Marquez Stevenson Released (update 12/10 - signed to Bills PS)

[WideNine]

6 minutes ago, wjag said:

Boetteger?

 

I thought he was seen practicing on 11/9.

 

I think they had a 21 day practice window to decide if they were going to promote him to the 53.

 

A bit slow on the announcement or had to move someone?

 

 

 

[Bubba Gump]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

Or more likely Dallas is leaking the information for their own strategic reasons. 

 

I wouldn't put that past Jerruh, but just watching OBJ gimping around while arriving at the Giants facility is a bit worrisome.

[FilthyBeast]

2 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Did you just realize that Stevenson isn’t good enough to crack the WR group on this team?

 

If you are talking about competing with the likes of Diggs and Davis, then of course not.

 

But if this guy isn't good enough to beat out a guy like McKenzie for playing time or a roster spot then yes it was a waste. Also trying to figure out what happened to shakir after a promising start.

 

Either way WR is one of the weakest unit's overall on this team and if something happens to Diggs or Davis it would be pretty ugly.

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Gross.

 

WR is another position that Beane has whiffed big with draft picks vs. FA signings.

 

Maybe they truly are all in on OBJ landing in OBD.

 

Yes...because 6th round flyers on WR's always pan out for other teams right?

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Yep.  Stefon Diggs, Cole Beasley and John Brown did nothing here.  I can't believe Stefon Diggs is still on the team.

 

As I said, he's whiffed on draft picks at the position (like oline) vs FA signings.

 

At some point though you do have to draft quality players at various positions and not just rely on FA help or you aren't very good at your job. If Davis pans out it's a different story but still TBD whether or not he's more than just a #3 type of WR that can make big plays occassionally.

[FLFan]

3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Yep.  Stefon Diggs, Cole Beasley and John Brown did nothing here.  I can't believe Stefon Diggs is still on the team.

Don’t bother.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

12 minutes ago, wjag said:

Boetteger?

No, a Stiegl and a liverwurst and onion on caraway rye for me, please.

[17islongenough]

I thought he had a chance to be put on the 53.  I'm curious on what they will do with that spot

[JDHillFan]

3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

As I said, he's whiffed on draft picks at the position (like oline) vs FA signings.

 

At some point though you do have to draft quality players at various positions and not just rely on FA help or you aren't very good at your job. If Davis pans out it's a different story but still TBD whether or not he's more than just a #3 type of WR that can make big plays occassionally.

Beane is HORRIBLE 

[Process]

14 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I feel bad for him to be honest. I just saw something on the Athletic about how he was looking forward to getting back on the field.  That being said, I am not at all surprised. I was expecting an injury settlement. I wonder if he is headed to the practice squad. 

He's a lock for the practice squad. If he's not on our PS that means another team signed him. It's not like his career is over.

[ngbills]

So much for the he will be the secret impact player only a few suspected.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

He has no role, and was never as fast as advertised. 

 

Shi Smith would have been a better WR in the 6th Round. 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Straight Hucklebuck

[Royale with Cheese]

6 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

As I said, he's whiffed on draft picks at the position (like oline) vs FA signings.

 

At some point though you do have to draft quality players at various positions and not just rely on FA help or you aren't very good at your job. If Davis pans out it's a different story but still TBD whether or not he's more than just a #3 type of WR that can make big plays occassionally.

 

Yeah, Beane will be measured by whether or not Davis pans out.  A 4th round WR means that much to his legacy.

[H2o]

5 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

As I said, he's whiffed on draft picks at the position (like oline) vs FA signings.

 

At some point though you do have to draft quality players at various positions and not just rely on FA help or you aren't very good at your job. If Davis pans out it's a different story but still TBD whether or not he's more than just a #3 type of WR that can make big plays occassionally.

So....................... He's "whiffed" on draft picks, and we have a SB contending roster, but because it isn't all from the draft then he's bad at his job? 

[Logic]

I have seen nothing -- not one thing -- to suggest to me that Stevenson is an NFL level player.

Even his nickname doesn't check out. They call him "speedy", but he runs a 4.45. That's fast, no doubt, but it's not SPECIAL fast. It's not so fast that you're calling him "Speedy".

Even then, it seems to be buildup speed. He doesn't have much quick-twitch or instant acceleration. He also seems to have trouble actually CATCHING the ball. He wasn't a particularly dangerous or trustworthy looking return man when he got the shot last year.

All in all, he's good for maybe some go balls, and that's about it.

Practice squad sounds right. One more year to work and develop and see if he can stick as a special teams ace or something.

[BruceVilanch]

28 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

We don't EXACTLY know that, do we?  I mean, there are a number of things one could release when getting bad news.

[HOUSE]

24 minutes ago, wppete said:

No harm done. He hasn’t done a thing for the bills in almost 3 years? Hopefully we sign OBJ or Beasley. Cheap deal for either of them or no thanks. 

I believe Beasley is still the property of the Tampa Bay Bucks. They would need to release him first.

[Augie]

15 minutes ago, FLFan said:

Don’t bother.  

 

Some folks are just on “manual ignore” for me. 

[jlgarsh]

23 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

LMAO!! 

 

I have always said I have never seen a player run into his own blockers as frequently as Stevenson did and that it was an adventure with him because of how weird and unexpectedly he got hit on some of those plays you wondered how he didn't fumble and managed to hold onto the ball...

Zach Moss LOL

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I believe Beasley is still the property of the Tampa Bay Bucks. They would need to release him first.

The Bucs terminated this contract the day after he "retired." 

 

https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/06/nfl-news-cole-beasley-tampa-bay-buccaneers-retired-contract-terminated-practice-squad/

[FilthyBeast]

5 minutes ago, H2o said:

So....................... He's "whiffed" on draft picks, and we have a SB contending roster, but because it isn't all from the draft then he's bad at his job? 

 

You have to hit on draft picks consistently or you'll find yourself in a bad salary cap situation like this team coincidentally is next year because of all the big money FA contracts we've handed out to FA's to compensate for said bad drafts.

 

This is just the reality of the situation and why a team like KC is position so well for the near and long term because Veach continues to crush each draft and hit on both high and low draft picks.

 

No Beane is not terrible, but he's really just average even with striking gold on JA17 and the real reason this team is where they are now.

[strive_for_five_guy]

10 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

If you are talking about competing with the likes of Diggs and Davis, then of course not.

 

But if this guy isn't good enough to beat out a guy like McKenzie for playing time or a roster spot then yes it was a waste. Also trying to figure out what happened to shakir after a promising start.

 

Either way WR is one of the weakest unit's overall on this team and if something happens to Diggs or Davis it would be pretty ugly.

I don’t disagree that if Diggs gets hurt, our WR room takes a huge hit.  I guess I had always looked at Stevenson as a flier, and when Shakir was drafted, we had already found an “upgrade” (not saying much).  So I’d already accepted that he was a 6th round miss.  

I’m still hopeful that Shakir can eventually develop a role in the offense, but he’s definitely not where I figured he’d be by this point in the season.  Whether Shakir and Davis show further signs of development or not, I do think the Bills need to find another WR weapon in next year’s draft.

[WideNine]

16 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Beane is HORRIBLE 

 

Beane is cheap.

 

 

[Big Turk]

4 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I believe Beasley is still the property of the Tampa Bay Bucks. They would need to release him first.

 

He was on their practice squad so no they wouldn't, unless he was signed to the active roster.

[eball]

1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

No Beane is not terrible, but he's really just average even with striking gold on JA17 and the real reason this team is where they are now.

 

Go try and sell some of that s-h-i-t on the street and you might get shot.

 

Geez, man...even for you.

 

[Rochesterfan]

People have got this so convoluted- He was not on the 53 - so this move does not preclude anything.

 

The Bills activated him from IR and today was the last day to decide to put him on IR or the Roster.  
 

If they wanted him on the Roster they would have needed to cut someone, since there were no additional injuries last week.

 

Therefore, the easiest thing to do is cut him and resign him to the PS if he makes it and then you can activate him if needed.  IR finished his season anyway - so there is no difference if he waived and claimed or IRd for this season.

 

The difference is he may make it to the PS in case of injury - or we lose him for nothing, but I think it is a chance they can take without worry because he is not roster worthy when this team is healthy.

 

 

[HOUSE]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

He was on their practice squad so no they wouldn't, unless he was signed to the active roster.

I believe he was activated then retired

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Beasley

Edited December 6, 2022 by HOUSE

[DCofNC]

Well that settles it, a non-contributing member of the Wr core has been released, clearly OBJ is on his way. 
 

What on earth anybody has seen from this kid to believe he was going to contribute this year (or ever) is beyond me.  I know Bills fans love their late round “gems”, but this guy runs fast in gym shorts, that’s it.   Maybe he can develop into something, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

[JGMcD2]

5 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

You have to hit on draft picks consistently or you'll find yourself in a bad salary cap situation like this team coincidentally is next year because of all the big money FA contracts we've handed out to FA's to compensate for said bad drafts.

 

This is just the reality of the situation and why a team like KC is position so well for the near and long term because Veach continues to crush each draft and hit on both high and low draft picks.

 

No Beane is not terrible, but he's really just average even with striking gold on JA17 and the real reason this team is where they are now.

There have been numerous posts/comparisons/deep dives/data that just don't match up with the bull#### you spew.

 

Show some facts and not opinions.

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, eball said:

 

Go try and sell some of that s-h-i-t on the street and you might get shot.

 

Geez, man...even for you.

 

 

I'm grateful for what this regime has done but anything short of a SB win at this point and it's time to move on.

 

Should they accomplish that in the next few years (because they won't be here beyond that if they don't contrary to belief otherwise) I'll slurp me some of the good stuff like some other posters here choose to.

 

At the end of the day though we need focus on the bigger picture beyond a wasted 7th round WR draft pick. And getting back on topic it's puzzling he's now gone unless it's to make room for another certain player at that position.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

RIP, buddy. He is off running into the big brick wall in the sky. 
 

[JGMcD2]

10 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

You have to hit on draft picks consistently or you'll find yourself in a bad salary cap situation like this team coincidentally is next year because of all the big money FA contracts we've handed out to FA's to compensate for said bad drafts.

7/10 highest cap hits on the Bills as we speak today are players drafted by this regime. Allen, White, Edmunds, Dawkins, Oliver, Milano and Johnson. 

 

The 3 who weren't draft picks are Diggs, Morse and Poyer... 

 

What are you talking about?

[Logic]

12 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

This is just the reality of the situation and why a team like KC is position so well for the near and long term because Veach continues to crush each draft and hit on both high and low draft picks.

 

No Beane is not terrible, but he's really just average even with striking gold on JA17 and the real reason this team is where they are now.

Tremon Smith and Khalil McKenzie are crucial to the Chiefs' playoff push this year. Darwin Thompson and Nick Alligretti are really killing it for them. Michael Danna and Thakarius Keyes are paramount to their success.

Oh wait, those are a bunch of nobodies. 

The hit rate from round 5 onward is awful for every team, including the Chiefs.

People have unrealistic expectations of what constitutes a good draft. Typically, if you can get 3-4 contributing players from each draft, you're doing great. Those that expect GMs to hit on every pick from round 1 to 7 every year simply don't know what they're looking at.

Edited December 6, 2022 by Logic

[DCbillsfan]

13 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

People have got this so convoluted- He was not on the 53 - so this move does not preclude anything.

 

The Bills activated him from IR and today was the last day to decide to put him on IR or the Roster.  
 

If they wanted him on the Roster they would have needed to cut someone, since there were no additional injuries last week.

 

Therefore, the easiest thing to do is cut him and resign him to the PS if he makes it and then you can activate him if needed.  IR finished his season anyway - so there is no difference if he waived and claimed or IRd for this season.

 

The difference is he may make it to the PS in case of injury - or we lose him for nothing, but I think it is a chance they can take without worry because he is not roster worthy when this team is healthy.

 

 

The Bills put Miller on IR on 12/1.  I didn't see a corresponding move so I believe the Bills have 1 roster spot available.  I agree with your post above.

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I'm grateful for what this regime has done but anything short of a SB win at this point and it's time to move on.

 

Should they accomplish that in the next few years (because they won't be here beyond that if they don't contrary to belief otherwise) I'll slurp me some of the good stuff like some other posters here choose to.

 

At the end of the day though we need focus on the bigger picture beyond a wasted 7th round WR draft pick. And getting back on topic it's puzzling he's now gone unless it's to make room for another certain player at that position.

 

Do you promise?   😋

 

 

.

Edited December 6, 2022 by Augie

[rusty shackleford]

16 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I believe Beasley is still the property of the Tampa Bay Bucks. They would need to release him first.

Pretty sure organizations can't consider their employees property anymore.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Making room for another WR👀

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said:

There have been numerous posts/comparisons/deep dives/data that just don't match up with the bull#### you spew.

 

Show some facts and not opinions.

 

I've done it over and over and just get flamed for it. Would also like to see this deep dive data again since I'm not stubborn and close minded.

 

But like I said take away JA17 and the 2017 haul in White/Dawkins/Milano (because he wasn't here and it wasn't his draft), where are the superstars and good to great players he's drafted? (again not FA players).

 

I'm willing to give him Ed Oliver even though he's a late bloomer. Wyatt Teller counts even though he pretty much admitted he didn't think he was that type of player and why he was traded.

 

But when you look at the rest of this roster and the core players they are mostly FA signings and trades (Miller/Poyer/Hyde/Morse/etc). Most posters on this board could make those type of moves if given the money and resources of an NFL front office. Again boils down to drafting and fact say Beane hasn't been very good at that outside of a few key guys like JA17. Maybe he gets better some day but the body of work in 5 full drafts from 2018-2022 tell me otherwise.

[KHAN]

[FilthyBeast]

6 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

7/10 highest cap hits on the Bills as we speak today are players drafted by this regime. Allen, White, Edmunds, Dawkins, Oliver, Milano and Johnson. 

 

The 3 who weren't draft picks are Diggs, Morse and Poyer... 

 

What are you talking about?

 

Again Beane didn't draft White, Dawkins or Edmunds.

 

If you want to credit McD for that great but that's always been a very misleading claim validated by Doug Whaley who did draft them and did all the legwork.