've set things up so we have most of the wealth and the disposable income and the power, and younger generations are struggling to break into the system.  Also because we along with previous generations have wrecked the environment and created an international political system that looks threatening to younger people. 

1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Charles Grodin was an absolute national treasure!!!

Grodin in Midnight Run with Robert DeNiro was amazing.  Also he was brilliant in Dave with Kevin Kline.  I think he was always best when he could pair up with another strong lead, so his reaction to what was happening could say so much.  

[Billsatlastin2018]

1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

In the Saints game, the guy ran out of bounds because he was injured.   He immediately went to the ground.  Still, a tough guy would have held it together to get that yard, but I give him a pass on that.  But then, on third and one, they passed!   Run the ball, get the first down or not, but force the Bucs to take a timeout.  Then, on the next possession, second and seven, Dalton goes back to pass and gets sacked!   So, now they're third and 17 and they pass incomplete.   Run on second down, force a timeout.   Run on third and seven or less, force another timeout and maybe get the first down.  It was just so obvious in both situations, and yet the Saints were fiddling around trying to throw the ball.   They gave up two chances to get a first down AND they saved two timeouts for the Bucs.   Really, really dumb. 

He was injured. But, he wasn’t going to be hit, Shaw. To not go that one more yard was inexcusable. I agree with all the other idiotic Saint plays. Still, Daulton threw a 25 yard Allen- Diggs dart on that 3rd. & 17, that wasn’t dropped by a rookie. Believe it was Kamara.

[TheFunPolice]

2 hours ago, Greg S said:

If Carr doesn't throw that terrible INT in the endzone then nobody is singing the praises of Mayfield. The Rams offense was crap for most of the game. Credit to them for making the plays in crunch time. Despite it being at Sofi it looked like the Raiders were the home team. Stands looked mostly silver and black.

 

This sounds like me after every Brady comeback. 

 

IF the scrawny old man gets credit for beating the 4-9 Saints prevent defense (with a well timed DPI, of course!), then Baker gets credit.

 

BAKER MAGIC!

 

IF Baker puts some good film together, I wonder if the Rams might trade Stafford to try to recoup a pick?

Edited December 9, 2022 by TheFunPolice

[MJS]

3 minutes ago, Utah John said:

As a boomer myself, I think some of the boomer criticism and resentment comes from the fact that we've set things up so we have most of the wealth and the disposable income and the power, and younger generations are struggling to break into the system.  Also because we along with previous generations have wrecked the environment and created an international political system that looks threatening to younger people. 

Uh, no. Almost every single climate saving technology and advancement has come from research and development by baby boomer entrepreneurs and scientists. Every advancement in civil rights since the 1960's has come from baby boomer leaders, politicians, and activists.

 

And that's how wealth, leadership, and innovation work. You grow older, you get more wealthy as you get more experience, you gain more leadership opportunities, and then you retire and the next generation takes over. That's how it has always worked and how it will continue to work for the rest of time.

 

Millenials are now taking over in wealth and leadership as we are now reaching a point where we have lots of experience in our fields and experience managing people. It's the normal progression of life.

 

No baby boomer should feel the need to debase themselves like this.

[Fleezoid]

Great movie, but a horrible premise! Everthing until the end is good. 

 

Spoiler alert:

 

They mistakenly kill Joe Pendleton then bring him back to find him a new body. His new body is ultimately QB Tom Jarrett, but at the end, they kill off Joe again when he actually becomes Tom Jarrett. Everything about Joe is gone....music, memory....everything. Terrible premise. 

 

[MJS]

3 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

Great movie, but a horrible premise! Everthing until the end is good. 

 

Spoiler alert:

 

They mistakenly kill Joe Pendleton then bring him back to find him a new body. His new body is ultimately QB Tom Jarrett, but at the end, they kill off Joe again when he actually becomes Tom Jarrett. Everything about Joe is gone....music, memory....everything. Terrible premise. 

 

NOOO!!! You spoiled it for me!

[Billsatlastin2018]

2 hours ago, MJS said:

I'm technically a millennial, but I find it highly disrespectful for people to make fun of and deride the baby boomer generation, personally. I think it is one of the more cringeworthy and childish things people do on the internet these days. Is it so much to ask for people to show kindness and respect to the generations that came before us? I guess so.

As one, I appreciate this.

 

But in addition, it always amazes me that millennials think that older people don’t know shite! I find the reverse is true… on virtually any knowledge subject- history, sports, politics, business, younger people’s comprehension of these appears to be the last 15 minutes!

 

Meaning? They have not Clue One why things are the way they are today, let alone the advances of human history that took place to get us there.

 

Miles Davis, Valentina Tereshkova or  Kenny Washington… they simply don’t know! Worse, they assume that older people have not experienced- personally, people, places events and things around the planet.

[MJS]

6 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

As one, I appreciate this.

 

But in addition, it always amazes me that millennials think that older people don’t know shite! I find the reverse is true… on virtually any knowledge subject- history, sports, politics, business, younger people’s comprehension of these appears to be the last 15 minutes!

 

Meaning? They have not Clue One why things are the way they are today, let alone the advances of human history that took place to get us there.

 

Miles Davis, Valentina Tereshkova or  Kenny Washington… they simply don’t know! Worse, they assume that older people have not experienced- personally, people, places events and things around the planet.

Part of the problem is a complete lack of understanding in the advancement of society over the past 100 years in the United States (and the world). The mind-boggling changes that the older generations have seen. The complete shift in average standard of living. My great grandfather, who I knew before he died a few years ago, went through the great depression and WWII, and he experienced real struggle in survival and standard of living. Even in my lifetime seeing the rapid rise of computers and technology. It's insane. It's incredible the younger generations can stoop to blame and derision for anyone who had to endure that vast change in their lifetimes.

 

I know I'm not the typical millenial,  and I fully understand that each generation has their own collective failures, but I really admire and respect those who came before and paved the way for a bright future for all of us. There are always bumps along the road.

 

People don't think about the struggle that the baby boomers went through. Their parents were ravaged by war and the great depression. Their fathers had PTSD and physical trauma from the war. It takes many generations for a society to recover from mental trauma like that. And still they were able to do great things.

[Jerome007]

OK. So explain to me how systems are so complex that new players need weeks to learn them, yet Mayfield, a QB who runs the system (!!!!), can do so in 2 days?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

5 hours ago, LewPort71 said:

Heaven Can Wait is one of my favorite movies.

All you young whippersnappers should watch it sometime.

Tremendous cast. 

 

Some of these 'young whippersnappers' are so unhip, it's a wonder their asses don't fall off...🤨

(Thank you, Douglas Adams)

Edited December 9, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[babulator]

I can't help myself but root for him now. He's a character and I think the NFL is better with a productive Mayfield. Good for him,  I don't mind seeing him playing spoiler coming down the stretch ,

[947]

I'm sure other teams wanted Mayfield, but most thought he'd clear waivers & try to sign him for the vet minimum instead of picking up his contract.

[DrBob806]

16 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Amazing game by Mayfield on 2 days, but Man! Did the Raiders play stupid on D and give them chance after chance.

 

Isn’t that sort of the story of Mayfield, though?  Can play brilliantly, then somehow can’t play within a system?

It’ll be interesting to see what McVay gets out of him for the next 4 weeks

OBJ was "the system" that sabotaged him, along with Baker himself lol

[ExiledInIllinois]

14 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Baker is his own worst enemy … he was the josh Allen story before josh … walk on … earned a STARTING JOB  as a walk on true freshmen 

 

wasn’t given a scholarship(which is asinine) gambled on himself and WALKED ON again at Oklahoma 

 

and became a heisman winner and campus legend  … his work ethic COULD NOT be questioned then…

 

he has a very strong arm , great ball placement and a quick release .,, and is tough af 

 

somewhere along the way he drank his own kool aid and his cockiness has stunted his growth as a player … maybe he finally wakes up 

Too short.

4 hours ago, MJS said:

NOOO!!! You spoiled it for me!

You're supposed to stop reading after: "Spoiler Alert"

 

😉 

[Buffalo716]

9 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Too short.

You're supposed to stop reading after: "Spoiler Alert"

 

😉

He’s 6’0 

 

not ideal but not too short 

 

flutie and Murray are 5’8

[Southern_Bills]

I feel like as long as Baker is told he is trash, he's great. When he gets a little love it's all over.

 

Kinda like Kenny Powers lol.

[Shaw66]

9 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

He was injured. But, he wasn’t going to be hit, Shaw. To not go that one more yard was inexcusable. I agree with all the other idiotic Saint plays. Still, Daulton threw a 25 yard Allen- Diggs dart on that 3rd. & 17, that wasn’t dropped by a rookie. Believe it was Kamara.

Oh, I agree, by NFL tough guy standards, he should have gotten to the stick, injured or not.  All I'm really saying is that by ordinary human being standards, I wasn't surprised that he lost his concentration.  

 

Dalton wasn't great - and taking the sack was inexcusable, but he didn't lose it.  I don't complain a lot about clock management, but the clock management unquestionably cost them the game.  It was downright amateurish.  

[Fleezoid]

5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Too short.

You're supposed to stop reading after: "Spoiler Alert"

 

😉

 

True. But sometimes it's hard to stop. It's like me when I go to the sports bar to watch Bills games. I'll order a huge platter of loaded nachos. it'll arrive, and I'll tell my friends, 'No way I can finish this.'  By half time the waitress is taking the empty platter away, and I look like this....

 

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by Fleezoid

[ArtVandalay]

20 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Baker is his own worst enemy … he was the josh Allen story before josh … walk on … earned a STARTING JOB  as a walk on true freshmen 

 

wasn’t given a scholarship(which is asinine) gambled on himself and WALKED ON again at Oklahoma 

 

and became a heisman winner and campus legend  … his work ethic COULD NOT be questioned then…

 

he has a very strong arm , great ball placement and a quick release .,, and is tough af 

 

somewhere along the way he drank his own kool aid and his cockiness has stunted his growth as a player … maybe he finally wakes up 

LOL that's some revionist history...

 

The real story is he had multiple Division I scholarships to pick from, he just chose not to take them, he didn't need a scholarship to attend college so he walked on at Texas Tech because he wanted to go there, when he lost the starting job he cried and complained and left and then walked on at risk Oklahoma without even telling the football team he was going there. TT had a guy named Patrick Mahomes waiting in the wings and he tucked his tail and bolted. 

 

He's a spoiled little frat boy brat and fake tough guy who cries like a baby at the sign of trouble (see multiple press conferences in college and his arrest video).

 

He's an absolute turd and his failure is so enjoyable to watch. Sometimes the universe gets it right. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

21 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Baker is his own worst enemy … he was the josh Allen story before josh … walk on … earned a STARTING JOB  as a walk on true freshmen 

 

wasn’t given a scholarship(which is asinine) gambled on himself and WALKED ON again at Oklahoma 

 

and became a heisman winner and campus legend  … his work ethic COULD NOT be questioned then…

 

he has a very strong arm , great ball placement and a quick release .,, and is tough af 

 

somewhere along the way he drank his own kool aid and his cockiness has stunted his growth as a player … maybe he finally wakes up 

Loved Baker's swagger, man. Def a guy I wanted as a Bill and thought he was gonna be the guy. Thank God i wasn't the GM

[Freddie's Dead]

23 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I felt like I was watching “Heaven Can Wait” tonight.  
 

that was a great comeback. 

 

But did he do Julie Christie after the game?

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said:

LOL that's some revionist history...

 

The real story is he had multiple Division I scholarships to pick from, he just chose not to take them, he didn't need a scholarship to attend college so he walked on at Texas Tech because he wanted to go there, when he lost the starting job he cried and complained and left and then walked on at risk Oklahoma without even telling the football team he was going there. TT had a guy named Patrick Mahomes waiting in the wings and he tucked his tail and bolted. 

 

He's a spoiled little frat boy brat and fake tough guy who cries like a baby at the sign of trouble (see multiple press conferences in college and his arrest video).

 

He's an absolute turd and his failure is so enjoyable to watch. Sometimes the universe gets it right. 

I never said he didn’t have any offers 

 

He could’ve went to a mid major but bet On himself and his talents

 

There’s not one other walk on who Started at quarterback at a major program As a true freshman majority of season … That’s not revisionist history..

 

Texas tech wasn’t willing to give him a scholarship after and that’s asinine  … He won the job as a true freshman in the Big12 as a walk on… Even if Patrick Mahomes is better that’s worth a scholarship 100% of the time

 

That’s a fact

 

And That doesn’t mean Baker would be a superstar in the NFL… But absolutely has way more talent than to be a journeyman at this point… And should’ve been given a scholarship by Texas Tech

 

It’s OK if Baker stole your girlfriend.. His story and joshes are certainly among the greatest ever in college sports

 

 

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by Buffalo716

[Captain_Quint]

[Spiderweb]

On 12/8/2022 at 11:41 PM, RiotAct said:

who??

Warren Beatty movie...

[Locomark]

Joe won the Super Bowl. Baker won a game….